Halo 2 PC INFO!

...and here I was hoping that Samon had posted something explosive :(

EDIT: What the fuck.. you don't need DX10 to play, just Vista. So much for the unified architecture facilitating an easier port
 
Funny, I was thinking the same thing :p

Anyway, that's cool. It's not an amazing series, but I do find the mindless combat quite enjoyable.
 
Not interested tbh...
I hated the single player for Halo 2. Found the Multiplayer boring too. I love the original Halo though. I'm hoping the third game is much more like the first.
 
Ren.182 said:
Not interested tbh...
I hated the single player for Halo 2. Found the Multiplayer boring too. I love the original Halo though. I'm hoping the third game is much more like the first.

Quoted for absolute truth.
 
jondy said:
...and here I was hoping that Samon had posted something explosive :(

EDIT: What the fuck.. you don't need DX10 to play, just Vista. So much for the unified architecture facilitating an easier port

Everything I post is explosive. :p
 
Meh could care less bout anything Halo 2 related at this point!
 
Sooner or later Microsoft are just going to have to cave in on that Vista only spec. I mean, if they have anyh wish for the product to sell at all. It won't push the O/S in any sense of the term, so why bother restricting your sales so much?

Either that or someone will work out an unofficial patch to get it working under Windows 2000/XP.
 
kupoartist said:
Sooner or later Microsoft are just going to have to cave in on that Vista only spec. I mean, if they have anyh wish for the product to sell at all. It won't push the O/S in any sense of the term, so why bother restricting your sales so much?

Either that or someone will work out an unofficial patch to get it working under Windows 2000/XP.

I doubt they'll drop the Vista only spec. They'll probably use it to advertise Vista, everyone knows Halo, so Halo 2 being a Vista exclusive will make some people buy vista no dobt.
 
The only reason I would not buy it is because they are going vista only when they don't have to.
 
I wonder if there will be any upgrades if users have DX10 level cards?
 
Halo 2 looks like a DX 7 game. Oh well, I don't really care too much, it's not much fun at all.
 
jondy said:
EDIT: What the fuck.. you don't need DX10 to play, just Vista. So much for the unified architecture facilitating an easier port
what are you talking about ? also, isn't halo2 over 2 years old, sort of before xna, live anywhere, dx10, vista and so on ? i don't think when they created halo2 they had anything in mind else in mind really besides the xbox, i'm sure there was some planning/thoughts on a pc port but no specifics as i doubt they were given much.

anyway.. i play it on live with my x360, it's fun, i'm thinking it would be more fun with a mouse/keyboard but i doubt it, i just can't seem to play console fps on computers, nor the other way around (like hl2 or red faction on xbox), it makes me feel dirty.
 
I doubt that they'd get as massive ammounts of people buying it - Firslty the 'little' vista issue but also the fact that those that love the Halo Saga will already have bought it for X-Box...

Also - when the PC gamers have plotlines like HL2 why would they bother...
 
I won't even bother pirating it if they leave out co-op again. Playing Halo by yourself sucks.
 
Iced_Eagle said:
I wonder if there will be any upgrades if users have DX10 level cards?

Nope. It's a DX9 game, and thats the way they're keeping it iirc. They're just making it a Vista exclusive.
 
nice, i am buying this game on my pc just be cause of its multiplayer mode
 
so Vista Required, but it wont use DX10 ?
Great.........
 
Pah, like I'd get this for PC. I have, what, Hitman: Blood Money, Dreamfall, The Movies, Oblivion, Aftermath (Episode 1)... all sorts of stuff, and they want me to play a game i finished a year or more ago? And a completely new OS with it? Not to mention the games to be released soon... like, i don't know, Spore or something....
 
I don't see why Halo gets so much hate. It's a high quality game.

So it's coming out for PC. Halo fans will be glad to hear it.

If you don't like the game then what is there to worry about? If you like the game, you can buy it.


and they want me to play a game i finished a year or more ago?
Yea, but to be fair, not everyone has 'already finished this game'. I have never played it myself.


