Local Car Show

[Glirk Dient]

well, old cars that you consider ugly and crapy where good performers on theyr time

Yeah...and they aren't anymore. It is like a kid hanging on to cartoons and watches them until your 40. It was once cool but it isn't anymore and you just look silly to everyone else.

honestly I hope it dont look too similiar to the 350z,not cuz is ugly is cuz nissan hav put the 350z style in various of theyr cars and it dont look that great

oh yeah and new mustangs are geting boring

hell there are many here and this is not a town where you see cool cars

There are pictures in the link. It doesn't really resemble a 350z..they are aiming for something new. I am not sure I like how boxy it looks. IMO the Audi r8 is one of the most amazing cars and I would much rather get that.
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/audi_r8.asp

...I'm all for everybody having different tastes, but you seriously think that a G6 looks better than ANY of the cars (or bike) pictured?

Like, you're not even joking? Seriously?[/quote]

Sorry I can't stand 80s looking cars. All the things in those pictures looked silly. I can't stand the way any of the ferraris looked. The bike was cool but I could care less for bikes.

 

[3ssence]

Old Ferrari's are things of great beauty, i wouldn't necessarily buy one for the performance (although they are by no means slow) but i would buy one because some of them are works of art. A true car enthusiast can appreciate cars from any year, as beauty has no definitions, certainly not age. However, everyone has the right to their own opinion.

Btw, i love the 350z and i would give a leg for an R8 as well ! I just consider some of the older ferrari's truly beautiful machines.

 

[Higlac]

It's a 930 slant nose...not a 911.

Read the liscense plate.

Eh, I like imports, then again, I own an 88 RX-7 GTU.....I'm not fond of the American Muscle cars...just don't like the way they look. Especially the newer Cumstains....I mean, christ, I see a Mustang at least 4 every ****ing block in this town *I'm sure it's worse everywhere else*...I like to play the "Count the mustang" game....Going 10 blocks we easily get up to 20....

I drive a mustang. Got it for $800 wrecked and we rebuilt it.

Old mustangs though, like the GT500 or the Boss 429, were very very fast, and I don't think anyone can deny these looks.

 

[CyberPitz]

Read the liscense plate.




I drive a mustang. Got it for $800 wrecked and we rebuilt it.

Old mustangs though, like the GT500 or the Boss 429, were very very fast, and I don't think anyone can deny these looks.

I can deny the looks

I just think I've seen SO freaking many of them around town they wore on my nerves....same as civics. guh

 

[Parrot of doom]

I'd have to question the knowledge of anybody who would rather take an American car that goes fast only in a straight line and then wobbles like a jelly in the corners, over a pedigree European supercar that frankly wouldn't be seen for dust.

The yanks only consider muscle and power when they're looking at fast cars. Whereas in the rest of the world, people are too busy laughing at their woefully bad cars with wheely-bin plastic interiors and lack of any design ideas whatsoever. Cars with 6 litre engines and 250bhp, compared to cars over here with 4 litre N/A engines and 400bhp. Cars with cart-spring suspension and live rear axles compared to independant 4 point suspension and trick diffs.

Anybody who questions the beauty of the cars in that show IMO must also question their sexuality.

 

[CyberPitz]

Parrot nailed it for me. I'd rather have a car that can drive really fast, take corners tight, and drift very well, then something that can go in a straight line only, and tries to turn then flips.

 

[cheddarrr]

i dont want a car that takes corners super awsome cause.. i dont need to be going 70+ and takeing the corners squealing all 4 tires. in my car the whole thing wobbles and gets blown around the highway like a leaf at 70.. and i love it. how about them flat-four 2.3 liter making 400 bhp i can face it. my cars are pos. but i love them

 

[Glirk Dient]

This is why you get an evo 9. It can out perform any stock muscle car and turn better than most cars as well. The lancer evo is an absolutely amazing car. It is my next buy and I can't wait to race the penis cars and show them my 4 cylinder can out perform their car on a straightaway and take turns twice as fast.

 

[xcellerate]

...decided it wasn't worth it....

Read the liscense plate.

All I have to say is it's spelled "license" and a 930 is a specific type of 911, and 'slant nose' is a specific type of 930. You don't run around calling all the ford pickups 'f-series' do you? You shouldn't run around calling all 911's just '911' either.

