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http://www.wonderfulatheistsofcfl.org/Quotes.htm

I never knew that Gallileo was an athiest. I also release how immoral those darn athiests are, advancing science, freeing slaves, fighting for womens rights, acutally doing useful things for people, etc. This should put into persperctive what we have been saying all along: Athiests = more moral than religious people. Deny it all you want, but it was us who freed the slaves, not you.
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
http://www.wonderfulatheistsofcfl.org/Quotes.htm

I never knew that Gallileo was an athiest.
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He was a devout roman catholic...
Voltaire was also religious.
Atomic_Piggy said:
This should put into persperctive what we have been saying all along: Athiests = more moral than religious people. Deny it all you want, but it was us who freed the slaves, not you.
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Yes Freidrich Nietzsche was so very moral.
Also, Walt Disney, Marquis de Sade, Tolstoy, Marx, Napoleon
 
Dude, even I get tired of the religion-bashing some times.

This is on par with saying only Scientologists can help car-crash victims, only slightly less stupid.
 
Eejit said:
He was a devout roman catholic...
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He was very anti-catholic: "They know that it is human nature to take up causes whereby a man may oppress his neighbor, no matter how unjustly. ... Hence they have had no trouble in finding men who would preach the damnability and heresy of the new doctrine from the very pulpit."
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
He was very anti-catholic: "They know that it is human nature to take up causes whereby a man may oppress his neighbor, no matter how unjustly. ... Hence they have had no trouble in finding men who would preach the damnability and heresy of the new doctrine from the very pulpit."
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Yeah, he was so anti-catholic that he moved abroad to proclaim his scientific theories and stuck it up to the inquisition and the Pope.

Oh wait...

EDIT: That list and this topic are as intelligent as a "List of famous vegetarians" or "List of famous people who enjoy eating lucorice and dancing chipmunks".
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
He was very anti-catholic: "They know that it is human nature to take up causes whereby a man may oppress his neighbor, no matter how unjustly. ... Hence they have had no trouble in finding men who would preach the damnability and heresy of the new doctrine from the very pulpit."
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Do you even know the context of that quote? He was talking about academics who disagreed with him and tried to turn people against him and his theories. He wasn't talking about the Church itself.

Galileo was a very devout Catholic.

From the same letter that quote was taken from:
Galileo said:
I do not mean to infer that we need not have an extraordinary esteem for the passages of holy Scripture. On the contrary, having arrived at any certainties in physics, we ought to utilize these as the most appropriate aids in the true exposition of the Bible and in the investigation of those meanings which are necessarily contained therein, for these must be concordant with demonstrated truths. I should judge that the authority of the Bible was designed to persuade men of those articles and propositions which, surpassing all human reasoning could not be made credible by science, or by any other means than through the very mouth of the Holy Spirit...
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Funny how some atheists can be really religious and evangelical about their beliefs. It proves the fact that even athiesm is a belief system.

I'd wish everyone would just stfu about religion. That everyone would practice it behind their front door or in their godshouse, and that that would be it. That would make the world a lot more peaceful and quiet.
 
Shakermaker said:
It proves the fact that even athiesm is a belief system.
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No, it's not. This has been refuted on this board so many times it's getting silly. I'm pretty sure half of Absinthe's post count consists of dealing with this fallacy.

Don't confuse passion with fundamentalism. The two are not mutually inclusive - although fundamentalism usually coincides with a passionate belief, passionate beliefs aren't always dogmatic.
 
jondy said:
No, it's not. This has been refuted on this board so many times it's getting silly. I'm pretty sure half of Absinthe's post count consists of dealing with this fallacy.
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I am an atheist myself. And I am damn sure that what I 'believe' in is right, because it's based on scientifical fact. But as a scientifical thinker you must always assume that there is a possibility that you are wrong. I am not really bothered to be honest since the soonest I can find out wether I was right or not, will be when I die and I am not in a particular hurry for that.
 
Your belief in the scientific method has nothing to do with atheism. Atheism is just the absence of theism, the absence of a belief in god.
 
Faith is believing something without evidence. You don't believe you're an athiest, you've come to a logical conclusion based on evidence. That's not a belief system.
 
SINCE WHEN DID GENERAL OFF-TOPIC BECOME GENERAL YAWN-TOPIC

**** this shit, proper
 
He was agnostic. That list isn't accurate.
 
Eejit said:
Do you even know the context of that quote? He was talking about academics who disagreed with him and tried to turn people against him and his theories. He wasn't talking about the Church itself.

Galileo was a very devout Catholic.

From the same letter that quote was taken from:
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Ah yes. My mistake. Meh.

Eejit said:
He was agnostic. That list isn't accurate.
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So am I. Yet I am also an athiest. That is not a contradction.
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
So am I. Yet I am also an athiest. That is not a contradction.
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Ok, correction, Einstein was a theistic agnostic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_einstein#Religious_views

He wouldn't like being on that list either,
Albert Einstein said:
"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views."
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That website quotes people attacking Christianity or religion to imply they are atheists, but people like Thomas Paine were deists.
 
