hl3 plot hints in hl2

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hl3 is almost certainly going to involve time travel of one sort or other. The g-man freezes you for several years before hl2, at nova prospect you and alyx some how loose a week in the teleporter, and then at the end g-man apparently stops time to save you from the citidel teleporter explosion, but what if, as with nova prospect, the teleporter exploding initiates some kind of time rift. That would also conveniently save alyx. What do you guys think?
 
I think that time travel (of the going back in time variety) is dumb, because it would create tons of bizare paradoxes. So I hope that's not the case.

One thing that is mentioned almost as much as 'time' is 'the other side of a combine portal', and how it is dangerous there. I bet that's at least part of the next game's settings.
 
I think that in half life 3 you will storm a combine facility, and while making your escape, you come upon an old friend...your buggy

Remember during the lighthouse mission when the place gets overrun right as your foot is out the door...you see the dropship flying away carrying your buggy

I bet they took it to a facility
 
I play City 17 and Sandtraps over again because I just love driving that buggy.
 
I actually don't think time travel would be that bad, if done correctly. I'm thinking along the lines of say jumping between like 3 distinct points in time consistently.

Say, past, present, and future, and Gordon has missions to accomplish in all three. I think it might affect immersiont though: part of what made HL2 so compelling was that you practically got everywhere you wanted by foot.
 
vsaravia said:
I play City 17 and Sandtraps over again because I just love driving that buggy.

Why did you play City 17 again to drive the buggy?
 
maybe you go back in time to the black msea incident, and you have to do stuff to save gordon but you are gordon, but other gordon doesnt know.

Actually, that sounds stupid. :P
 
I just hope it doesnt take them another 6 years to make the next one. And I do hope they continue the story between Freeman and Alyx, they only went very briefly on that at the end. We also don't know what happened to Judith and Eli, so I think hl3 will have a bit to expand on. Hope though that in the third half-life it's not the same ending as the other two.
 
HL3 will probably be set in some other universe-- wherever Breen went, whether he made it to the Combine universe or not. We'll probably get to see G-Man's universe also, unless he is indiginous to the Combine Universe. I wouldn't be surrised if HL3 ends in Black Mesa, before the resonance cascade can happen, and thereby wrap up all the loose ends. That might be a little hackneyed and sterotypical an ending, but still might happen. The big bad boss will be the Combine Leader, and maybe there will be a final showdown with the G-Man, depending on whatever he is. (My personal theory is that the G-Man looks like Gordon and everyone speculates he is Gordon-- or vehemently argues that he is not Gordon-- because G-Man uses Gordon's body as a host body-- he got it sometime in the future, and so GMAN is and is not Gordon. Perhaps you will kill GMAN so he can't take your body, and he doesn't go to Black Mesa, and so the resonance cascade never happens, and you are 'teleported' back to the moment before the test begins. Killing him, whether he's got your body or not, still might make that happen. )

The weirdness level will probably be maxed out in HL3, and not just saved for the last level as in HL1 (Xen) and HL2 (The Citadel)-- in fact I can see it ending on an opposite note-- 'normally'-- again at Black Mesa before the accident.

Just my theory, and Valve is likely to prove me wrong. :)
 
Time Travel is, a bad word, remember how when you teleported in the combine citadel, it took a week to teleport, well, maybe, G Man will introduce you, maybe not directly but, anyways, introduce to a machine that teleports you to a place, but instead of taking time, it puts you back in time, hard to describe, more like teleporting then time traveling
 
2 things that'll probably be included in HL3 are that city seen beyond the portal in the top floor of the citadel and also, you'll most probably fight that maggot Combine overlord thing.

Damn, when I saw Breen talking to it, I thought: "Awesome! That thing is huge! So that's the final boss of the game, eh? Can't wait to face him!"

Only to be let down...but surely you'll beat the shit out of that lardass in HL3.
 
The_Great_Walter said:
2 things that'll probably be included in HL3 are that city seen beyond the portal in the top floor of the citadel and also, you'll most probably fight that maggot Combine overlord thing.
I certainly hope so. And I hope he is apropriatly tricky to kill. Then I hope Alyx gives Gordon smooches.

Thats the only way to properly make up for the anti-climatic cliffhanger ending of HL2.
 
It could also be argued that it isn't time travel that is being imposed in HL2, but perhaps merely the slowing of time. I've read explanations that say there is a form of "slow teleportation" that essentially keeps you in a slow or suspended state until you come out of the portal. It's very probable that in every case we've seen the warping of time, that this is the case.