Life deserves specificity.

This is why you get an evo 9. It can out perform any stock muscle car and turn better than most cars as well.

2006 MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION IX MR
Estimated price as tested: $35,700 (estimated base price: $35,700)
"expect skidpad performance to stay in the low-0.90-g range"
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.9 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.4 sec
Braking, 70-0 mph: 155 ft
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.4 sec @ 104 mph

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/9394/2006-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-ix-page2.html


2007 z06
.99g SkidPad
0-60mph 3.6sec
0-100mph 8.3sec
5-60mph 4.3sec
70-0mph 153ft
1/4mile 11.8 @ 122mph
http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/download/0703_checor_z06_comparo_ts.pdf

sure the evo IX may be cheaper, but you didn't mention anything about price. You just said, "It can out perform any stock muscle car." I'm not trying to argue american muscle is the best, but really you shouldn't run around making claims like that.

 

[3ssence]

xcellowned

 

[<RJMC>]

Yeah...and they aren't anymore. It is like a kid hanging on to cartoons and watches them until your 40. It was once cool but it isn't anymore and you just look silly to everyone else.

see thats the point,you are not a fan of the cars,you just want to hav the latest thing cool thing,sure theyre is people that owns cars that are not the best anymore but they still own them cuz they like them

so stop saying about what looks crap and what dont cuz it clearly show you only care about the "latest cool thing"

 

[Vigilante]

I'd take the Olds 442, the Vette, and the 911 turbo.

I'd have to question the knowledge of anybody who would rather take an American car that goes fast only in a straight line and then wobbles like a jelly in the corners, over a pedigree European supercar that frankly wouldn't be seen for dust.

The yanks only consider muscle and power when they're looking at fast cars. Whereas in the rest of the world, people are too busy laughing at their woefully bad cars with wheely-bin plastic interiors and lack of any design ideas whatsoever. Cars with 6 litre engines and 250bhp, compared to cars over here with 4 litre N/A engines and 400bhp. Cars with cart-spring suspension and live rear axles compared to independant 4 point suspension and trick diffs.

Oh boy, don't get me started. I live for cars, they're my passion, but the differences in principle between Euro and American cars is HUGE. I will be the first to admit most american cars are only good for going fast in a straight line, but the difference in affordibility.

400bhp NA car, okay, what's the cheapest you can find? I'm simply using BMW as an example here. 2007 BMW M5 sedan, DOHC 5.0 V10, base price: $83,000! Most people can't afford this.

While an american car definately doesn't offer the refinement of a Euro car, they offer performance for people who can't afford to spend the 6 digits to buy a 400bhp Euro. Also, as Carroll Shelby said, "Torque wins races, horsepower sells cars." A new Chevrolet Corvette, base model, starting at $44,995, produces 400bhp and 400 ft lbs of torque, for HALF the price of an M5.

Whatever though, I'm an american car person, that's why I drive this:

With this under the hood:

You can't recreate this sound with anything another than American:


My mustangs handles fairly well, drifts well, and can slaughter almost any piece of shit Japanese rice burner on the road. Don't get me wrong here, I love Euro cars. Hell, I have a Triumph TR6 sitting in my garage. I want an early 70s Porsche 911. But one thing I think American cars have that many (not all) Euro cars lack is a personality.

This can't be said for a Japanese car though. The Japanese are amazing at producing the most sterile looking cars on the face of the planet, and I absolutely refuse to buy one. I love putting a stupid little ricer Civic or Integra in it's place. I can hang with Evos and STIs.

 

[xcellerate]

My mustangs handles fairly well, drifts well, and can slaughter almost any piece of shit Japanese rice burner on the road.

Why do you want to drift?

and the audi RS4 makes 414hp and costs around $60k, and it also has AWD, and 4 doors.