Mr Stabby said:
That website quotes people attacking Christianity or religion to imply they are atheists, but people like Thomas Paine were deists.
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Aye, tbh I hadn't read the whole thing, just the first few. I regret posting it altogethor as I have been ownd.
 
It happens to the best of us sometimes. /comfort
 
What other qualities one may possess is not necessarily caused upon by the absence of a belief in a god or gods. I predict, based on growing trends, that atheism is just a byproduct of an increasingly intelligent community. Most Christians, if you asked them, would probably say they are not really bound to the specifics of the Church and, overall, are probably not very good Christians.

I'd say there are a lot more atheists in the United States than statistics show or people would like to admit.
 
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Pesmerga said:
What other qualities one may possess is not necessarily caused upon by the absence of a belief in a god or gods. I predict, based on growing trends, that atheism is just a byproduct of an increasingly intelligent community. Most Christians, if you asked them, would probably say they are not really bound to the specifics of the Church and, overall, are probably not very good Christians.

I'd say there are a lot more atheists in the United States than statistics show or people would like to admit.
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Richard dawkins mentions that in the God Delusion. Places like Sweden, Iceland, norway, etc. with great education systems, high life expectancy and low crime rates are typically more athiest. Education is improving in most places, as one can tell from the astonshing decline in america, canada, france, uk, etc.
 
I believe in God. :|

Flame posts in T-minus 10..9..8.. (dons flame suit) 4..3..(dons re-breather and taser) 2.. 1..
 
You are therefore unintelligent/uneducated!!1
 
Eejit said:
You are therefore unintelligent/uneducated!!1
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My anti-flame suits not working?! Shit! /stops, drops, and rolls. :cheese:

P.S. I still think you cool though Eejit. I'm not a judgemental prick like many of them are. :)
 
Krynn72 said:
No, he just lives in the south.

Misinformed is the most likely reason!
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There are actually many Christians out there that are quite intelligent. A good friend of mine is taking advanced calculusII honors right now, and he's a Christian even. :O

When we talk during break, he never shuts up about NASA. :)

I myself will be taking Trigonometry honors next quarter.

Religion still seems to be the stereotype of those that live in the U.S. south that can't read or count for some reason. I guess no matter what kind of advancements are made in science and technology, many folks still yearn for a higher cause (myself included) you know?
 
Pesmerga said:
What other qualities one may possess is not necessarily caused upon by the absence of a belief in a god or gods. I predict, based on growing trends, that atheism is just a byproduct of an increasingly intelligent community. Most Christians, if you asked them, would probably say they are not really bound to the specifics of the Church and, overall, are probably not very good Christians.

I'd say there are a lot more atheists in the United States than statistics show or people would like to admit.
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I agree with this.
 
Some people seem to believe that scientific method should be applied to everything, including religion. I disagree with that.
Scientific method is for science, not for art, literature, religion or philosophy in my opinion.
 
Saturos said:
There are actually many Christians out there that are quite intelligent. A good friend of mine is taking advanced CalculusII honors right now, and he's a Christian even. :O

When we talk during break, he never shuts up about NASA. :)

I myself will be taking Trigonometry honors next quarter.

Religion still seems to be the stereotype of those that live in the U.S. south that can't read or count for some reason. I guess no matter what kind of advancements are made in science and technology, many folks still yearn for a higher cause (myself included) you know?
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Intelligent people can still be misinformed. Im not at all saying religious people are unintelligent. Obviously most of the smartest people in our history and even today are religious.
 
Eejit said:
Some people seem to believe that scientific method should be applied to everything, including religion. I disagree with that.
Scientific method is for science, not for art, literature, religion or philosophy in my opinion.
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You've got to think outside the box bro. That's where the truly amazing discoveries take place. :thumbs:

Take Einstein for instance. People scorned his theories for years, and it hasen't been until recently that physicists took him seriously.
 
Eejit said:
Some people seem to believe that scientific method should be applied to everything, including religion. I disagree with that.
Scientific method is for science, not for art, literature, religion or philosophy in my opinion.
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I don't see the problem in applying scientific method to art. Isn't it all the same method for everything? The function for the different methods is what sets it apart, which actually determines the method. But there must be thousands of approaches, all worth exploring. At the end of the day there's something that works out for everyone.

Ultimately, the end product is what counts, which is finally what will matter in the long run.
 
Saturos said:
You've got to think outside the box bro. That's where the truly amazing discoveries take place. :thumbs:
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That isn't thinking outside the box, though, it's applying a methodology to something that doesn't need or warrant it. Lots of people do it, but I still think it's wrong.

evil^milk said:
I don't see the problem in applying scientific method to art.
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One of the main parts of scientific method is making things repeatable for anyone who follows the stated method.
I believe that art is the opposite.
 
Eejit said:
One of the main parts of scientific method is making things repeatable for anyone who follows the stated method.
I believe that art is the opposite.
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The same can be said for an artistic method. That's why there are teachers. I think that's what I mean, anyway.

:P
 
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