Doom 3 Multiplayer

I still hold hight hopes for mods, especially since I've never really been a desperate DM fan anyway. I can't imagine what good modders can get out of that engine.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
Well it looks like this game will die. I mean lets face it, how many games last without decent multiplayer? I'm sure some people will mod for it, but if the multiplayer is dire to begin with, it will turn a lot of people off. Ok, nice graphics anda good singleplayer will keep people going for a bit, but when there are a plethora of just as good looking games around the corner, this isn't going to last.

I know I do it often but, Im gonna have to bring up "Clive Barker's Undying"
that was a totally fantastic kick ass game, but due to no multiplayer (when multiplayer was BIG, with games like Unreal tourney and Quake 3 arena)
it pretty much fizzled.

games with no MP dive, because there is no re-playability
I so wish that Undying had done better in terms of sales.. because I really wanted to see the sequel they had planned.. and then canceled due to crappy sales.

and the crappy sales figures were probably from people downloading the game, and not buying it because it lacked MP.


lucky however in Doom3's case, the game has netcode and can be played MP, and modded.

with games like Undying and Max Payne1/2 that was not the case.
 
Well Undying also wasn' a blockbuster kinda game either. Lets face it: most casual gamers play little MP. And DOOMIII is going to draw in a ton of those people who will never even try to play online.
DOOM was plenty popular without its MP for the number of people it drew in. The MP just served to vault it to legendary status within the gamer community.
 
But Max Payne 1/2 is impossible in multiplayer without taking away the bullet time, and bullet time is Max Payne so they are stuck there and for those people still screaming that bullet time is possible, learn elementary relativity!!!!! :)
 
I've heard of online games doing "localized" bullet time, so that it doesn't slow down the entire server.
 
The Specialists do it just fine, so it's not impossible.
 
That still doesn't work, since the people outside the zone must experience a very low mouse sensativity compared to the people inside the bullet time zone for it to work, and besides that isn't bullet time: time doens't slow down, just the mouse sensetivity goes down. But back to Doom 3. Multiplayer bad, hopefully later good :).

[EDIT]: Plus MP2 has an unbelievable SP (especially the voice acting).
 
But undying and Max Payne 1 & 2 weren't anything special - they were just ok games.

Doom 3 looks to be on a different level - and will sell shed loads. It's a whole different ball game.
 
Gorgon said:
Fuk u asshole (The thread starter).

Put it like this: Your opinion vs 1000,000,0 fans supporting Doom3 mp + its mods.

So basically STFU plz :)
What he said.


I'm not expecting a lot from the MP, but I am expecting it to work... I want to be able to create new maps for its deathmatch, not fix their damn code as well. :rolleyes:
 
Warbie said:
But undying and Max Payne 1 & 2 weren't anything special - they were just ok games.

Doom 3 looks to be on a different level - and will sell shed loads. It's a whole different ball game.

Doom 3 is on another level because of the huge fan base pushing the hype (just like HL2), but Max Payne still made quite a lot of commotion with it's great bullet time; I personally couldn't get enough of it at the time.
 
I'm currently loving Max Payne 2 :)

I love those games, nothing can match the thrill I've got from them :)

And people, just wait for the full version.
 
lazicsavo said:
That still doesn't work, since the people outside the zone must experience a very low mouse sensativity compared to the people inside the bullet time zone for it to work, and besides that isn't bullet time: time doens't slow down, just the mouse sensetivity goes down. But back to Doom 3. Multiplayer bad, hopefully later good :).

[EDIT]: Plus MP2 has an unbelievable SP (especially the voice acting).

have you ever played the specialist mod for half-life?
I'm not quite sure how the bullet time works, but it does.
 
Gorgon said:
Fuk u asshole (The thread starter).

Put it like this: Your opinion vs 1000,000,0 fans supporting Doom3 mp + its mods.

So basically STFU plz :)

What Gorgon said X 1,000,000

And

Quoted for emphasis
 
Weird how no one else has complained of all those problems. And if everyone was having them, you can be damn sure it'd be mentioned on alot of other forums by now. I've heard nothing but praise for the mp so far.
 
Soundwave said:
Weird how no one else has complained of all those problems. And if everyone was having them, you can be damn sure it'd be mentioned on alot of other forums by now. I've heard nothing but praise for the mp so far.