 

[Glirk Dient]

2006 MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION IX MR
Estimated price as tested: $35,700 (estimated base price: $35,700)
"expect skidpad performance to stay in the low-0.90-g range"
Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.9 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.4 sec
Braking, 70-0 mph: 155 ft
Standing 1/4-mile: 13.4 sec @ 104 mph

http://www.caranddriver.com/previews/9394/2006-mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-ix-page2.html


2007 z06
.99g SkidPad
0-60mph 3.6sec
0-100mph 8.3sec
5-60mph 4.3sec
70-0mph 153ft
1/4mile 11.8 @ 122mph
http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/download/0703_checor_z06_comparo_ts.pdf

Alright you proved me wrong. I guess it takes a car that costs twice as much to match that car. I am not sure if that is really winning when you could have 2 of the same car or spend that extra money on the evo and it will be up to par or blow the doors off that vette.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jasVs82cGE&mode=related&search= There is a modified evo doing a 9.2 1/4th. Granted if we pitted the vette and the evo together on a real racetrack there would be no doubt in my mind the evo would win.

Here is a stock evo 8 taking on a mercielago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7otp-QWODEc

see thats the point,you are not a fan of the cars,you just want to hav the latest thing cool thing,sure theyre is people that owns cars that are not the best anymore but they still own them cuz they like them

so stop saying about what looks crap and what dont cuz it clearly show you only care about the "latest cool thing"

Uhh clearly. Because the evo is the top selling car worldwise. Yep I want to be just like everyone else.

I don't know a single person who owns an evo, and I have seen more vettes and penis cars that I have evos. Sorry, your logic fails.I could say the same thing about your penis cars. You only drive them because big engines make you feel like a man, but I am not making that claim because I realize people have a passion for their car. Granted I could care less for that car and thinks it looks like a door stop with wheels but that is my own opinion.

 

[CyberPitz]

*SNIP*

I love the general stereotype there. So every Japanese car is "rice burner"? What makes a car a Rice Burner? I was under the impression it was an import that looks fast, but really has nothing to back it up. I've seen plenty of cars that look fast, and are damn fast anyway.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/rx7/3/037baeb1-7f35-4558-96da-98b2003b7694.htm

Yes that's street legal.

 

[Higlac]

Oh hell, I have a friend with a 1979 RX-7 and it is fast as hell. And it is in no way, shape, or form a ricer.

Nice 5.0 Mustang.

Parrot nailed it for me. I'd rather have a car that can drive really fast, take corners tight, and drift very well, then something that can go in a straight line only, and tries to turn then flips.

The mustang SVO has the same amount of power as the 5.0 litre in a turbocharged inline 4. It came with Koni shocks standard and runs most road courses on par with or faster than a Dodge Viper. Only 10,000 were ever built so they are very rare cars.

 

[xcellerate]

Alright you proved me wrong. I guess it takes a car that costs twice as much to match that car. I am not sure if that is really winning when you could have 2 of the same car or spend that extra money on the evo and it will be up to par or blow the doors off that vette.

I'm just going to paste what I already said; that you so conveniently left out or didn't read from my last post:

"sure the evo IX may be cheaper, but you didn't mention anything about price. You just said, "It can out perform any stock muscle car." I'm not trying to argue american muscle is the best, but really you shouldn't run around making claims like that."

And don't start brining modified cars into the mix, that's just pointless.

There is a modified evo doing a 9.2 1/4th. Granted if we pitted the vette and the evo together on a real racetrack there would be no doubt in my mind the evo would win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt3jNyIWEMQ
There is a video of a stock z06 on radial's running an 11.06.

What is your basis for the evo winning on a track? The z06 out accelerates, out brakes, and pulls higher numbers on the skidpad?

Here are the times around nordschleife:
8:11 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR prototype, 280 PS/40.8 kgf?m/1420 kg, Takayuki Kinoshita
7:43 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06, 512 PS/1419 kg, Jan Magnussen, 2005/06/23

So now you're going to say that between the prototype and the production car they shaved almost 30 seconds off a lap time? And don't even try to tell me nordschleife is not the MOST fair track to judge a car, it has basically every turn imaginable followed by a fantastic back straight which leads into a virtual top-speed-to-zero brake test, then through the finish line.

 

[CyberPitz]

Oh hell, I have a friend with a 1979 RX-7 and it is fast as hell. And it is in no way, shape, or form a ricer.

Nice 5.0 Mustang.




The mustang SVO has the same amount of power as the 5.0 litre in a turbocharged inline 4. It came with Koni shocks standard and runs most road courses on par with or faster than a Dodge Viper. Only 10,000 were ever built so they are very rare cars.

Hmmm...looks like the same body style as the early 90 stangs...but the hoodscoop looks a little weird..small...

