Collaborators?

[Jimbomcb]

I was playing thugh City 17 and i seen this. Sorry if its been posted before. But i did try and check.

I have tryed to get it as accurate as possible

<Breen>
It has come to my attention that some have lately called me a collaberator, as if such a term was shameful

I ask you, what greator endeavour exists than that of collaboration?

In our current unparalleled enterprise, refusal to collaborate is simpaly a refusal to grow--an insistence on suicide, if you will.

Did the lungfish refuse to breathe the air? It did not.

It crept forth boldly while its brethern remained in the blackest ocean abyss, with lidless eyes forever staring at the black, ignorant and dommed despite their eternal vigilance.

Would we model ourselfs on the trilobite?

Are all the accomplishments of humanity fated to be nothing more than a layer of broken plastic shards thinly strewn across a fossil bed, sandwiched between the Burgess shale and an eon's worth of mud?

In order to be true to our nature, and our destiny, we must aspire to greater things. We have outgrown our cradle. It is futile to cry for our mothers milk, when our true sustenance awaits us among the stars.

And only the universal union that small minds call 'The Combine' can carry us there

Therefore I say, yes, I am a collaborator. We must all collaborate, willingly, eagerly, if we expect to reap the benifits of unification

And reap we shall.








I think this is quite intresting what he is saying.

 

[Jimbomcb]

The way he talks about the Combine being called the "Universal Union" and the way only they can carry us to the stars.

And "Refusal to collaborate is simply a refusal to grow, Suicide if you will."

It makes you think

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I remember reading somewhere, ages ago, about Half-Life 2, that both parties were wrong - both Breen and the Resistance - but one was more wrong than the other.

Makes you think - did you do the right thing in the end? What if the Combine were preparing Humanity to stand against something even worse?

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Asknoone]

Makes you think - did you do the right thing in the end? What if the Combine were preparing Humanity to stand against something even worse?

No, i dont think so. I doubt the combine are preparing you for something worse, all they do is go around conquering planets etc, enslavign the races and absorbing thier resources and tech.

All Breen means is, we can no llonger remain on earth, its a crap hole and the combine are going to have us leave it and take us away to thier universe to be enslaved. Now once we are there, we become immortal, we cannot die...this is why they stop us re producing...

No more reproducing, no more humans to be born because the current lot, albiet of which there arnt many are going to be slaves forever.

 

[Is This Tea]

Makes you think - did you do the right thing in the end?

That depends on which option you prefer…
1. No fight. Humanity lives on but in a radically altered state in which we have lost many if not most of the things we love about our humanity.

2. We fight but most likely we are wiped out by the superior power and technology of the combine. With this option we do get a very small chance of survival and it won’t be as slaves but most likely we are wiped out.

Choosing time…. I side with vorts… “Let this war end in either total victory or our extinction. No further compromise shall we allow.”

It should be noted that choice 2 also does not exclude the option of radical self alteration in the future… it does however ensure that we get to do it on our terms… Democracy is a good thing…

 

[chimpmunk]

No, i dont think so. I doubt the combine are preparing you for something worse, all they do is go around conquering planets etc, enslavign the races and absorbing thier resources and tech.

All Breen means is, we can no llonger remain on earth, its a crap hole and the combine are going to have us leave it and take us away to thier universe to be enslaved. Now once we are there, we become immortal, we cannot die...this is why they stop us re producing...

No more reproducing, no more humans to be born because the current lot, albiet of which there arnt many are going to be slaves forever.

I think the half life universe is deeper than bad guys vs good guys, what if breen was right? i wondered that all along.
There is something more, i tend to think the resistance were the wrong ones.

 

[OD-Black_Fire]

I had the feeling that Breen actually agreed with the resistance :/ I don't know why, it was just in his voice.

 

[eatbugs]

I think the half life universe is deeper than bad guys vs good guys, what if breen was right? i wondered that all along.
There is something more, i tend to think the resistance were the wrong ones.

But Gordon Freeman led the resistance. Gordon Freeman!
Good guys never die thats why Breen is dead.

 

[NapalmAndFriends]

I remember reading somewhere, ages ago, about Half-Life 2, that both parties were wrong - both Breen and the Resistance - but one was more wrong than the other.

Makes you think - did you do the right thing in the end? What if the Combine were preparing Humanity to stand against something even worse?

-Angry Lawyer

Wait...

What if Breen is right, and the Combine and Resistance are wrong?

 

[Asknoone]

Good guys never die thats why Breen is dead.

Breen didnt die, well, theres no evidence to say he did as of yet.

What if Breen is right, and the Combine and Resistance are wrong?

That wouldnt make sense, simply beause breen agrees with the combine and thinks they are the right choice for mankind.

The groups that are wrong is Breen handing over earth to the combine and the resistance for destroying thje citadel...because what if it destroys the whole city (although theres no evidence to say the citadel was destryoed of course)

 

[NapalmAndFriends]

What I mean is, what if Breen's dreams are best for the recovery of mankind?
And the resistance is trying to stop that, and if they win, then the whole thing could just turn upside down: pockets of Combine resistance.

