Breen = Advisor (Possible Spoilers)

Breen's dead.

Reasoning?.

The teleporter and reactor thing blew up in his face, which is pretty compelling.

It wouldn't make sense to keep him around either. He was a puppet, a powerless pointless cronie, he absolutely failed and now theres no reason for a pretend human face of the combine. The humans are in open revolt and no amount of Breencasting(tm) is going to change anything.

He's gone, dead, no more.
 
The issue of host bodies is far too ambiguous to really factor in at the moment, I think. We don't know what they are, what it involves, what conditions they're needed for, et cetera.

The Combine originating from a multitude of species may be a possibility, but I seen no evidence to think such. I firmly believe that the strongest case for the advisors being the original, dominant race is their physical nature. Their grub-like bodies being the result of a lack of physical exertion and dependency on technology. It's a strong indicator of a species that has functioned almost entirely as the intelligence of the Combine, ordering around minions to do their bidding while staying behind the curtain in relative safety. RtB pretty much describes them exactly as such, and I don't think it's a stretch to put two and two together.

If there's any species higher than them in the hierarchy, I can't conceive of any. At least none as appropriate as the advisors.
 
nurizeko said:
The teleporter and reactor thing blew up in his face, which is pretty compelling.
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Same thing happened with Gordon and Alyx, did it not?

Also, just because the Combine might see no further use to him (although that's debatable since they did offer him a host body to survive even when shit hit the fan), that doesn't necessarily mean he's dead. It would just mean he's useless to the Combine.

Now I'll admit here that I'm pretty much operating on faith that Breen's still alive, and also because Valve refuses to come out and confirm he's dead. But it is an appealing thought.
 
I think it's fair to say the Advisors were the original race behind the Combine; at this stage, you have to consider that the Combine itself is an entire mass of annexed, force-evolved races and is referred to by the Overwatch as a single organism. The Advisors started out as a race that achieved technological immortality, at the price of stilting it's own natural evolution. We can clearly see they have become grub-like, and although hugely intelligent they have been consumed by the technology they created to originally improve the quality of their life.

If you look at the Combine as a whole, then you will see this same pattern of forced evolution emerging, and the Advisors represent the beginning of that. Brushing that aside is just being unreasonable for the sake of it.
 
Zombine said:
Then why do they keep bringing him back in ep1 and ep2?
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Don't make shit up. He never once appeared in Episode two. And in episode one he appeared on a moniter. If you are going to argue at least get your facts straight.

Absinthe said:
also because Valve refuses to come out and confirm he's dead.
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Thats the thing I love about valve. They never actually state out in the open.
 
While I admire their secrecy, I will be an unhappy camper if Episode 3 comes and goes and Valve says "lol he's ded".
 
Join the club. It's pointless to string us along...there's really no outcome there other than a bad one if he's dead, and it's not confirmed soon. I'm pretty sure he must be alive, because I mean really, last time they were asked it was "UMM. UMM. NEXT QUESTION."

I assume it's got to do with Black Mesa, the Gman, and the fact that there was still so much Eli had to tell us. If he's alive and perfectly human I really can't wait to see his reaction to what happened to Eli. They were friends, and Breen spent much of his time in that office trying to get Eli on board; he even had trouble sending him "through the far-side of a Combine portal".
 
Same thing happened with Gordon and Alyx, did it not?
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Vortigaunts saved Gordon and Alyx, Breen just got his face blown off.

Still, I respect your opinion and wont tread on your hopes and dreams.

I'll admit the possibility is there.
 
Breen drifted down the chute; he wasn't in the middle of that explosion. Of course, it did take out the entire summit...
 
nurizeko said:
Vortigaunts saved Gordon and Alyx, Breen just got his face blown off.

Still, I respect your opinion and wont tread on your hopes and dreams.

I'll admit the possibility is there.
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I'm just saying. Considering the kind of forces of intervention at work in the HL universe, I'd be a tad skeptical of somebody's apparent death.