But I guess that would have lots of different packages. I've races with 5.0s and in my n/a it somehow started to pull on them, then when we started into the turns, he had to slow down dramatically before he lost control...

I guess whatever that stang has under it helps it alot

 

[Dalamari]

American cars all suck, minus the Ford GT which is really a British car

Audi RS4 ftw


end of discussion.

 

[Glirk Dient]

I'm just going to paste what I already said; that you so conveniently left out or didn't read from my last post:

"sure the evo IX may be cheaper, but you didn't mention anything about price. You just said, "It can out perform any stock muscle car." I'm not trying to argue american muscle is the best, but really you shouldn't run around making claims like that."

And don't start brining modified cars into the mix, that's just pointless.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt3jNyIWEMQ
There is a video of a stock z06 on radial's running an 11.06.

What is your basis for the evo winning on a track? The z06 out accelerates, out brakes, and pulls higher numbers on the skidpad?

Here are the times around nordschleife:
8:11 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR prototype, 280 PS/40.8 kgf?m/1420 kg, Takayuki Kinoshita
7:43 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06, 512 PS/1419 kg, Jan Magnussen, 2005/06/23

So now you're going to say that between the prototype and the production car they shaved almost 30 seconds off a lap time? And don't even try to tell me nordschleife is not the MOST fair track to judge a car, it has basically every turn imaginable followed by a fantastic back straight which leads into a virtual top-speed-to-zero brake test, then through the finish line.

Way to pit 2 cars together that aren't even in the price range. Again if your gonna pit a car that costs way more than the evo 9 you have to pit it against modified evos. BTW you didn't link the sit that has a video of the race. Was is an actual race, the best times, those 2 cars going at it? Single race times don't matter as the drives makes too much of a difference. Have you even looked at the top gear video I posted of the evo taking on a murcielago?

 

[xcellerate]

Way to pit 2 cars together that aren't even in the price range. Again if your gonna pit a car that costs way more than the evo 9 you have to pit it against modified evos. BTW you didn't link the sit that has a video of the race. Was is an actual race, the best times, those 2 cars going at it? Single race times don't matter as the drives makes too much of a difference. Have you even looked at the top gear video I posted of the evo taking on a murcielago?

once AGAIN, you didn't mention ANYTHING about price when you said, "This is why you get an evo 9. It can out perform any stock muscle car and turn better than most cars as well." But suddenly when I find an american car that does pretty much everything better you start screaming, "ah but it costs more!"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times

there's the site. Here's the video you can find of the EVO IX (Best Motoring International video "Carrera Invasion") Go get it. Now you're talking about drivers, as if Mitsubishi is going to be like, "hey you there...in the yellow shirt; we need a driver for our car, just jump in and take it around the track!"

Look up Takayuki Kinoshita, you'll see he's a professional race car driver and more than capable of handling the evo. You don't see me complaining about Jan Magnussen.

Single race times make ALL the difference as it removes every variable except for the car and the driver. Then you can't scream, "the evo would have been faster if the z06 didn't keep blocking him!" or "how was the evo supposed to take the proper line if the z06 can't driving a defensive line?!"

You still haven't explained to me how a car that is slower, has worse brakes, and can't turn as well is going to beat a car that does those things better, around a track.

Maybe the evo will just late brake into the corner--nope.
Maybe the evo will just pass him on the straight away--nope.
Maybe the evo will take the outside line through the corner and pass him--nope.

and I don't need to see the video you posted because I've already seen it, let me guess the Lamborghini spins out. OMG THEY WEREN'T DRIVEN BY THE SAME PERSON! DRIVERS MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE THAT LAMBO WOULD TOTALLY WIN IF THE EVO DRIVER WAS DRIVING IT!@!'

 

[DreamThrall]

<3

 

[CyberPitz]

<3

You're obsessed, sir.

But that's OK.
<3

 

[DreamThrall]

You're obsessed, sir.

But that's OK.
<3

Indeed I am!

 

[xcellerate]

Indeed I am!

Mini's are really fun. My friend drives one, and some nights when we go drink, I won't, just so I can drive it home.

His has ~15,000 miles on it, and this is his 4th set of tires. He drives it like nobody's business, and he screams at me (drunk or sober) to go faster/push harder/pull the e-brake/etc.