I'm looking forward to Halo 3 on 360. I think this one is going to be incredible.
 
Oh i like Halo 1 and 2 can't wait for it on pc so i can owen people over the net :P
 
For some reason I am unstoppable on Halo PC Multiplayer... well, when I play against my friends (or otherwise, crazy Xbox fools).
 
VirusType2 said:
I don't see why Halo gets so much hate. It's a high quality game.

It's not that i hate Halo. It's that I've played this game already.

You're right though, i guess not everybody has.

Still, wouldn't an earlier port have been... well... better?
 
destrukt said:
what are you talking about ? also, isn't halo2 over 2 years old, sort of before xna, live anywhere, dx10, vista and so on ? i don't think when they created halo2 they had anything in mind else in mind really besides the xbox, i'm sure there was some planning/thoughts on a pc port but no specifics as i doubt they were given much.

When I asked why Halo 2 would be Vista only on this forum a while ago, someone explained that by using DX10 Bungie would have an easier time porting the game, with it's unified architecture giving coders a better idea of what target systems would be able to do. Now it's apparent that Halo 2 will be dx9 compatible, any pretentions of easier porting or efficiency are gone.. the only reason Halo 2 will be Vista exclusive is because Microsoft say so
 
jondy said:
When I asked why Halo 2 would be Vista only on this forum a while ago, someone explained that by using DX10 Bungie would have an easier time porting the game, with it's unified architecture giving coders a better idea of what target systems would be able to do. Now it's apparent that Halo 2 will be dx9 compatible, any pretentions of easier porting or efficiency are gone.. the only reason Halo 2 will be Vista exclusive is because Microsoft say so

So whats wrong with that? Companies need to show people reasons why they should buy their product and Halo is a well known IP. Most XBOX360 games would be just as fun if they came out on XBOX so why do they put it on the 360? Games from any console can run on the other consoles or PCs so why dont they get released on them?

If anyone wants to play it then just buy it for XBOX, im sure you can get it used for $20 somewhere and I bet you will buy a computer that comes with vista sometime in the next 10 years.

I'm not saying this to just you, it is just everyone keeps complaining about what microsoft keeps doing with something it own!
 
It is a bit much to be paying for a game though.
Vista will probably a little over $200, and Halo 2 will probably be about $40/$50.

:|... but then again, that's the way it is with consoles.
 
DrDevin said:
So whats wrong with that? Companies need to show people reasons why they should buy their product and Halo is a well known IP. Most XBOX360 games would be just as fun if they came out on XBOX so why do they put it on the 360? Games from any console can run on the other consoles or PCs so why dont they get released on them?

If anyone wants to play it then just buy it for XBOX, im sure you can get it used for $20 somewhere and I bet you will buy a computer that comes with vista sometime in the next 10 years.

I'm not saying this to just you, it is just everyone keeps complaining about what microsoft keeps doing with something it own!

I agree with you, people do bitch a lot, me included . It just seems a little too much to force a product to be Vista only when it could be run on XP, without, it seems, even requiring a hardware upgrade.

Microsoft have every right to do whatever the hell they want with their IP, but that doesn't stop this move from being completely transparent. Anyway, I'll probably buy it nonetheless, so there we are :) Here's hoping it'll get a dx10 makeover
 
jondy said:
When I asked why Halo 2 would be Vista only on this forum a while ago, someone explained that by using DX10 Bungie would have an easier time porting the game, with it's unified architecture giving coders a better idea of what target systems would be able to do. Now it's apparent that Halo 2 will be dx9 compatible, any pretentions of easier porting or efficiency are gone.. the only reason Halo 2 will be Vista exclusive is because Microsoft say so
is it just me, or are you assuming or just thinking you know alot, when you don't.

we have more or less no idea about how they developed halo2, whether they planned for it being on vista or using dx10 and so on.

you're getting angry over nothing, except for wanting to hate on microsoft more.

must suck to have to be so negative/cynical. :|


also, for you people complaining that you've already played it.. WHAT THE HELL ? you're raging that they're releasing a game for the pc and you've already finished it on the xbox, boohoo, obviously you're not the real target, they're going for people who haven't played it, probably due to not owning an xbox, so now the pc guys who don't have one can play it.

did i cry when hl2 was released on xbox ? no, i just didn't care for it, you guys do the same, just swap hl2 with halo2.


it just seems all you guys want to do is rage and hate microsoft, why can't you just be nice and happy ? ;(

i don't freaking cry every time a developer does something i personally dislike. :/
 
destrukt said:
is it just me, or are you assuming or just thinking you know alot, when you don't.