The strongest case is Gordan's suspended animation. Many believe he's put into a warp so slow it essentially freezes him until he is released.
When Gordan and Alyx teleport, they go through a similar process, but not as slow, taking only a week for the teleportation to transpire.
The more difficult case to explain would be the end with the G-man's seeming stopping of time. For all we know, he could have projected both himself and Gordan into an extremely slow teleportation, where he then left Gordan to remain until his next assignment.

If this is the case, then it's probable to believe that through tweaks in the teleportation, time can be slowed, or practically stopped for the transportee, but that gives no evidence that time can be reversed (as we have seen no case of this in the HL2 universe).

Just my little theory on things.
 
The more difficult case to explain would be the end with the G-man's seeming stopping of time. For all we know, he could have projected both himself and Gordan into an extremely slow teleportation, where he then left Gordan to remain until his next assignment.

yes i agree with that. i dont think g-man can stop time. but like u said he took himself and u into a slow teleport with got u out of danger, and u were already in another place, not at the explosion site.
 
i think teleport technology being used so much in HL2 is a big hint, yeah. Its also probably fair to assume that the half-life series would best end as a triligy like many great movies have, and HL3 will be the last game in the specific story of half life. HL3 will probably take place when the aliens invade, since HL2 is during the transistion, and HL1 is before the invasion.

I thought HL2 was in a different place to start, but its obviously on earth, no curve balls there. Having HL3 happen in a completely undeterminable time and place would be awsome.
 
Personally I think HL3 will be set on earth, possibly around present day again, seems to be one of the things that make the half life series so immersive and believable. A possible way to continue would be over the hopefully short period between HL2 and HL3 the Combine threat is deminished, and the rebels begin to take earth back, Alyx could possibly have been transported to the Combine homeworld during the dark matter explosion, or rescued by the g-man. The combine apear to use slave races by adding them to their own race technoloicly, so I think they will be back via another army, and make an alternative attempt on earth in its weakened state. Possible reason and oportunity to get alyx back. Bring on the reallllllly heavy guns... alien technologyies stolen from yet another race...and some form of superior storm troopers. Maybe you could be trying to fight along side the new government, and a bodged together united earth army?
 
yeah i agree with above. you tried to stop the aliens this time, but you didnt really stop them, just made big problems for them and freed the people of earth. HL3 is THE battle in which the hostile aliens are defeated for good.

Just like Halo 3 is conclusion of a huge battle that is about to begin, and Matrix 3 was the conclusion of a huge battle between humans and machines.
 
I think Half life 3 will be gordon off doing one of these "interesting offers" gman recieved for his employement. You'l most likley go to the combine universe as well....

And gman cant stop time, all i think he did was take gordon out of there, also, when theres a singularity collapse, those near it have time going extremely slo for them
 
HL3 will more than like have time travel. In any series with a post apoclyptic future the main goal of the hero is to get things back like they are suppose to be like in terminator, back to the future 2, time cop, ect ect. Think about it earth and humanity has been devastated and the only way to truly win is to stop the combine from comming or have the humans find a better way to beat the combine. Humans have been tourtured and oceans have been drained, humans reproductive needs removed, the earth isn't the same and there is no way the humans will live like this forever so a total prevention isn't out of the question.
 
n any series with a post apoclyptic future the main goal of the hero is to get things back like they are suppose to be like in terminator

Yeah, a sci fi cliche, but i honestly think that mar laidlaw and co are aiming for a much more original story
 
Yep, no time stopping or travelling, just dimension hopping. Cuz, you know accoring to our good ole' Albert back a few decades, time is relative to the observer. So G-man doesn't affect the time continuum of earth in any way he just pulls Gordon into another dimension in which time progresses in a very different pace compared to that of earth. In the end of HL2 you're being pulled into another dimension whilst still being able to observe the events of the earth dimension. The only that thing that doesn't fit in with this theory is, that if supposedly you're in a "slow" dimension, the events observed on the earth dimension should be happening really quickly.
Though it's is possible that you were in some sort of a intermediate dimension for a while, ie. G-man first pulled you to a really quick dimension (as in then the earth dimension would seem slow) and from there he trasnported you back in to the "slow" dimension in which you spent the time between HL1 and HL2.