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Don't forget in that Top Gear ep the Evo MR loses to a van from a roll.


And I'll take the Testarossa.

 

[DreamThrall]

Mini's are really fun. My friend drives one, and some nights when we go drink, I won't, just so I can drive it home.

His has ~15,000 miles on it, and this is his 4th set of tires. He drives it like nobody's business, and he screams at me (drunk or sober) to go faster/push harder/pull the e-brake/etc.

I'm totally scared to use the e-brake for turning. Never done it before.

 

[xcellerate]

I'm totally scared to use the e-brake for turning. Never done it before.

well...I use the ebrake to bias braking to the rear so I can even out the severe understeer in my GTi or his mini.

 

[CyberPitz]

My ebrake makes me spin on gravel...

When I'm going 10 mph.

The rest of the time I just barely start to slow down.

Crappy ebrake ftw.

 

[DreamThrall]

well...I use the ebrake to bias braking to the rear so I can even out the severe understeer in my GTi or his mini.

mmm... GTi... used to love those too, until VW uglified them :\

/pukes

 

[<RJMC>]

Uhh clearly. Because the evo is the top selling car worldwise. Yep I want to be just like everyone else.

I don't know a single person who owns an evo, and I have seen more vettes and penis cars that I have evos. Sorry, your logic fails.I could say the same thing about your penis cars. You only drive them because big engines make you feel like a man, but I am not making that claim because I realize people have a passion for their car. Granted I could care less for that car and thinks it looks like a door stop with wheels but that is my own opinion.

again whad de **** are you talking about?

and penis cars?
you think the porsches are focused only in big engines
anyway I dont know crap about performances cuz that wasnt the point,the point was look cuz you said a g6 looked better that any of the cars shown
but off course put the performance card but you wanted to "own" me


and just cuz a evo beated a murcielago it dosent mean the murci is bad,but it means the evo is dam good (havent seen video yet)so is another "penis" car cuz is about power too even if it dont hav super horsepowers

 

[xcellerate]

and just cuz a evo beated a murcielago it dosent mean the murci is bad,but it means the evo is dam good (havent seen video yet)so is another "penis" car cuz is about power too even if it dont hav super horsepowers

It didn't 'beat' the lambo. Jeremy was driving the evo and some professional driver was in the lambo, and they were lapping their test track and jeremy was trying to intimidate the other driver, and the lambo ended up spinning out and then Jeremy started shouting something like, "yes! I've done it! I've beaten the Lamborghini!"

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Only reason the Evo MR was able to keep up with the Murc is it was fitted with ginormous turbo. It is specifically designed for amazing handling and huge lumps of power in higher rev ranges. The Lambo Murc, being naturally aspirated has a smoother powerband and with it's curb weight of ~3,670lbs, any power gains made through it's larger engine are offset due to being over 400lbs heavier.

Wiki:
"The Lancer Evolution VIII displayed at the 2003 Tokyo Motor Show took the MR designation traditionally reserved for Mitsubishi Motors high-performance models and used first on the Galant GTO. Other parts on the MR include BBS alloy wheels, Bilstein shocks, and an aluminium roof. In the United Kingdom, many special Evolutions were introduced, which included FQ300, FQ320, FQ340, and FQ400 variants. They each came with 305, 320, 340, and 400 hp (227, 239, 254 and 298 kW), respectively.

The FQ400, sold through Ralliart UK, produces 302.13 kW (405.2 hp), from its 2.0 L 4G63 engine as the result of being specially modified by United Kingdom tuning firms Rampage, Owen Developments and Flow Race Engines. At 202.9 hp (151.3 kW) per litre, it has one of the highest specific output per litre of any roadcar engine. With a curb weight of around 3200 lb (1451 kg), it achieves a 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and a 0-100 in around 9 seconds, while costing about ?47,000. BBC's television series Top Gear demonstrated that the FQ-400 could surprisingly keep up with a Lamborghini Murcielago around a test track. The Stig recorded a Top Gear Power Lap Times of 1 minute 24.8 seconds.[citation needed] In a similar test conducted by UK supercar magazine evo, the Evolution was able to lap the Bedford Autodrome faster than an Audi RS4 and a Porsche Carrera 4S."

And after all that, it's one major fault is it's turbo lag.