<snip>

must suck to have to be so negative/cynical. :|

Read the post above you, mate :)
 
Why they would bother with this is quite beyond me. Do they think by having Vista as a requirement that it will sell more OSs/Vista PCs because all of the fanboys will get it for the PC too? Everyone who wanted to play this game already has. PC gamers have played tons of better shooters for years nad years and years. It just seems like a cheap ploy to try to exploit their biggest franchise frankly.

I don't get it. Halo has always been a sub-par, trite, boring shooter to me. How people can get so excited about it is something that just depresses me as it is a sad commentary on the minds of the youth of today...;(
 
jondy said:
Read the post above you, mate :)
hah, referring to the others i guess. :D

VictimOfScience said:
I don't get it. Half life has always been a sub-par, trite, boring shooter to me. How people can get so excited about it is something that just depresses me as it is a sad commentary on the minds of the youth of today...;(
;)

people have the exact same opinions on either side. :P
 
Halo 2 is a mediocre game, Bungie are acting like Sony, if they think rebadging a 2 year old game as a Windows Vista exclusive will sell
 
Why they would bother with this is quite beyond me. Do they think by having Vista as a requirement that it will sell more OSs/Vista PCs because all of the fanboys will get it for the PC too? Everyone who wanted to play this game already has. PC gamers have played tons of better shooters for years nad years and years. It just seems like a cheap ploy to try to exploit their biggest franchise frankly.
PC gamers have played tons of better shooters for years and years? Like what? Sure there are other FPS, but each one is different, and a few does not equal tons. The only ones I have played that are any good are Doom3 and HL2, and Medal of Honor, and Halo - in that order. All the other PC shooters are average, in my opinion.

And this announcement is no different than a Mario game coming to PC. Some PC gamers want these games that only come for consoles. I can't count how many times I thought to myself, "DAMN I WISH THAT GAME WOULD COME FOR PC" for many of the popular console games. Why would you think that Halo is any different for many gamers?

And speaking of Mario, Halo is Microsoft's Mario, and is the saving grace for the Xbox in Japan none-the less. The game has sold millions, so even if you don't like it, many - if not most - gamers do.

'A cheap ploy to exploit their biggest franchise?'
:laugh: Whoa. They are a software company, and they are bringing their most popular game software to the PC game platform and you call that a cheap ploy?


That's like saying selling hamburgers at the drive through is a cheap ploy to get fast food customers at McDonald's.

Halo is not their biggest franchise, incidentally. What are you using to view this message right now? Windows? Exactly. They are selling their newest, biggest game, for their newest biggest operating system. If you guys can't understand, then maybe after reading this, you will.


Why create two versions of Halo 2? An XP and Vista version? They are aiming to phase out XP and phase in Vista. ;) It would be like buying new tires for a car that you are selling. That's just bad business sense. So why would they spend a million or so dollars, and so much time when they can be using this time and money to work on Halo 3?

Consider that many Halo fans are PC only, and many would wait to play it with a Keyboard and mouse on a high powered computer in ultra high resolution. The Halo 2 for PC also comes with a level editor, which in my opinion, is a great way to improve a games' staying power. (mods) And you never know, with two operating systems it might make multiplayer impossible.

If it was the other way around, might you say that releasing the game on XP only would also be a "cheap ploy" to sell the game twice? Once for XP users and again for Vista users?

So I guess, in your eyes, simply porting a popular video game just plain bothers you. I guess it's taking attention away from the games that you like - that incidentally, don't get any attention, anyway. :stare:


Besides, it's an Xbox game, DX10 isn't necessary and doubtfully would offer any benefit. Then also, you would see more angry fans, and people that just bought a 7900 GT card would be furious. By making it DX10, you now have ZERO potential customers at this point.