 

[Asknoone]

What I mean is, what if Breen's dreams are best for the recovery of mankind?

What augmentation into the ranks of the combine to become slaves forever? Nah, all breen is out for is power, wealth and most of all the power of science and what lies beyond...

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Think of it this way...

The Great Immolator, a fleet of ships, hops from dimension to dimension, living only to destroy. Entire species are wiped out of existance, just to feed their anger. Either that, or they eat souls.
Now, no one species is able to stand up to these interstellar baddies. So, one species (the original 'Combine') decides to try and form an alliance. But, they get their claims laughed off - the other species are all to busy conquering each other. Now, there's a fleet coming for their dimension, and there's nothing they can do about it. So, they do the next best thing - assimilate the other races. With them all being subjugated, they've got better chances of survival due to no infighting. Now, the combine could be hopping from dimension to dimension, trying to find allies through the only means they know possible - subjugation. United as a single whole, we've got more chance of surviving the interstellar conqueror thing.

And just think - all throughout Earth's history, we've been fighting against each other - only after being conquered by the Combine would we, as a species, not be blowing one another apart.

It's tough love from the Combine. They'd actually bring world-wide peace.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Asknoone]

Nah, i would like that twist at all....valve have already said thatthey imgaine the combine as the ultimate borg type race, assimilating as they go to suffice their radical needs for resources etc (raising the bar)

I just dont think that twist would go well at all

 

[NapalmAndFriends]

What augmentation into the ranks of the combine to become slaves forever? Nah, all breen is out for is power, wealth and most of all the power of science and what lies beyond...

I thought all along, even before the Combine invasion, he wanted a better human race. That's why he sent the "pure" sample up; to test the boundaries of teleportation.
Thus, when the Combine came along, one can assume he came to a desicion that would save more people.

Intentions: Good

Methods: Bad

 

[Asknoone]

Thus, when the Combine came along, one can assume he came to a desicion that would save more people.

Well when the combine came along, they quite simply almost wiped it out...if you ask me breen just thought "oh crap were gonna be extinct soon...lets act as humanities saviour"

Thats all. they arnt going to save anybody by killing them.

Also, if you have read the captions listing, it has a few lines which didnt make it into the game...one of them bieng.

"I am relying on you to fail again dr freeman...just like i relied on you back at black mesa."

Those arnt good intentions, breen is just out for scientific knowledge, to him the human race is insufficient and dirty...as he tells the overwatch forces "your the finest the speices has to offer."

 

[Mister_Pie]

That would make an awesome plot twist-- the combine are actually grabbing as many races so they can fight off an even greater power.

Trippy!

Think of it this way...

The Great Immolator, a fleet of ships, hops from dimension to dimension, living only to destroy. Entire species are wiped out of existance, just to feed their anger. Either that, or they eat souls.
Now, no one species is able to stand up to these interstellar baddies. So, one species (the original 'Combine') decides to try and form an alliance. But, they get their claims laughed off - the other species are all to busy conquering each other. Now, there's a fleet coming for their dimension, and there's nothing they can do about it. So, they do the next best thing - assimilate the other races. With them all being subjugated, they've got better chances of survival due to no infighting. Now, the combine could be hopping from dimension to dimension, trying to find allies through the only means they know possible - subjugation. United as a single whole, we've got more chance of surviving the interstellar conqueror thing.

And just think - all throughout Earth's history, we've been fighting against each other - only after being conquered by the Combine would we, as a species, not be blowing one another apart.

It's tough love from the Combine. They'd actually bring world-wide peace.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Kristafon]

I think that the combine want to move us to xen to be slaves for their factories and then use earth themselves because they have no good planet of their own, but they make us think that were going to a better place, like in the holocaust

 

[Jimbomcb]

Thanks for all your replies



Sorry for my bad Engilsh (Not my first language)

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I like my theory best - it's the ultimate plot twist. I know it's implausible, but you never know...
And still, I fail to see any evidence that Xen was ever truly under the direct control of the Combine. Maybe as a beaten-down race that's agreed to be their allies/pay them tribute every so often, but I don't see much direct control. So I doubt the Combine want to do anything with Xen.

The ultimate ending for Half-Life 3 would be - instead of blowing the mother brain thing away - getting a resonable truce between the Combine and the Humans, and living in harmony.

One can only hope.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Cyan Leader]

For me, the Combine are the bad guys. They are ''combining'' other races for their will, including the humans.

They are now adapting Earth for Combine life, the humans are just not extint yet because the Combine are using them as slaves and soldiers.

Humans cannot procriate anymore because the Combine don't want more humans that may join resistance teams, if they want more soldiers or slaves, they probably can simply clone them (assuming that they have better tecnology at least to clone people).

To make a long history short, Combine wants Earth, Combine agreed with Dr. Breen because the humans can be of some use. I do not belive the Combine will continue to let human population alife anymore after the rebelion.