Same Here. Here are several reasons for his complaining

1) Doom 3 is not Battlefield 1942
2) Doom 3 is not CS
3) Can't kill anyone because of the PPHD
4) Likes to complain
5) Can not grasp the concept of 4 person multiplayer
6) Thinks turning off all the lights in a level would be great multiplay.
7) He thinks warezing Doom 3 gives him the right to complain.
 
blahblahblah said:
6) Thinks turning off all the lights in a level would be great multiplay.

I'll admit, I'm guilty of that thought as well. Actually from what I hear, in one of the maps you can do something pretty close to that.
 
For those people that want great great great Doom 3 graphics multiplayer, wait for Quake, Doom 3 is for the SP guy (me!!!) :)
 
wow. the first person i have seen to dislike Doom3. And its cause of the MP which wasn't even supposed to be included.

ITS A SP GAME> jesus, gaming newbies never learn. its oldschool DM put it for oldschool fans. Stop whinning.

oh and COOP MOD will rock. i have seen videos of the coop mod, its amazing. this coop will be sweet. but its A SP GAME
 
Great engine, not so great (IMO) game. Where have I seen this before?
 
have you played it varsity? most people i talk to who have played it say its amazing.
 
My friend played the mp last night, he goes its awsome. he was playing on FutureMarkUnofficial Server #1 & #2

Everyone seems happy with the mp so far. :)
 
yeah everyone i heard play the game sayd it was awesome, maybe the guy was playing the leak or something, or maybe hes just an idiot. Also ive seen some vids of coop and it looks awesome
 
i hate to say it but c'mon, this is Carmack, he doesn't even have to try to make a decent MP. Carmack is a one man coding steam engine, i highly doubt the MP sucks. i garantee you it better then Painkillers miserable failure of an MP. plus with the co-op mod that will be out not to far in the future and a few mods. i think the topic maker is just an overacting HL2 fanboy who got his ass handed to him in a few D3 MP matches then came on here to rant about it to make him not feel so pathetically insecure.
 
NeoGlyphix said:
THE HL2 LEAK IS MORE STABLE THAN THIS GAME! ID SCREWED UP BIG TIME JESUS CHRIST.

List of problems:
-Only some lights can be broken.
-Some lights dont shut off.
-Blood sprites only work sometimes.
-Configs dont save.
-Almost anything will crash this sad excuse for a multiplayer game.
-You need a x800XT PLATNIUM NUKKA™ OR ELSE THE MULTI GIVES YOU LIKE 1 FPS WOW.
-Apparently if there are too many players named player, it crashes the server.
-There is no favorites list.
-Lan is busted and runs like shit.
-They left like everything up for the people to mod in everything.
-THERE IS ONLY 5 SKINS, ****ING 5 PEOPLE AND THEY ARE JUST VARIATIONS OF THE SAME MODEL, JUST COLORS!
-THERE IS NO OPTION TO TURN OF THE GAY MUSIC.
-THERE ARE 5 MAPS AND 3 GAME MODES, WOW GOTY!!!!
-The gun sounds suck.
-The flashlight/fists are the best weapon and do more damage than almost all the other weapons.
-The rocket splash damage is a piece of crap, like 1 dmg.
-If you strafe you fly like 50ft to the side.
-Players move way too fast.
-All the multiplayer sounds are ripped straight from quake3, even the ****ing UI.
-The editor opens in a screwed up resolution.
-To change the config of game and have it save you have to make a brand new cfg and make it exec on startup.

Most of that stuff is based on personal taste, not bugs or stability. Oh... and if you're getting 1 FPS, it sounds to me you're just mad that you have a crappy computer.
 
let's juts hope D3 doesn't tack on punkbuster. PB has a way of ruining MP for me.
On FarCry, PB is so buggy the game is unplayable.
Then, in one fell swoop, they ruined my two favorite game MP, Call of Duty and Enemy Territory. What they did was required you to have administrator privileges to play. I didn't and so i could only play on about two percent of the servers. This pissed me of to no end, as i had payed 40 bucks for COD, and they just ruined it. But, the next day i managed to sell my soul to get my mom to give me administrator privileges. But now I thoroughly hate PB, and think it should burn in hell.
 
