Mistakes In Hl2!!!

XJR · Apr 13, 2004

I've spotted a few mistakes in hl2 checks the pics

ray_MAN · Apr 13, 2004

Yeah, I showed these back in September. Not very big.

PvtRyan · Apr 13, 2004

Dude.... just some clipping bugs, hardly worth starting a thread for..

[sl@yer] · Apr 13, 2004

The cable in the second pic is going into the clouds i think....so not really a mistake.

Varsity · Apr 13, 2004

Niether are mistakes. The first screen has clipping because calulating where a ragdoll model is to prevent anything going through it takes up too much system resources, and the second because of the 'blind spot' created by the sun flare.

Axyon · Apr 13, 2004

Varsity said:
Niether are mistakes. The first screen has clipping because calulating where a ragdoll model is to prevent anything going through it takes up too much system resources, and the second because of the 'blind spot' created by the sun flare.

This is true, but the other mistake in that picture is the fact that the HK Mp7 (or Mp5, as that was the placeholder then) doesn't have a shadow... I would expect it's probably fixed though.

Brian Damage · Apr 13, 2004

Varsity said:
Niether are mistakes. The first screen has clipping because calulating where a ragdoll model is to prevent anything going through it takes up too much system resources, and the second because of the 'blind spot' created by the sun flare.

Actually, Gabe Newell's indicated that the clipping problem's been fixed ("Interpenetration is a bad thing"...). If it does turn out to be a system hog, and since it's probably just an "Icing On The Cake" sort of thing, maybe they'll have an option in the menu to toggle it...?

ray_MAN · Apr 13, 2004

Abom said:
This is true, but the other mistake in that picture is the fact that the HK Mp7 (or Mp5, as that was the placeholder then) doesn't have a shadow.

He pointed that out.

Varsity · Apr 13, 2004

ray_MAN said:
He pointed that out.

No I didn't.

Axyon · Apr 13, 2004

ray_MAN said:
He pointed that out.

No he didn't.

ray_MAN · Apr 13, 2004

But but but but but the arrow is pointing to the shadow. (or lack of)

EDIT: Oh, we are talking about Varsity. I thought we were talking about XJR. :stare:

Axyon · Apr 13, 2004

ray_MAN said:
But but but but but the arrow is pointing to the shadow. (or lack of)

Yeah, but I was talking to Varsity.

torso boy · Apr 13, 2004

wow like i care, the screens are almost a year and a half old, and anyway, why don't you try to make a 3d engine as good as source

ray_MAN · Apr 13, 2004

No need to come down hard on the guy. Damn! My avatar doesn't work. I can't make .gifs in Paint! ;(

CrazyHarij · Apr 13, 2004

Geesh. Do you remember that guy on City-17 who scanned all binkvids and then put together all flaws he detected in an article? Like "Here's why HL2 will get 99% in the reviews instead of 100%"

PvtRyan · Apr 13, 2004

I think I will cry myself to sleep tonight now I know there's no weapon shadow in the screenshot... ;(

ray_MAN · Apr 13, 2004

CrazyHarij said:
Geesh. Do you remember that guy on City-17 who scanned all binkvids and then put together all flaws he detected in an article? Like "Here's why HL2 will get 99% in the reviews instead of 100%"

Yeah, those were the days. I think that was before I joined though, but I still saw it. It made me laugh.

:dork: :sniper:

Brian Damage · Apr 13, 2004

Linky linky?

Shuzer · Apr 13, 2004

Brian Damage said:
Linky linky?

city17.net shut down awhile ago

Brian Damage · Apr 13, 2004

Poopsticks.

alehm · Apr 13, 2004

For real.
You can go fire up Half Life and find flaws in the game. That didn't stop it from earning over 50 Game of the Year awards.

FictiousWill · Apr 13, 2004

AAAAAA! Clipping =/= interpenetration! Z-buffering is working fine. I wrote a rant about this 6 months ago when these pictures were combed over, but I'm too tired. My reaction to the thread: um.. duh.

Top Secret · Apr 13, 2004

Niether are mistakes. The first screen has clipping because calulating where a ragdoll model is to prevent anything going through it takes up too much system resources, and the second because of the 'blind spot' created by the sun flare.

Far Cry does that just fine. I just don't think Havok comes with the coding for Ragdoll's to affect eachother physically. Though I'm sure it's probably a simple value change of 0 to 1.

Sai · Apr 13, 2004

i haven't touched far cry, does it have rag doll implemented very well?

Glo-Boy · Apr 13, 2004

Not in the demo. It's like they're half way to rigor mortis.

FictiousWill · Apr 13, 2004

They do in FarCry, it's just that people don't flail in the air when you shoot them in the foot. I was ambivalent about it. I like seeing ragdolls ragdoll, but for some reason shooting someone and just seeing them fall with a very heavy-looking flop/clump is satisfactory as well.

Reven · Apr 13, 2004

torso boy said:
wow like i care, the screens are almost a year and a half old, and anyway, why don't you try to make a 3d engine as good as source

sorta hard isnt it? hes just saying errors, he isnt saying any thing agenst source :cheers:

el Chi · Apr 14, 2004

Abom said:
Yeah, but I was talking to Varsity.

Ah isn't it nice to be back to the same old semi-chaos and confuzzlement?

FictiousWill said:
They do in FarCry, it's just that people don't flail in the air when you shoot them in the foot. I was ambivalent about it. I like seeing ragdolls ragdoll, but for some reason shooting someone and just seeing them fall with a very heavy-looking flop/clump is satisfactory as well.

Yeah I know what you mean - sometimes ragdoll effects can be ridiculously sensetive. I seem to remember it being possible (ammo and bullet-time willing) to practically juggle corpses in the air with bullets. Sometimes it just seems a bit over-the-top. I always though that in the barricade vid, when the dude falls from the watch-tower that he flails far too much. But then what does it matter? Tiny point.

dream431ca · Apr 14, 2004

You must remember, these are EARLY screenshots.

Styloid · Apr 14, 2004

I'm surprised he didn't bring up the wrong direction shadows in the other old shot...

XenoSpirit · Apr 14, 2004

XJR said:
I've spotted a few mistakes in hl2 checks the pics

this is probly anuther photoshop junkie

iamaelephant · Apr 14, 2004

Far Cry's physics are many times better than Max Payne 2, where, as stated earlier, you could literally juggle bodies in the air. Far Cry's physics are actually quite realistic, and have no problems making ragdolls interact with each other.

Rupertvdb · Apr 14, 2004

i don't think it's particularly fair to claim there are mistakes in HL2 on the basis of screenshots released of a halfmade game that hadn' been play tested or even had textures in some of the shots. They shall fix it...chill

Ezboy04 · Apr 14, 2004

Who cares ,, well maybe u but as long as the game is fun to play .

Letters · Apr 14, 2004

Ezboy04 said:
Who cares ,, well maybe u but as long as the game is fun to play .

I couldn't have said it better.

figge · Apr 14, 2004

TrinityXero said:
this is probly anuther photoshop junkie

or not...

...but all i have to say is... O L D :farmer:

Mr.Magnetichead · Apr 14, 2004

Sigh.

So many retards on this forum.

/shakes head.

Shuzer · Apr 14, 2004

Mr.Magnetichead said:
Sigh.

So many retards on this forum.

/shakes head.

Irony at its finest.

Mr.Magnetichead · Apr 14, 2004

Shuzer said:
Irony at its finest.

Incorrect.

Rupertvdb · Apr 14, 2004

:flame:

However...when this PC Gamer magazine comes out feel free to rip to shreds the pictures (if there are new ones) for mistakes because things are getting close

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