Microsoft doesn't make graphics cards, they make Operating systems. If Microsoft was ATI or NVIDIA, then I'm certain Halo2 would be DX10 only, and I doubt anyone would say anything bad about them for doing so. It's simple business strategy. If they aren't profitable, then a business will disappear.


I don't get it. Halo has always been a sub-par, trite, boring shooter to me. How people can get so excited about it is something that just depresses me as it is a sad commentary on the minds of the youth of today...
Thats funny because I feel the same way about some of the games that interest you and .. well I'll just stop, but I don't say anything because it serves no purpose but to show our differences and annoy you.

And the halo series has some groundbreaking AI, among other things, and calling it sub-par is undermining every game review website. Considering Halo won many awards and received scores of 9-10 from respectable professional game reviewers it's a bit unpopular to call it sub-par.
 
VirusType2 said:
Why create two versions of Halo 2? An XP and Vista version? They are aiming to phase out XP and phase in Vista. It would be like buying new tires for a car that you are selling.. just bad business sense.
Now that DirectX 10 is not a requirement, it's simply looking less and less likely that there is any kind of legitimate technological reason that the Vista version is not XP compatible, or couldn't be made compatible with a miniscule addition of code to the retail Halo 2 disc.
VirusType2 said:
Considering Halo won many awards and received scores of 9-10 from respectable professional game reviewers it's a bit unpopular to call it sub-par.
A lot of people lost respect for these sites with the Halo 1 reviews. Why were critical flaws in the game, most notably that it was one third of a game copied and pasted to make up the rest of the game not factored into the review? It doesn't take much of an imagination to figure out why. Microsoft needed to shift XBoxes. They needed people to suppose their killer-app was the be all and end all. People can romanticise "respectable professional game reviewers" all they like, but the fact is these guys are not going to die for their art and if Microsoft is going to bribe them with cash, or threaten to not give them access to exclusive news, reviews, previews for their emerging product, they're going to write damned good reviews. Also worth noting that the range was more like 8-9 for the PC version, presumeably because there was less handjobbing and they were allowed to adknowledge the weaknesses of a game that otherwise certainly has its moments.
 
The truth is, that its to soon to be releasing another OS. XP is finnally stable with all the patches, I don't want to jump in another OS with thousand of bugs and security holes.
 
VirusType2 said:
All the other PC shooters are average, in my opinion.
Really? I guess you never played them in the days of Unreal, Quake, or Half-Life??? You, my friend, are missing out.

VirusType2 said:
:laugh: Whoa. They are a software company, and they are bringing their most popular game software to the PC game platform and you call that a cheap ploy?
Yes, I do. The game is played. Its been out for years and frankly I think its a little insulting that they don't bring something like, say, Halo 3 to Vista with all of its DX10 features and such. Its old and simplybetter left on a console.

VirusType2 said:
Halo is not their biggest franchise, incidentally. What are you using to view this message right now? Windows? Exactly. They are selling their newest, biggest game, for their newest biggest operating system. If you guys can't understand, then maybe after reading this, you will.
FC5 smart guy! (Gaming? Windows; Everything else? Linux) :laugh: But I sincerely hope that this isn't their newest and biggest game. :rolleyes:

VirusType2 said:
Consider that many Halo fans are PC only, and many would wait to play it with a Keyboard and mouse on a high powered computer in ultra high resolution.
I don't think that you can say that any Halo fans are PC only. If you are a Halo fan, you have both games and a console to play them on. PC only Halo fans don't exist imho...yet.

VirusType2 said:
I guess it's taking attention away from the games that you like - that incidentally, don't get any attention, anyway. :stare:
And that's the real shame of anything done from without the mainstream in any field: movies, music, literature, gaming. If its not big-budget and involving many famous faces or has loads of new tech, then its written off and relegated to smaller theaters, publishing companies, musical venues, etc. The best of anything out there is not in the mainstream.

