US BMD getting better all the time...

[CptStern]

what other motivation could there have been? the tactic they used was pretty obvious if you ask me

 

[gh0st]

GhostFox, dont bother arguing with him. Everything is Americas fault, even attacks against Europeans who simply support a just cause, only to be scared back into the political woodwork. They werent attacked because they participated in anything, they were attacked for openly supporting America; the same reason why Italians were taken hostage in Iraq. They are cowards and murderers, even Spanish civilians, who directly have no ties to America or the Iraq war are justified targets of war for these monsters.

 

[Lemonking]

do you have anything to back yourself up? Are you saying madrid was targeted because of other motives besides the war in iraq?

oh Stern..the reason wasnt Iraq it was Afganistan
and I dont care what u say U ARE ANTI AMERICAN.
all post and threads u make describe how the US sucks at doing things

 

[GhostFox]

what other motivation could there have been?

Maybe the fact that they were at the top of Al-Qaeda's hitlist before the war in Iraq? Read my post and my logic phrasing. It is just like that.

Al-Qaeda plans to attack Spain for being a so called "christian nation".
Spain then participates in the capture of Saddam, who Osama supposedly hates so much.
Al-Qeada then attacks Spain.

Clearly Al-Qaeda attacked Spain because of Iraq. I mean what kind of backwards logic is that?

Are you saying madrid was targeted because of other motives besides the war in iraq?

I'm saying that Iraq had zero influence on the attack.

 

[gh0st]

all post and threads u make describe how the US sucks at doing things

You just figured this out? Stern hates America and all it stands for. If he ran the world (which thankfully his damaging, ignorant googling wont) we'd be full of terrorists blowing things up on a whim with little response: BECAUSE THEY'D BE RIGHT. We'd be "understanding" them taking the more "evolved" diplomatic path, we'd be desecrating our past, stomping on our laws, making our borders open to every transient terrorist on earth. This is the folly of liberalism, and stern is a perfect example of this spineless, illogical persuasion.

 

[GhostFox]

If he ran the world (which thankfully his damaging, ignorant googling wont) we'd be full of terrorists blowing things up on a whim with little response: BECAUSE THEY'D BE RIGHT. We'd be "understanding" them taking the more "evolved" diplomatic path, we'd be desecrating our past, stomping on our laws, making our borders open to every transient terrorist on earth. This is the folly of liberalism, and stern is a perfect example of this spineless, illogical persuasion.

Actually I think Stern's anti-amercanism is completely irrational and has no basis in political beliefs. I don't know what caused it, but I get the feeling that if Michael Moore was president, Stern would still hate the US. To put his agenda down to mere politics is oversimplifying it in my view.

 

[Tr0n]

What about anti-Sternism?

Seems like all ya'll are doing is bashing Stern.

"Hey guys!Lets go after Stern today because we don't like his opinion!"

 

[GhostFox]

Hey guys!Lets go after Stern today because we don't like his opinion!"

What people don't like is that Stern only has one basic post. "America is evil and is the fault of all bad and no good in the world."

Every post by Stern is designed simply to further his anti-american agenda. I think we would all be happy if he could drop then and then start adressing the issues at hand impartially.

I don't think anyone here hates Stern. He's probably a nice guy. But his constant agenda gets old quick.

 

[Tr0n]

What people don't like is that Stern only has one basic post. "America is evil and is the fault of all bad and no good in the world."

Every post by Stern is designed simply to further his anti-american agenda. I think we would all be happy if he could drop then and then start adressing the issues at hand impartially.

I don't think anyone here hates Stern. He's probably a nice guy. But his constant agenda gets old quick.

...and you are trying to further your pro-american agenda...which in turn makes you no better than him.

Thats all that everyone is doing in this forum.... :|

So lay off him a little for god sakes.

 

[GhostFox]

and you are trying to further your pro-american agenda...which in turn makes you no better than him.

My agenda isn't pro-america. I'm simply "fair to america".

I said it before. If I could have voted, I wouldn't have voted for Bush either time. Yet at the same time I don't think he is a nazi. Do you notice my rational, balanced view even though I disagree with many of his policies?

 

[gh0st]

I certainly dont have the pathos to argue against sterns opinion, I'm of course just his opposite in terms of fanaticism. His opinions are valid and necessary, though I think he is reprehensible.

GhostFox does a good job of sitting on the fence, he usually presents coherant and logical arguments.