An interesting question.

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So I just played through the pOrtal story mode for the 7th or so time. I was at this point in Level 14 maybe, and I tried to shoot a blue portal "beam" through an existing set of portals (knowing full well that it doesn't work) and of course it didn't work, no surprise. So why the hell can't we shoot portal "beams" through portals? You can put anything and everything through portals including yourself, so why not portal "beams"? It SHOULD work.
 
I'm guessing also engine limitations. Bullets will only travel through one portal; they hit wall behind the second portal when you're aiming inside a loop.
 
Because the Portal 'beams' do not react to portal energy like simply chunks of metal like bullets. They look for restrictions, barriers, walls, and dissipate in an attept to place a portal at the location of it's target barrier.


Hey, if this game made complete logical sence and could be rationally explained, we would have portal guns in real life.
 
The reason is simple: you can only have two portals existing at one time.

If you only have a blue portal, on a wall for example, it's closed. You have to fire an orange portal for them both to open and a connection between both is established.

If you have two portals active, as soon as you fire a new portal (blue or orange) it immediately overrides the original.

Make sense? No? Too bad.
 
In Narbacular Drop, the game that Portal was based on, you could fire portals through portals, but I like the explanation by Cormeh as to why this doesn't work.
 
Alexander_Q said:
In Narbacular Drop, the game that Portal was based on, you could fire portals through portals.
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Being able to do this would make for some very interesting puzzles. I'm trying to think about how this would affect the current Portal levels. Could be an interesting feature or gun upgrade. I wonder how much it would be worth then?! :thumbs:
 
Cormeh said:
The reason is simple: you can only have two portals existing at one time.

If you only have a blue portal, on a wall for example, it's closed. You have to fire an orange portal for them both to open and a connection between both is established.

If you have two portals active, as soon as you fire a new portal (blue or orange) it immediately overrides the original.

Make sense? No? Too bad.
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As a mater of fact you are wrong, a portal does NOT manifest until it stikes a surface, the other portal does NOT disappear until another manifests. The portals don't disappear as soon as you fire it, only if it hit a surface that it can manifest on and then only AFTER it hits the surface. get it? no? too bad, dur dur

Turret said:
Being able to do this would make for some very interesting puzzles. I'm trying to think about how this would affect the current Portal levels. Could be an interesting feature or gun upgrade. I wonder how much it would be worth then?! :thumbs:
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Hey good thinking, at least one person understands what I'm talking about.

Cormeh, why the hostility?

RNEvermore said:
Because the Portal 'beams' do not react to portal energy like simply chunks of metal like bullets. They look for restrictions, barriers, walls, and dissipate in an attept to place a portal at the location of it's target barrier.


Hey, if this game made complete logical sence and could be rationally explained, we would have portal guns in real life.
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That is a good explanation, I am curious if anyone knows if it was a developer decision or do you think it was maybe overlooked by devs?
 
RNEvermore said:
Because the Portal 'beams' do not react to portal energy like simply chunks of metal like bullets. They look for restrictions, barriers, walls, and dissipate in an attept to place a portal at the location of it's target barrier.


Hey, if this game made complete logical sence and could be rationally explained, we would have portal guns in real life.
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So why, in some areas, can you place a blue portal directly over an orange portal essentially creating a mirror?
 
Tyler Durden, why the quad post?


And you can't do this because Valve didn't want you to.
 
wtf. Quad post? Forum noob. =/

And I don't question the game. I just beat it and dance along to the awesome ending song. =)
 
I like to think that the Portal Gun is unable to shoot through or create portals on certain "unstable" things such as non-flat surfaces, the "emancipation grids", glass, etc. And the portals themselves are just another one of those things.

And in Narbacular Drop, much of the game became much easier because of your ability to shot through portals.
 
tetsuo2040 said:
wtf. Quad post? Forum noob. =/

And I don't question the game. I just beat it and dance along to the awesome ending song. =)
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Forum noob?, OMG you are the 1337est forum uber user EvAR, teach me the ways. Quad post wtf difference does it make? Ill make a triple-quintuple post if I feel like it.
This place is about as bad as BF2s.com was in its hayday
 
If you make a triple-quituple post, you will get banned. So stop being such a ****tard.
Use the edit button.
 
I had four separate things to say, and three people to quote. Four posts were necessary.
 
Tyler Durden said:
Quad post wtf difference does it make?
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It is forum etiquette, people expect the next post to be by a different person and don't always read the posters name - multiple posts by the same person in a row can screw with how you read the thread.

Ill make a triple-quintuple post if I feel like it.
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And the mods will give you infractions for it.

Tyler Durden said:
I had four separate things to say, and three people to quote. Four posts were necessary.
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Then use multi-quote - like I just did wow I'm soo 1337! :rolleyes:
 
Hey, dudes, at least he can spell.

(And at least he's not Saturos. Boy, that guy is annoying. :/)
 
Tyler Durden said:
As a mater of fact you are wrong, a portal does NOT manifest until it stikes a surface, the other portal does NOT disappear until another manifests. The portals don't disappear as soon as you fire it, only if it hit a surface that it can manifest on and then only AFTER it hits the surface. get it? no? too bad, dur dur
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And what exactly is the portal hitting? A surface. So it overrides the previous portal.

The point is two of the same colour can't exist. So if you fire any colour portal at any existing portal, it's only registering the surface and not the openly connected portals.
 
Tyler Durden said:
Forum noob?, OMG you are the 1337est forum uber user EvAR, teach me the ways. Quad post wtf difference does it make? Ill make a triple-quintuple post if I feel like it.
This place is about as bad as BF2s.com was in its hayday
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Well, at first we where just screwing with you, but now...we know you're really new at this.
 
and we can keep arguing until we look like elizibeth hurley... it won't get us anywhere. This mudslinging is rediculous and unnessessary.

Tyler, If you want to quote 4 people, you should put it all in one single reply. You can quote 4 different people by using simple forum code:

Note, instead of using round brackets ')(' use square brackets '][' for forum code.

(quote} BLARG (/quote)
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(spoiler) Put a spoiler in this (/spoiler)

and the list goes on.

Multiposting is against the forum rules, so you shouldn't do it... but im pretty sure launching personal insults is against forum rules too... everyone else.

All civility aside....


PENIS!
 
RNEvermore said:
and we can keep arguing until we look like elizibeth hurley... it won't get us anywhere. This mudslinging is rediculous and unnessessary.

Tyler, If you want to quote 4 people, you should put it all in one single reply. You can quote 4 different people by using simple forum code:

Note, instead of using round brackets ')(' use square brackets '][' for forum code.



(spoiler) Put a spoiler in this (/spoiler)

and the list goes on.

Multiposting is against the forum rules, so you shouldn't do it... but im pretty sure launching personal insults is against forum rules too... everyone else.

All civility aside....


PENIS!
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THanks for the info
 
Operational said:
It is forum etiquette, people expect the next post to be by a different person and don't always read the posters name - multiple posts by the same person in a row can screw with how you read the thread.


And the mods will give you infractions for it.


Then use multi-quote - like I just did wow I'm soo 1337! :rolleyes:
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Now that is helpful
 
Yeah... Exposed (or otherwise combined) portal energies will cancel each other out... (my theory)...
 
*looks around*

so...yeah. Portal is a great game


*coughs*


*slowly walks away avoiding all eye contact*
 
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