When Gordon is put in statis...

[RezDude]

Whenever g-man puts him the the black void do you think that the 10 year gap that he was there was instantaneous (meaning the battles on xen and the beginning of Half-Life 2 was only seconds apart to him) or do you think he just sits there in the dark for 10 human years?

 

[bodhi]

to gordon its almost instantaneous. like blinking and suddenly being somewhere else

 

[Solver]

Instant to Gordon. Ever since the day of the resonance cascade, we (HL players) see everything with Gordon's eyes. The blackness at the end of HL lasts for a few seconds, and the blackness in HL2 lasts for a second before the GMan appears. So for Gordon at the start of HL2, it's just like he woke up 3 days ago to head to the test chamber, and now the GMan is talking to him about City 17.

 

[==ROAD=KILL==]

If its instantaneous,why is he all dizzy at the beggining of Half-Life2?
You know."Rise and shine...misssster Freeman..."

 

[NJspeed]

While it probably seems instantaneous.. it seems like there is the atmosphere of time having past. It's probably like when you sleep in the car.. you fall asleep one second, the next thing you know your waking up 6 hours later and your already there. It seems instantaneous to your concious mind, but you know that time has past. At least this is the feeling I've gotten in the game.. I guess since each of us is "Gordon" in our own right.. whatever you think is the case.. is the case.

 

[happymushroom]

For gordon it is like a second passing, in the raising the bar book, they include the orginal start movie, which has the gman and gordon standing on a hilltop, just after he kills the nilianth so normal. then time speeds up, you see the skys darken and the war then you see city 17 and all the people flooding into it and finally the train u start on pulls up next to you, and everyone is frozen in time, then after you enter time starts up again. this start shows the 10 years in a few seconds.

also the gman says. "10 years is a long time, long enought to forget what fresh air tastes like. but to you mr freeman, that seems like only yesterday."

just my input. lol

 

[Carini]

Not only what the Happymushroom said, but also when Gordon meets up with Eli for the first time he says something to the effect that Gordon doesn't look like he's changed at all since Black Mesa.

 

[happymushroom]

Thats a good point

and if thats what happened
then you dont age much in 3 days
lol

 

[NJspeed]

I kind of disagree, I don't think its like a split second passing. I'm sure after the stasis he could tell it's been more than a second. For one, all his wounds have been healed and he would definately be feeling refreshed. At the end of HL1 your all beat up from the crazy mission you've just been on, and the huge battle you just had in Xen. He no longer has his suit on either. While it may seem like a second or two to his conciousness, I'm sure he has the "feeling" in his bones of time having past. Just like I used the car analogy. When your a kid and you fall asleep right when you leave your house, you wake up 4 hours later, and abracadabra, your at grandmas... it seems like a split second to your concious mind. But you "feel" different. You "feel" that time has past. If he didn't somehow "know" that time had past.. wouldn't Gordon be flipping the hell out like "WTF just happened to me!!" when he's on the train and in the trainstation? I think it's obvious that some time had past. Even G-man says so, that alone combined with feeling refreshed and in different clothes and in a different environment would let you "feel" that more time has passed than your concious mind registers. Then again I could be completely wrong, but THIS Gordon knew that time past and he was no longer in Kansas.. I see what you say about the original start movie in Raising the Bar, but just like all the other stuff they cut out, it doesn't apply..

 

[Pai-Mei]

Its obvious that Gordon was waiting for HL2. HE had no clue that a HL2 was coming, though, until about a year and a half before it came out. First, the G-Man said that he would be awaken on Spet. 30th. Then, it never came. And Gordon was waiting, and waiting. And the, unexpectedly, he was released into the HL2 environment.
:E

 

[Angry Lawyer]

If you were fully concious, but stuck in a tram in space, for ten years without human contact, you'd be insane by the end of it.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[NJspeed]

Its obvious that Gordon was waiting for HL2. HE had no clue that a HL2 was coming, though, until about a year and a half before it came out. First, the G-Man said that he would be awaken on Spet. 30th. Then, it never came. And Gordon was waiting, and waiting. And the, unexpectedly, he was released into the HL2 environment.
:E

Exactly I think theres a little Gordon in all of us. We're all our own Gordon to some extent or another. That's why I don't think theres a definitive answer for so many things.. everyone has their own opinions, and since we're all Gordon, their all right.

Did that make sense?

 

[FireCrack]

Well, it is a slow time warp, never says instant time warp or anything.

Thew ime passage could have been seconds, minutes, hours, or ewven days for gordon.