 

[Vigilante]

I love the general stereotype there. So every Japanese car is "rice burner"? What makes a car a Rice Burner? I was under the impression it was an import that looks fast, but really has nothing to back it up. I've seen plenty of cars that look fast, and are damn fast anyway.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/rx7/3/037baeb1-7f35-4558-96da-98b2003b7694.htm

Yes that's street legal.

I did not say that all Japanese cars are ricers. The typical qualifications to be a ricer:

1) Huge exhaust that serves no purpose but to make the car louder
2) Large spoiler on the back that looks like something Boeing made for the 747. Gotta keep all that rear wheel horsepower under control!
3) Lots of after-market company stickers they don't have parts from, but must be cool
4) Expensive rims that usually cost more than the car itself
5) Bodykit to make the car appear lower, usually accented with chicken wire
6) Clear tail lights and corner signals
7) A "performace intake"- a tube that feeds cold air to their engine usually located in areas of excessive heat (behind or on top of the engine).

This list basically applies to slow cars who don't have the balls to back it up. I do NOT consider WRX STis, Evos, Supras, RX7s, 350z, etc, ricers becuase they have the power to back themselves up. In my opinion, there are only three good looking cars to come out of Japan. They are the Toyota 2000GT, Honda S2000, and the R33 Skyline. Call me stupid, though, I just prefer American cars. I love the rumble and sound of a V8, the torque down low is a feeling unlike any other, and they just have personality.

 

[xcellerate]

delete

 

[CyberPitz]

I did not say that all Japanese cars are ricers. The typical qualifications to be a ricer:

1) Huge exhaust that serves no purpose but to make the car louder
2) Large spoiler on the back that looks like something Boeing made for the 747. Gotta keep all that rear wheel horsepower under control!
3) Lots of after-market company stickers they don't have parts from, but must be cool
4) Expensive rims that usually cost more than the car itself
5) Bodykit to make the car appear lower, usually accented with chicken wire
6) Clear tail lights and corner signals
7) A "performace intake"- a tube that feeds cold air to their engine usually located in areas of excessive heat (behind or on top of the engine).

This list basically applies to slow cars who don't have the balls to back it up. I do NOT consider WRX STis, Evos, Supras, RX7s, 350z, etc, ricers becuase they have the power to back themselves up. In my opinion, there are only three good looking cars to come out of Japan. They are the Toyota 2000GT, Honda S2000, and the R33 Skyline. Call me stupid, though, I just prefer American cars. I love the rumble and sound of a V8, the torque down low is a feeling unlike any other, and they just have personality.

Haha, it's cool dog, I was just joshin' ya on how you said that all jap cars are ricers

American cars have their plus...affordablitiy, I just can't get into them too well..just me.

 

[Vigilante]

Haha, it's cool dog, I was just joshin' ya on how you said that all jap cars are ricers

American cars have their plus...affordablitiy, I just can't get into them too well..just me.

Definately. To each their own I suppose. I respect all fast and good looking cars, which is why I've got this baby sitting in the garage:

Nobody can say that isn't a beautiful car!

 

[Higlac]

Hmmm...looks like the same body style as the early 90 stangs...but the hoodscoop looks a little weird..small...

But I guess that would have lots of different packages. I've races with 5.0s and in my n/a it somehow started to pull on them, then when we started into the turns, he had to slow down dramatically before he lost control...

I guess whatever that stang has under it helps it alot

It is an intercooler for the turbo, and it keeps the gas from exploding before it should.

They were only manufactured from 1984 to 1986. Again, less than 10000 ever made.

The intercooler is the thing that looks like an air filter. Top left.

And I recall my statement that the 911 turbo with the rubber bumper looks like crap. Its just the bumper that looks like crap.

 

[xLostx]

I'm waiting to get my Fairlady

 

[CyberPitz]

It is an intercooler for the turbo, and it keeps the gas from exploding before it should.

They were only manufactured from 1984 to 1986. Again, less than 10000 ever made.

The intercooler is the thing that looks like an air filter. Top left.

And I recall my statement that the 911 turbo with the rubber bumper looks like crap. Its just the bumper that looks like crap.

Yeah, I knew it was the hoodscoop for the top mount intercooler...I'm just used to the 7s hoodscoop..Wonder why they didn't put a front mount on those things though? If they were going for rarity, why not make it that much more awesome?