We have Einsteins DNA right?....

[BabyHeadCrab]

Well cloning him would certainly be interesting. To see if biologically his DNA cause a mutation or defect that made him develope into the theoretical mathmatical genious he became. Einstien's life no doubt was half of why he become the spunky down to earth guy he was, but to be able to accomplish what he did almost seems sub-human. If we were to observe and study closely a clone of him while at the same time letting him live his life a he wishes after awhile we might learn alot on what exactly the biological secret ( if they're was one) was behind einstien. By "he" I mean the Einstien clone.

 

[gh0st]

just because he has the same dna doesnt mean he will look the same, or act the same, or be nearly as smart. this has been proven by cloning animals. i dont think there was anything special about einstein, just thought "outside" the box.

 

[f|uke]

just because he has the same dna doesnt mean he will look the same, or act the same, or be nearly as smart. this has been proven by cloning animals. i dont think there was anything special about einstein, just thought "outside" the box.

No, that has not been proven. There are issues that were overlooked in preliminary experiments. This is why Dolly was born old. There is a cloned kitten called CC however that is a perfect copy of its source.

If you have a perfect clone, of course he will look the same and have the same mental capabilities. Haven't you ever heard of identical twins? DNA is an exact map, not a general guidline.

Do we really have Einsteins DNA? Theres no way on earth human cloning would be allowed in the USA (with all its moral/ethical/religious implications), but maybe somebody could do it somewhere else. That would be awsome. Imagine being Einsteins clone,. instant celebrity, and impossible expectations..

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

just because he has the same dna doesnt mean he will look the same, or act the same, or be nearly as smart. this has been proven by cloning animals. i dont think there was anything special about einstein, just thought "outside" the box.

DNA contains more data then people usually think, thought patterns, emmotional and social behaviors and alot more are contained in those Acid coils.

 

[gh0st]

Correct, Dolly's cloning method was declared imperfection. If givin the Jurastiction i'm sure healthy human clone could be done and observed and give an invaluable amount to science.

assuming it had einsteins base intelligence, it would still need the same experience and upbringing in order to mature it. if you had him watching tv all the time, that intellect wouldent mature. many things went into making einsteins theories, not all of them are intelligence. heh, do some research on him, if you clone him you wont get "another einstein."

oh - and none of you know how intelligence would be passed to begin with, especially with humans. maybe cloning works fine on sheep and tadpoles, who dont require the mental facilities we do, but no one knows how a clone would mature or develop until we actually clone one.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

assuming it had einsteins base intelligence, it would still need the same experience and upbringing in order to mature it. if you had him watching tv all the time, that intellect wouldent mature. many things went into making einsteins theories, not all of them are intelligence. heh, do some research on him, if you clone him you wont get "another einstein."

Well I think just place him in a academic suburban enviorment, with education on his... "fathers" already discovered theories he could take it a step further. But it might do a number on the poor childs head. But maybe he could find a way to correct to the problems his "father" created and make anti matter bombs that eliminate the radiation that spreads miles killing off future generations of children still in nagasaki and heroshima. etc. gh0st your point is quite valid, clones do not mean they are the SAME person, upbringing and enviormental change are extremely important things in the development of an organisms behavior. But you would think he would realize his talent and gift he was given in methods he picked up biologically and harness them at some point.

 

[gh0st]

But you would think he would realize his talent and gift he was given in methods he picked up biologically and harness them at some point.

theres nothing to lead to that conclusion, i dont believe einstein had some kind of uber brain, he just put the brain he had to extraordinary work. you could say lance armstrong has evolved physiologically but he just worked hard in his particular field.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

theres nothing to lead to that conclusion, i dont believe einstein had some kind of uber brain, he just put the brain he had to extraordinary work. you could say lance armstrong has evolved physiologically but he just worked hard in his particular field.

It's a theory, it could be hypothesized is all i'm stating. If you wanted to see if his brains biological structure was some kind-of unique mutation that caused his increased ability to theorize mathmatical issues. Also Lance armstrong is an athelete im talking about the possibility of DNA containing instructions to create brains capable of takeing in incrased mathmatical knowledge then most supercomputers (einstien). It is also important to note people have dedicated they're entire lives to theyre passion/field and accomplished nothing really besides reiterations of aquired knowledge, I do believe Einstien had something special biologically abnormal in him that enabled him to develope his super-human equational mind.

 

[Neutrino]

I think they should try to find some DNA from Jesus and clone him.

Wouldn't that bring some interesting consequences.

 

[gh0st]

It's a theory, it could be hypothesized is all i'm stating.

why hypothesize if theres no indication your hypothesis would be right. there are alot of men more brilliant than einstein, why not 'clone' them? why not clone ghandi, oppenheimer, or shakespeare (im sure some dna could be found from him and many others.) newton? plato? theres a ton of people who were equally of not more brilliant than einstein, why choose him? he's not unusual, just a great thinker of our time the same way these people were. every once and awhile these people arise.

edit: and i was comparing armstrong evolving physiologically to to einstein evolving (which IS what you're suggesting) mentally.

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

why hypothesize if theres no indication your hypothesis would be right. there are alot of men more brilliant than einstein, why not 'clone' them? why not clone ghandi, oppenheimer, or shakespeare (im sure some dna could be found from him and many others.) newton? plato? theres a ton of people who were equally of not more brilliant than einstein, why choose him? he's not unusual, just a great thinker of our time the same way these people were. every once and awhile these people arise.

edit: and i was comparing armstrong evolving physiologically to to einstein evolving (which IS what you're suggesting) mentally.

Einstein is reconized as a RECENT hero to many, more motivation and attention hence more money and power to the researchers. But if we could find in-tact dna for any of those people (none of which I think we have) then that would probably be even cooler then cloning einstien. Seems as if we agree on most of these things, no need to argue

 

[The Monkey]

We can't clone humans...yet, and in that case, wht not clone Mozart? And I bet some people would like to clone Adolf Hitler too.

 

[Phisionary]

I saw a show that indicated there was a physiological reasons that contributed to Einsteins abilities to develop his theories of the mechanics of physics and the universe. It's a part of the brain called the *quick google* corpus callosum. It's a mass of tissue, i believe toward the very back of your skull, and functions as the bridge between left and right hemispheres of the brain.

Now, the roles popularily assigned to the different hemispheres aren't so cut and dries as some think, bu there is a lot to it still. One side functions largely in analysis and logic and reasoning, problem solving. The other is involved in creative aspects like invinting new concepts, and artistic endevours such as music, visual arts, poetry, etc.

The suggestion of this program was that Einsteins corpus callosum (about 40-50% bigger than an average persons, IIRC) allowed him to apply a greater amount of his creative capacity to the physics concepts that his reasoning side was capable of comprehending. Thi may have assisted his development of physics theories that were so incredibly advanced...

Some people say that only a handful of people are capable of fully understanding the physics of Einsteins general relativity theory. Many may use the tenets of that theory to advance their own physics, but he was a very advanced thinker, no denying.

Just an, um, FYI i guess.