VirusType2 said:
Besides, it's an Xbox game, DX10 isn't necessary and doubtfully would offer any benefit. Then also, you would see more angry fans, and people that just bought a 7900 GT card would be furious. By making it DX10, you now have ZERO potential customers at this point.
Ha! You might as well make it Vista only! Oh wait--it is!! I believe you have absolutely ZERO potential for customers for that at this point too. :P

VirusType2 said:
Thats funny because I feel the same way about some of the games that interest you and .. well I'll just stop, but I don't say anything because it serves no purpose but to show our differences and annoy you.
A wise decision. :cheers:

VirusType2 said:
And the halo series has some groundbreaking AI, among other things, and calling it sub-par is undermining every game review website. Considering Halo won many awards and received scores of 9-10 from respectable professional game reviewers it's a bit unpopular to call it sub-par.
After playing Halo 1 (esp.), I stand by my opinion that it is a sub-par shooter that brought nothing new to the table in my eyes. Maybe because it was on a console people got all hot and bothered, but it still does nothing for me. Oh well.
 
kupoartist said:
People can romanticise "respectable professional game reviewers" all they like, but the fact is these guys are not going to die for their art and if Microsoft is going to bribe them with cash, or threaten to not give them access to exclusive news, reviews, previews for their emerging product, they're going to write damned good reviews. Also worth noting that the range was more like 8-9 for the PC version, presumeably because there was less handjobbing and they were allowed to adknowledge the weaknesses of a game that otherwise certainly has its moments.

" It's a consipiracy! "

PC version
9.0
superb

gamespot editor choice
Halo 2
Xbox Game by Microsoft IGN Score: 9.8

Gamespot said:
Game: Halo: Combat Evolved (XBOX)
Release Date: Nov 14, 2001
Not only is this easily the best of the Xbox launch games, but it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform.
PC VERSION 9.4
superb
Halo: Combat Evolved
Xbox Game by Microsoft IGN Score: 9.7
Halo 2: Limited Collector's Edition
Xbox Game by Microsoft IGN Score: 9.8
Halo 2 made entertainment history by generating $125 million in sales in one day.
Halo 2 Xbox

95 / 100 Metacritic.com

based on 91 reviews

I suppose the whole world is in on this conspiracy Kopa.

Read this:
Avg Ratio: 95%
Based On 102 Media Outlets
Game Rankings SCORE: 97%
So I guess 102 media outlets were bribed money and nobody said anything?

Don't be so ridiculous. I suppose Mario-Kart is really a stupid game but Nintendo is paying everyone to like it. :laugh:

Please don't presume anything, because you sound like a UFO conspiracy theorist (All wild ideas, but no facts. Ridiculous)


You know why the PC version didn't score as good? (9 instead of 9.8) Because it wasn't as ****ing good. Brilliant reason for a lower score I'd say. It was a port, and it wasn't as good. The PC reviews are done by the same sites. You know why the PC version scored less? Because it required a really powerful PC to run what the Xbox did, and still had some problems.
Read the reviews yourself instead of speculating what they might have said.
"Microsoft was giving hand-jobs to game reviewers."
Oh ****ing please.
LOL.

Halo 3 is going to own. All the FACTS about the sequel to the fastest selling game in history that have been released so far are incredible, and to deny this series as any good is to deny that Oscar winning movies are good. Sure, you may not have liked it, but nearly all of the people that PLAYED IT did.

http://www.gamespot.com/search.html?type=11&stype=all&qs=HALO+PC

PC
SUPERB
9.7

Game: Halo: Combat Evolved (PC)
Release Date: Sep 30, 2003


here over 36,000 people scored it 9.5


Halo 2 Xbox
We Say 9.4
You Say 9.1
(36,333 votes) They Say
9.5

[Halo 3 news]

BTW, yes I played unreal and quake, and I stand by what I said. I'm not into multiplayer frag-fests, unless it is using conventional weaponry.

Halo was far better than average it was pretty amazing if you ask me. Halo 2 gave the game online multi-player, among other things.
 
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