IMO, why the spoiler was fake

[Quelaar]

My explanation of why the spoiler was fake:

Spoiler

If the G-Man was, in fact, a future gordon (despite bearing no resemblance), wouldn't the G-Man have avoided the black mesa disaster? Although some time control explanation would explain your sudden entrance into half-life 2's world, you'd think that Gordon, fighting through the black mesa disaster (were colleagues died) and a revolution (were the spoiler suggest Alyx dies), would change history given the chance to go back in time before it all started. Not to mention Opposing Force, and the Opposing Force manual, suggest that Shephard was a potential "G-man assistant" like Gordon. Why would the G-Man ever think of choosing anyone other than himself to survive and "benefit" from the disaster?

Plus, that "you are your own enemy" thing is overplayed and really lame.

Just my 2 cents,

Quelaar

 

[f|uke]

If you remember the alternate ending of HL1, you can see that its fake. Why would he kill himself?

 

[Quelaar]

Mmmm hmmm, that was one piece of proof I used in my post. There's even a lot more that wouldn't make any sense if the spoiler was true.

Quelaar

 

[johnnypoopoopant]

what does quelaar mean, is it spanish? and that was a pretty good explanation

 

[Zento]

Because he knows what choice he will make

 

[The Mullinator]

Of course it was fake. Its much easier to write up your own ending and spoilers than to read through the leaked script. They were just lazy thats all.

 

[f|uke]

Because he knows what choice he will make

No, its a divergent path (and Gordon is not 'he', Gordon is you, which on its own is another perfect reason why its bullshit. You are not G-Man, and never will be). If you do not make that choice, Gordon is killed. Given what happens in that timeline, it simply does not make sense.

(dont give them ideas, Mull!)

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

If you remember the alternate ending of HL1, you can see that its fake. Why would he kill himself?

if he was unwilling to save mankind and barney could have instead.. I might do that something to that dude

 

[The Mullinator]

(dont give them ideas, Mull!)

If they didn't have that idea before then I don't think they would do it anytime later unless I really pissed them off and they wanted some form of revenge.

They made up fake spoilers because they knew they would get the same reaction out of people as if they were real spoilers.

 

[Quelaar]

Random name generator from Everquest (lame :afro: ). Played it for 2 weeks before uninstalling and eating a monthly fee, but I like the name and kept it.

Only RPGs I ever got into were Freedom Force (best), KOTOR and Fable. Diablo (I and II), the Baldur's Gate games and Everquest can't satisfy my short attention span (< attention span of :monkee: )

Quelaar

 

[johnnypoopoopant]

o i thought it was some type of spanish word, btw welcome to the forums quelaar

 

[Jesus Lincoln]

I Can't resist the temptation to look at spoiler tags, please dont post stuff like that in the future....for the kittens

 

[f|uke]

I Can't resist the temptation to look at spoiler tags, please dont post stuff like that in the future....for the kittens

Its not a real spoiler. Its bogus.

 

[Quelaar]

I Can't resist the temptation to look at spoiler tags, please dont post stuff like that in the future....for the kittens

Anyone have a link to that "every time you do x, a kitten dies" image?

Quelaar

*EDIT* thanks for the welcome poopants!

 

[KidRock]

lol that sucks.. they ruined the story for us.. oh well we still have the physics!

How do you guys know it is fake? Have you played the game...? no.

 

[fishy90]

Spoiler

i do thin that barney is a bad person... i think he is combine in and acting like gordons friend while setting him up

jut my opinion on barney

 

[Petabyte]

I never heard of this spoiler. Can anyone point me to it with a link? Or briefly summerize it. Even though its proably fake as some have said, it sounds like a good read!

 

[f|uke]

lol that sucks.. they ruined the story for us.. oh well we still have the physics!

How do you guys know it is fake? Have you played the game...? no.

Listen very carefully, "KidRock"..

1) If Gman = Gordon of the future, why would Gman kill his past self at the end of HL1?
2) The Half-Life philosophy is that you are Gordon, and you fill his character. Gman is his own character, and you are never Gman.
3) Gman was ultimatly instrumental in Gordons survival. If Gordon = Gman, it would be created out of a paradox, which is obviously absolutly impossible

Gman is NOT Gordon. End of story.

 

[Ownzed]

I don't want to hear anymore spoilers! My limit is up for life. I've seen enough now. Stop posting them even if you have to highlight them I don't care. It's annoying trying to spoil the game.. :flame:

 

[f|uke]

For ****s sake! They're fake!

 

[mashed]

Spoiler

Isn't it an unwritten rule of sci-fi that if you time travel and come into contact with your former self, there would be a thermonuclear explosion?

:naughty:

I don't believe it's true. And I'd hope for the sake of a good storyline that it isn't...

 

[f|uke]

What was that movie,.. Time Cop? With Jean Claud Van Dam.. lol. the bad guy touched himself and went *poof*,. man thats stupid,. for so many reasons.