What comes to the general plot of HL3, I don't think it's going to be as straightforwarded as stated here on many occasions, ie. Gordon going in for the Combine overlordbugthing and having and affair with Alyx or any other that kinda stuff. My best bet is, that it's going to be like HL2 in a way, you're once again dropped in the middle of events of which you don't have full comprehension, this time, it's a lot later, like a 100 years after HL2, many many things have changed and you'll be clueless once again. Yes, something a lot more subtle and elegant than just straightforwarded "Halo"-type of bashing in and kicking some Combine butt, in fact, I'm not even certain if HL3 going to have Combine at all (as in opponents). Time, time will tell ;)
 
Hey people, first post, have to start somewhere :), anyway:
thinking about how long after hl2 the third part will take place, keep in mind that the reproductive-inhabitation field is still active, so that means that hl3 cannot possibly take place too long after hl2, since all humans will have died simply of old age. And assuming hl3 will be the last part (trilogy sounds logical to me), then we will definately see all that main characters again, find out who the g-man is, kick some more combine ass, shut down the anti-sex field and end the story somehow. But knowing anything for certain seems a bit impossible.
So i think it's not a matter of being able to guess what hl3 is gonna be like, it's simply waiting for another awesome game.
 
how can u say gman has no control over time, he mentions the word TIME in his hl2 final speech like 5 times at least. Time clearly freezes at the end of hl2. True time is just a concept, but according to the concept of time we have created the Gman has stopped it. If gordon doesnt look a day older and all of the sudden hes in the future, time travel has happened the way most people consider it.
 
The maggot is called The Advisor. It seems to be... just a maggot with a flying device, breathing apparatus and camera attached to it so it can see. The collar around it's neck features all sorts of exotic symbols. The two robotic arms it features have a slash attack. It's surprising that the Advisor has got attacking animations in HL2 even when you don't fight him. It's likely to me that in an expansion soon this will happen.
 
I recon, Half life 3, will just be one, big, crowbar slaughterfest, that would be mad, gordon, just rampaging around, whilst slowly becoming G-Man like, battering alien gits to death with his curved steel rod of doom!
 
Maybe (but hopefully not) the entire of HL2 was designed to work bullet time into the HL series... so it to can join the ranks of games/movies that use this. First couple of times bullet time was used, it was cool... now its just getting repetitive.

;)

I think someting to do with time will be in HL3, but would hope Laidlaw could come up with someting more original, although maybe he will do it in an original way.

Only time will tell (ok, so its a terrible pun, but i couldn't resist)
 
are you saying that the plot will involve time?!?!?!

never would have guessed THAT one :D
 
Audiophile said:
are you saying that the plot will involve time?!?!?!

never would have guessed THAT one :D
"TIME, Doctor Freeman? Is it really that TIME again? ... You've achieved a great deal in a short TIME-span... These are interesting TIMES... In the meanTIME..."
For Christ's sake, we get it. The plot has something to do with... Well, I'm really not at liberty to say.

Oh no wait, yes I am; TIME.
 
Are YOU saying that Half Li....*kicks Audiophile in the nuts and then runs off*
 
My bet for Half-Life 3 is that the G-Man takes one of the offers he mentions at the end of HL2. THis time around Gordon is going to have to do something he really doesn't want to...like say, fight against the resistance. I think that instead of killing his friends Gordon will find a way to rebel against the G-Man, making him/it the final boss.
 
Yea, oddly enough, HL2 has weapon anims for The G-Man, maby giving us a glimpse of the future? either that, or you and the G-Man go into Combine Territory and Kick some ass! WHOO HAA!
 
I reckon that HL2 to HL3 will be similar to HL1 to HL2. Once again, at the end of HL2, you've blowed up something real good and created some sort of rift in dimensions. Cue even weirder alien beasties.

I think we'll see a lot more "Combined" enemies - augmented enemies from all of the races the Combine have assimilated so far.

One thing's for certain it's not going to be 10 years later, that'd be far too similar to HL2. I reckon it'll either be WAY into the future (which would put a relationship with Granny Alyx as a definite impossibility) or just a short while after.

I like the idea of Alyx, Eli and Mossman being sucked into the Alien Dimension because of the explosion - which kicks off the main plot of HL3, get them back. Let's hope it's nothing like Xen from HL1. Actually, with what Source is capable of, an alien landscape could be something truly breathtaking.

I CAN'T WAIT!!!
 
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