Unless, y'know, they go out like Eli does. Don't think there's any way back from brain suckage.
 
i bet episode 3 will start exactly where it left off, with alyx knealing there crying, then time gets paused and another gman speech explaining something
 
Samon said:
I'm pretty sure Breen is not an Advisor.
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And, I'm pretty sure this thread might become closed in a few days due to this:




Point made. Court adjourned.


And no he's not an advisor.
 
Yeh, just a grub being transported by the combine, 'Hello Gordon, remember me....' 'No...I've killed plenty of grubs...' 'AH NO!!!!' squish
 
Nova Prospect blew up in a mini-explosion to that of the city and that the Combine didn't do much about it except abandon it, and that's been the pattern hence forth. But all of the sudden, we launch the missile and cut them off and now their pissed. This is further seen in Breen's prisson cast on how they could have taken Eli any time.

The sudden uproar of Combine reactions and emotions leads me to believe that Breen is a slug, because the aliens never seem to have emotions until he died. Now they're pissed, even though they never seemed as such before.
 
Well, most of my thoughts have been reflected by previous posters, especially Samon..soo my last words are:

Breen is a grub
 
PortalStormzzzz said:
Nova Prospect blew up in a mini-explosion to that of the city and that the Combine didn't do much about it except abandon it, and that's been the pattern hence forth.
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What? That's when all-out street war broke out between the Combine and the rebels.
 
SpectreBlofeld said:
What? That's when all-out street war broke out between the Combine and the rebels.
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yea but they didn't bother trying to rebuild it or anything. And seeing all those synths, I think the street war was a joke to the combine, until the tower went kablooy. Then they all of the sudden got pissed once Breen died.
 
A joke??
thats why there were 10 Striders in the one battle?!?
 
meh, 10 striders that were deployed ONLY after the main wall was breached. Besides, it's not like their any main battalion force or something. If 5 rebels can take one down, they're nothing much. I've seen hunters kill plenty more people. Striders are just big fat helpers for the army, who alone aren't so strong. If it didn't have it's big blue ray gun, it'd just be a tripod with a machine gun.
 
PortalStormzzzz said:
yea but they didn't bother trying to rebuild it or anything. And seeing all those synths, I think the street war was a joke to the combine, until the tower went kablooy. Then they all of the sudden got pissed once Breen died.
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Maybe they didn't rebuild it because, you know, they were busy going "pew-pew!" and all.
 
I don't know what pew pew means, but if you're talking about being over tired, then why wouldn't they use all those citadel troops if they though it such a problem.
 
Because then a rebel could go into the Citadel and kill everything? Besides, I bet most of the people in the Citadel were heading out to fight in the city when the message came that you were in there.
 
PortalStormzzzz said:
I don't know what pew pew means, but if you're talking about being over tired, then why wouldn't they use all those citadel troops if they though it such a problem.
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C'mon. The soul purpose of the overwatch garrison is for civil upheaval. I highly doubt a mass offensive by an semi-organized uprising after one of their few local teleporters was destroyed would be considered a "joke".
 
well, when did they not appear to be one? Maybe it's just me, but I blast through most of the post-revolution levels on hard within an hour.
 
A pretty ridiculous thought, but what if Breen had a backup like Chell?
 
I doubt the combine will have brain backup technology even if they do live entirely dependable on technology.
 
Nicky 0123 said:
I doubt the combine will have brain backup technology even if they do live entirely dependable on technology.
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Well, the advisors are immortal. They seem to fear death, really bad. It makes sense that if they were to have a "accident" that they would want a backup so they could be "ressurected".
Still, I'm just baselessly speculating.
 
I have a feeling we have not seen the last of Breen. I heard that "host body" comment in HL2 as well, I don't think that comment would have been put in there if Breen was do die.

Just my .02 cents.
 
I think this thread should have had a poll, but never mind, the majority of us seem to think that Breen is alive or alive as an advisor, I personally believe he is alive as the GNOME!!
 
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