Is Iraq ready for Democracy?

[Bodacious]

so that covers that, next

What is the motive behind the terrorist killing of civillians in Iraq today? Because the civillians side with the coalition, correct? Becasuse the civillians want a democratic Iraq, correct? The people who have risen up against the occupation are killing civillians and military targets alike. Why do you think voters were targetted in the election?

Because the "insurgents" and "freedom fighters" target civillians they can never be minute men, they are terrorists.

 

[CptStern]

What is the motive behind the terrorist killing of civillians in Iraq today? Because the civillians side with the coalition, correct? Becasuse the civillians want a democratic Iraq, correct? The people who have risen up against the occupation are killing civillians and military targets alike. Why do you think voters were targetted in the election?
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I dont know ..is it because they're crazy? is it because they're fanatics? is it because they dont care about iraq or it's people ...ya that's probably right ..crazy fanatics who care little about the people of iraq


so if a country invaded the US would you be an insurgent or a terrorist? bet you the foreign occupier would have a vested interest in calling you a terrorist regardless of how you see yourself

 

[Bodacious]

I dont know ..is it because they're crazy? is it because they're fanatics? is it because they dont care about iraq or it's people ...ya that's probably right ..crazy fanatics who care little about the people of iraq

Is that what you really think or are you being sarcastic?

If you haven't noticed the terrorists don't care about the people, they care about themselves. That is why their leaders built palaces instead of helping the populace.

Here is a Zarqawi quote, can effectivly be called the leader of the "insurgency."

"We have declared a fierce war on this evil principle of democracy and those who follow this wrong ideology,” “Anyone who tries to help set up this system is part of it” - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, 1/22/

 

[CptStern]

Is that what you really think or are you being sarcastic?

If you haven't noticed the terrorists don't care about the people, they care about themselves.

you're not serious are you? of course I wasnt being sarcastic! who in their right mind would support terrorism?

 

[Bodacious]

I didn't say you supported terrorism. I was curious if you really think the people blowing up civillians are "crazy" and they have no motive behind their attacks with the only reason behind ther killing is thei lunacy.

 

[UltraProAnti]

A better question would be: is America ready for democracy? I mean, a democracy that isn't simply choosing between two factions of the same elite.

 

[burner69]

What is the motive behind the terrorist killing of civillians in Iraq today? 1. Because the civillians side with the coalition, correct? 2. Becasuse the civillians want a democratic Iraq, correct? The people who have risen up against the occupation are killing civillians and military targets alike. Why do you think voters were targetted in the election?

Because the "insurgents" and "freedom fighters" target civillians they can never be minute men, they are terrorists.

1. Correct.
2. Correct, but only the tip of the iceberg. They're targetting these people because they're siding with the west, yes that's the same west that's f**ked them over good many times in the past, and goes against pretty much all their teaching.

I'm curious, if Saddam did have a huge powerful army and invaded the US, overthrew Bush, took control, what would you do? Would you fight him, or side with him? And if you fought him, which I know I would, would you rather be called a terrorist or an insurgant?

Terrorist

adj : characteristic of someone who employs terrorism (especially as a political weapon); "terrorist activity"; "terrorist state" n : a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities

Americas War on Terror

A system used by the Bush administration within the US who uses tactics of war that breach international law, and employ scare tactics (often as a political weapon) to dumb down the population and recieve unquestioning patriotic support. "Bush"; "Bush administration" a radical who employs terror as a political weapon, usually attempting to orangise with other's in other countries, most who ignore him; often using religion as a cover for illegal combat activities.

 

[Bodacious]

1. Correct.
2. Correct, but only the tip of the iceberg. They're targetting these people because they're siding with the west, yes that's the same west that's f**ked them over good many times in the past, and goes against pretty much all their teaching.

So it is ok to kill civillians as long as they side with the enemy? Is that what you are saying here? If not, then what?

I'm sorry it doesn't work like that. The tories(people who sided with the british) of America's revolution weren't murdered for their beliefs.

I'm curious, if Saddam did have a huge powerful army and invaded the US, overthrew Bush, took control, what would you do? Would you fight him, or side with him? And if you fought him, which I know I would, would you rather be called a terrorist or an insurgant?

I am not going to blow up civiliians with a car bomb. I am going to put a uniform on and fight under a flag.


This is the DoD's definition of terrorism:

"the unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a revolutionary organization against individuals or property, with the intention of coercing or intimidating governments or societies, often for political or ideological purposes."

As far as what goes on over there, and because out military is the body enforcing laws, that definition is the one that matters.

Blowing up unarmed civillians isn't something a "minute man would do."

 

[CptStern]

Blowing up unarmed civillians isn't something a "minute man would do."

you dont know what americans are capable of ...waco, timothy mc veigh, unibomber etc proves that some americans are more than capable of acts of terror ..and if your government can wash their hands of 500,000 dead children then I dont see how you can say that the remaining government wouldnt resort to acts of terror to achieve it's ends ...just look at kent state massacres, the government had no problem shooting innocent american civilians when it suited them

 

[satch919]

I am not going to blow up civiliians with a car bomb. I am going to put a uniform on and fight under a flag.

Neither would I. But the truth is, neither of us knows how we would handle a situation like that.(America being occupied)

And about fighting with a uniform and flag. The reason why the insurgents fight without uniforms is because they're going up against us. Would you want yourself to be noticable or would you dress in civilian clothes so that you could easily blend back into society? If America had been overrun, I'd dress like a civilian and try to pick off as many occupiers as possible without being noticed. Going head on with a more superior army would be stupid.

So, the insurgents know we're superior to anything that they could throw at us. Thats why they use the tactics that they do.

 

[Tr0n]

A better question would be: is America ready for democracy? I mean, a democracy that isn't simply choosing between two factions of the same elite.

Thats a question that will never be answered.