Well i just hope they find some solution to Anti-cheat. One thing i will say to NeoGlyphz is just be happy you got it early i mean some of us still have to wait for it, so dont complain.
 
Punkbuster worked real well in ET and RTCW - I don't see what thw problem is. Far Cry was just shite online period, with or without punkbuster.
 
Varsity said:
Great engine, not so great (IMO) game. Where have I seen this before?


Doom 3 has many similarities of Half-Life..We have a guy who are like the Gman. Those Medic things on the walls looks and works just like in HL. Some of the missions\areas are\look like HL etc..there is really nothing new to the SP..it has all been done before..great engine as you said nothing more.
 
h00dlum said:
Doom 3 has many similarities of Half-Life..We have a guy who are like the Gman. Those Medic things on the walls looks and works just like in HL. Some of the missions\areas are\look like HL etc..there is really nothing new to the SP..it has all been done before..great engine as you said nothing more.
actually, i believe he's talking about unreal2 :p





spiral architect - black sabbath
 
crushenator 500 said:
actually, i believe he's talking about unreal2 :p





spiral architect - black sabbath


lol i just realized what he meant..*feels dumb*
 
h00dlum said:
Doom 3 has many similarities of Half-Life..We have a guy who are like the Gman. Those Medic things on the walls looks and works just like in HL. Some of the missions\areas are\look like HL etc..there is really nothing new to the SP..it has all been done before..great engine as you said nothing more.

you need the sh!t slapped out of you for this beyond ghey post. there is no one in Doom 3 that is like Gman, besides the evil scientist, Gman isn't evil nore is he a scientist. HL2.net discuss me, to many HL2 fanboys with there heads shoved up VALVe's ass

"OMGWTF 1ts n0t Hl2 1ts t3h sux0rzzz l0l0l0loloololololzzz!!! d00m 3 1s t3h pwn3d by t3h HL2 lolololzzz.
 
OOOOOK....thank you for that informative post.
Anywho, the story for HL was very similar to a retelling of the original DOOM plot, albeit in a different way, so the similarities are normal.
 
Pitbul said:
you need the sh!t slapped out of you for this beyond ghey post. there is no one in Doom 3 that is like Gman, besides the evil scientist, Gman isn't evil nore is he a scientist. HL2.net discuss me, to many HL2 fanboys with there heads shoved up VALVe's ass

"OMGWTF 1ts n0t Hl2 1ts t3h sux0rzzz l0l0l0loloololololzzz!!! d00m 3 1s t3h pwn3d by t3h HL2 lolololzzz.


ye that evil scientist makes me think of gman so what?
 
Agree that Doom3 is NOT a multi-player game and doesn't seem as moddable as, say, HL or UT.
But then, why did they even try?? If they're gonna do something, they may as well have done it right and done it well. They had no "budget constraints" or "time conflicts", so they have no excuse.
 
Subz said:
have you played it varsity? most people i talk to who have played it say its amazing.
Most people I talk to say the opposite. Coupled with the gameplay videos I'm underwhelmed.
 
i've read in a few forums that the mp is proper good.....i'll make up me own mind when i get me hands on it
 
For all those who will proberly find the game to hard here's a set of cheats to make it more easier on your brain.

Bring the console up with [~] and type the following codes in.

aviDemo = Saves a demo of your playing to an AVI movie file
benchmark = Game Benchmark
doomhell = Skip all levels to last
freeze = Freeze all on screen
gfxinfo = Graphicscard infomation
god = God mode
noclip = No Clip
notarget = Invisibility to most enemies
com_drawfps 1 = Show FPS
give all = Full load of weapons and ammo
give doom95 = Load the '95 version of Doom
give keys = Acquire all the keys you'll ever need
give weapon_machinegun = Machinegun
give weapon_shotgun = Shotgun
give weapon_plasmagun = Plasmagun
give weapon_bfg = BFG
give weapon_chainsaw = Chainsaw
give weapon_rocketlauncher = Rocket Launcher
status = Your game status
quit = Quid aka Exit

http://discuss.futuremark.com/forum/showflat.pl?Board=gaminggeneral&Number=4169371

How To Run Doom 3 on Windows Server 2003,98:
http://www.flexbeta.net/main/comments.php?catid=1&shownews=8506
 
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