 

[vicefredav444]

if u went into the past, u would go into the past of another timeline, u then change whatever u want in this timeline, but the timeline u came from stays intact.

so the g-man could possibly go back and do whatever he wants to his former self, remember this is a theory, and hl2 is a game, it can happen

 

[f|uke]

so the g-man could possibly go back and do whatever he wants to his former self, remember this is a theory, and hl2 is a game, it can happen

This still does not address points 2 and 3. (and, in the split timeline theory, why would he ever go back at all? and it still makes no sense as to why he would want to kill his past self). It is a game, but its a good game,. and that would just be stupid.

 

[Mitch2891]

Listen very carefully, "KidRock"..

1) If Gman = Gordon of the future, why would Gman kill his past self at the end of HL1?
2) The Half-Life philosophy is that you are Gordon, and you fill his character. Gman is his own character, and you are never Gman.
3) Gman was ultimatly instrumental in Gordons survival. If Gordon = Gman, it would be created out of a paradox, which is obviously absolutly impossible

Gman is NOT Gordon. End of story.

The only problem I have with this is the point 1)If as the story is ment to go you chose that option then why are you not dead? So surely gordon is meant to have chosen to join at the end.

And point 3 it is a game they can do it if they want!

 

[|Ben|]

Well, we will never know until the game is finally released.

 

[f|uke]

The only problem I have with this is the point 1)If as the story is ment to go you chose that option then why are you not dead? So surely gordon is meant to have chosen to join at the end.

And point 3 it is a game they can do it if they want!

1) You are not MEANT to do anything. You do what YOU want to do. This is part of the whole you = Gordon thing. And the fact is, when you DONT go through the portal, you are killed. Yes, HL2 is made from the standpoint that you went through the portal. This is done for obvious reasons, but does not mean that the other option never happened, because it did. I know. I first choose to not go through the portal, to see what would happen. And Gman had me killed. Which, if Gman = Gordon, makes no sense!

3) Well, the same could go for point 2, couldn't it. Or VALVe could say that everything was an illusion, and Gordon is inside the Matrix. Or any number of stupid ideas. VALVe is not that stupid, and certainly are not willing to subject themselves to the ammount of abuse they will take for such an obvious plot hole.

(Oh yes, lets make the super secret twist at the end the stupidest, most impossible and unbelieveable thing imaginiable! Our fans will just love that!)

Well, we will never know until the game is finally released.

Maybe you wont. But anyone with any common sense knows now.

Now if any of you argue any more, I'm going to whip out my f'n crowbar and beat some sense into you.

 

[vicefredav444]

untill we play hl2 , only thing we know is that the player is gordon, he could be anything or anyone mark laidlaw wants him to be for hl2, i'm guessing thats who wrote the story. thats the point of a twist, to make u believe one thing and completely change it.

I don't know what the spoiler was but maybe the g-man doesnt wanna kill gordon. its wierd how he's always watching over u, like a guardian angel, maybe hes trying to come back to use himself to accomplish something, even if it means killing his past self from another timeline, coz he will exist no matter what coz hes from a different timeline.i dont know what radical theories they would use to explain this shit, but hey u never know.

I was wondering, does the leaked script reveal what happens, if so, whoever posted the spoiler could be right then. I hope hes wrong tho, coz i want a suprise so badly now.

 

[f|uke]

untill we play hl2 , only thing we know is that the player is gordon, he could be anything or anyone mark laidlaw wants him to be for hl2, i'm guessing thats who wrote the story. thats the point of a twist, to make u believe one thing and completely change it.

The point of a twist is to change your perspective by affirming a possibility that you overlooked. Not to just change the facts as it suites, contradicting previous knowledge, just because the audience wouldn't expect it.

Plot twists = unexpected, but possible within the context of the previously told story
Plot holes = impossible within the context of the previously told story

 

[T.H.C.138]

amen to that f|uke

 

[f|uke]

amen to that f|uke

:cheers: Cheers

 

[vicefredav444]

Plot twists = unexpected, but possible within the context of the previously told story
story

I didn't mean changing the facts completely, but changing the way u think of the story. Like in the movie the village, actually forget it, i dont wanna spoil that movie for u. but yeh within the half-life universe, they could have u think the g-man is a seperate character when really hes u from the future helping u help him get ahead with something. coz of the whole timelime thing.

I hope this isnt the case, but if they got this spoiler from the leaked script and its right, theres gotta be some kind of explanation.

 

[f|uke]

I understand where you're coming from.

But considering the reviews, VALVe's intelligence, and my reasoning, I would literally bet my life that its not true (if the counter wager was worthy!)

I'd far sooner believe that Gman is Gordons father.

 

[Asknoone]

The spoiler is fake, and having read the script i can say thats its completely and utterly untrue

 

[vicefredav444]

I'd far sooner believe that Gman is Gordons father.

Gordon I am your father!

The spoiler is fake, and having read the script i can say thats its completely and utterly untrue

Yes!!! That’s what i wanted to hear, confirmation from someone who read the script. Good, now the mystery that is the g-man will remain intact and hopefully they will explain it at all at the end of hl2, although another cliffhanger ending looks more likely.

 

[f|uke]

Gordon I am your father!

:O Nooooooooo!!!! Thats impossible!!

 

[T.H.C.138]

"join me Gordon,and together we shall rule the galaxy!!"