VU Games slapped with lawsuit

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Knowledge Adventure programmer steps forward, accuses VUG of violating California labor laws.
Since at least June of 2000, Vivendi Universal managers have demanded that programmers make false entries to their time sheets, obfuscate their real hours on the job, and leave no trace of time spent working on weekends. The result: A ton of cash bound for the pockets of hard-working programmers stayed in the Vivendi Universal Games coffers.

That, at least, is what current Knowledge Adventure employee Neil Aitken has stated in legal documents filed Monday with the Los Angeles County Superior Court.

The complaint, Neil Aitken vs. Vivendi Universal Games, is seeking those back wages. In addition, the complaint seeks to establish a class action that will allow all deserving VU Games employees to "recover overtime wages and civil penalties" owed them. The complaint asks the court for a jury trial to hear arguments.

Aitken's attorney, Allen Graves, says the law is clear on the subject of overtime due to full-time employees classified as computer programmers. Graves said that if an employee makes less than the equivalent of $44.63 an hour, all hours worked over 40 per week are to be paid at a rate equal to 150 percent the usual wage. The complaint says that since at least 2000, VU has failed to pay overtime to all programmers who qualified for it.

More damning, however, are the alleged tactics taken by VU Games management. The complaint states that VU management "instructed" programmers to make false entries to their weekday time sheets and, furthermore, to falsify records that documented weekend hours worked.

Graves said that employees deserving of overtime "have since 2000, on a number of occasions, approached the company and asked for overtime." He explained that "the answer was some form of no, you're not going to get overtime." Graves says he has yet to hear from VU Games' counsel but is prepared once he does. "Many employees tracked their hours," Graves said today.

When contacted today, VU Games staff declined to comment, saying it was company policy not to comment on pending litgation


http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/06/30/news_6101709.html
 
Wow, what a bunch of asshole. I hope they do get sued.
 
Man each day VU is starting to sound like one of those greedy crooked corporations.
 
Even more reason not to buy the retail copy.

**** you Vivendi you pricks.
 
Mr-Fusion said:
Even more reason not to buy the retail copy.

**** you Vivendi you pricks.

Right--screw over VALVE for something VIVENDI did. Unless you are saying buy Steam instead? But we don't know if Valve get's 100% of Steam profits.

Didn't VU dissolve anyway?
 
I said not to buy a retail copy, implying i would buy a copy through steam.

Retail copy = money for vivendi
Steam = all money to valve
 
all businesses are like this cause the big CEO are taught a certain philosphy when they go to buisness school, the basic of the philosphy is to get rich quick even if u have to screw ur workers, and then jump out before anything really bad happens.
 
Mr-Fusion said:
I said not to buy a retail copy, implying i would buy a copy through steam.

Retail copy = money for vivendi
Steam = all money to valve

If that did happen where Steam had the majority of sales, VU would probably try to sue VALVe for making them have low profits.
 
well i'll still buy retail , because i like to have an actual box and cd.
 
on another lawsuit; does anyone know how the one about valve sueing that cheating network ended up? or is it still going
 
really lawsuits go out against companys all the time, like at the main postal distribtuion center here in columbus, 30-40 managers were changing thier time clocks so they would get more money.
 
yea VU is a pretty dirty company, yea because of them sierra is gone, 3 top guys at blizzard left. blizzard hasn't come out with a great title in forever. but ita not gonna keep me from getting my HL2 box dammit!!
 
that figures. HL2 gets mixed up in an enron deal. Of all the irony and misfortune. And if VU EVER sues Valve, we got our crowbars and we know how to use'em, right?
 
Hope this dosent make hl2 look bad... steam all the way...
 
Dedatorv said:
If that did happen where Steam had the majority of sales, VU would probably try to sue VALVe for making them have low profits.

Yeah, and I heard Pepsi is suing Coke because they "made them have low profits" :rolleyes:

It's called competition, thats what capitalism is based on.
 
I'd be surprised if Pepsi and Coke had contracts stating that they can't do that, though. Wouldn't you?
 
Have you read the contract between Valve and Vivendi?



....didn't think so.
 
If you guys were the jury VU would be in death row, before the court case.

We haven't heard VU's side, only the word of 1 programmer.... could be a disgruntled employee that is concerned for his job after the Sierra layoff. If his alegations were true why wait for nearly 4 years before doing something, he said this has been going on since 2000.

This lot sounds like a lawyer pushed the programmer into starting a class action, so the lawyer can get a sizable slice of any funds forthcoming.

/me calls VU to the stand....
 
Mr-Fusion said:
Retail copy = money for vivendi
Steam = all money to valve

i doubt thats entirely true.
i don't think Vivendi would be stupid enough not to include a clause involving Steam.. it would be smart business practice to have some tie-in with Steam sales.

it could happen tho.. nothing is impossible.. but Vivendi would have to be brain dead not to have such a clause.
 
Why would Valve let Vivendi have any money from their steam sales?
 
Vivendi: Hi Valve, can we have 30% of the money generated from your sales through steam

Valve : **** OFF
 
Mr-Fusion said:
Vivendi: Hi Valve, can we have 30% of the money generated from your sales through steam

Valve : **** OFF

Fusion u make it sound that easy... but business is never that easy.
remember way back in 1998 when nobody knew Valve? well i think Vivendi had alot of control on the distribution part of the deal of any Valve products.

back then would be the time a clause such has ur "30%" stuff would be added in.. remember, Valve did not have much power as they were an up and coming company..

oh well.. whatever i don't expect pple here to understand these sort of things.
 
iamaelephant said:
Have you read the contract between Valve and Vivendi?



....didn't think so.

and you are Gabe's attorney. :rolleyes:
 
I'd have to see further into this matter (which I probably won't do as I'm a lazy bum ;)) to state my opinion as I have no proof that either Vivendi or the programmer is lying. I'm still buying the box though.
 
Dr. Freeman said:
i doubt thats entirely true.
i don't think Vivendi would be stupid enough not to include a clause involving Steam.. it would be smart business practice to have some tie-in with Steam sales.

it could happen tho.. nothing is impossible.. but Vivendi would have to be brain dead not to have such a clause.
The clause was written before HL1 was even released, when Steam wasn't so much as a twinkle in Taylor Sherman's eye. Steam is entirely outside the jurisdiction of Vivendi, and they will never have anything to do with it.
 
DEATH TO VU .. DEATH TO VU .. right.. bye
 
man 56kers can't do anything about VU's evilness though, how are we supposed to get HL2 through steam? I can barely get bloody HL1....still waiting...

In fact how the hell can mods be used through steam? You can only get mods if you get them through steam? On top of that if you install HL2 onto your comp will steam do that bent thing where it deletes it to put its own files in?
 
Er, how about innocent till proven guilty?

I mean, we're listening to one lawyers side of the story. Though it sounds very likely, you never know.
 
it's not very likely that a lawsuit would be announced like this unless there was a fairly reasonable grounds to believe it is the case, multi naitonal companies don't tend to just role ove rwhen charged with such things and people doing the charges tend to have to be fairly sure they can succeed because the case shall be neither cheap nor short.
 
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