One of those mysteries we'l never know.

 

[happymushroom]

True well never know



unless its explained in hl3. lol

 

[Jus]

I'm just kind of freaked out that the Gman has seen Gordon's shlong. Someone had to change him into his civs!

 

[Blakeb155]

If Gordon Freeman was put in a slow time warp that lasted a split second to him, that would be kind of weird. The g-man says "Nicely done, I will see you up ahead" A split second later his waking you up.

 

[FireCrack]

gordon hasn'y learned how to change clothes yet, except his hazzard suit.

 

[kelvin]

Well, it is a slow time warp, never says instant time warp or anything.

Thew ime passage could have been seconds, minutes, hours, or ewven days for gordon.

One of those mysteries we'l never know.

njspeed is the closest

when you and alyx teleport out of nova prospekt into kleiners lab, he opens the door and tells you that it was 'over a week ago', but it took no longer to us then normal time passing. plus alyx says "we were just there a few moments ago', kleiner replies that it must have been a slow teleport.

so basing off this, it seems to be instantaneous--without any memory of the time between

 

[f|uke]

njspeed is the closest

when you and alyx teleport out of nova prospekt into kleiners lab, he opens the door and tells you that it was 'over a week ago', but it took no longer to us then normal time passing. plus alyx says "we were just there a few moments ago', kleiner replies that it must have been a slow teleport.

so basing off this, it seems to be instantaneous--without any memory of the time between

njspeed is saying that there is some sensation of time passing,. so I dont know what youre on about.

njspeed is not basing his argument on our collective experience, but instead his personal perception of what happened. Argument based on nothing.

Going into stasis is disorenting. But its clearly that Freeman has not aged at all. 10 years has not passed for Freeman. Its as if HL1 just ended and HL2 began,. just like the philosophy of the individual games, that is the philosophy of the entire series: one continuous stream of consioucness (minus a few blackouts).

 

[NimChimpsky]

What about the hazard suit? You have to put it on when you get to the lab, so it was taken off, but was it on at the end of half-life 1? I think I remember the HUD in the closing sequence, but maybe that was just something that vavle didn't think of.

 

[f|uke]

What about the hazard suit? You have to put it on when you get to the lab, so it was taken off, but was it on at the end of half-life 1? I think I remember the HUD in the closing sequence, but maybe that was just something that vavle didn't think of.

It was on through to the end of the game,. so it must have been removed while Gordon was in stasis.

 

[Jintor]

Someone undressing Gordon? Eww....

(Sorry, i had to say it)

Anyway, I agree with the "Kinda like falling asleep thing", because that's how it would feel like to me. Although passing out because of shock seems to be different to Gman's stasis (Remember the beginning?)

 

[rpgprog]

Since this is a game, and games are like movies, no time has passed unless there is text on the screen that says "10 years later" or the ilk. So to gordon no time has passed

 

[Tantalus]

If its instantaneous,why is he all dizzy at the beggining of Half-Life2?
You know."Rise and shine...misssster Freeman..."

He never said it was instantatneous. He said it SEEMED instantatnious.

 

[FireCrack]

I wonder if at the start of HL2 gordon is runnig around in hos lab coat and everyone else has the plain blue clothes.

 

[happymushroom]

I wonder if at the start of HL2 gordon is runnig around in hos lab coat and everyone else has the plain blue clothes.

nah surely the gman has thought of that, and gordon ends up wearing the civies.

question: what would happen if, the metro cops turn and look at the train pulling in. see a load of depressed citizens getting off, and one confused man in an orange HEV suit. what would they do????

just a thought lol

Edit: hey im a zombie now!!! :E
yeay!!!! lol

 

[Trav]

I'm assuming he was in just normal clothes (you know, jeans, a tee-shirt and a beanie hat)

 

[NJspeed]

Here's proof for what I've been saying previously.

The Gmans first words are "Wake up Mr. Freeman, wake up.." while Gordon's vision clears and the Gman slowly comes into view.. I think it's obvious to Gordon he's been sleeping or whatever you want to call it.

 

[Planeforger]

when you and alyx teleport out of nova prospekt into kleiners lab, he opens the door and tells you that it was 'over a week ago', but it took no longer to us then normal time passing. plus alyx says "we were just there a few moments ago', kleiner replies that it must have been a slow teleport.

That was one bit of the game where the game would only make sence to players with fast computers. e.g: players playing on fast computers would be like "hey, we were only there a few moments ago!", and players with slow computers would be like "wtf are you talking about Alyx? we were there a week ago". Who knew Valve had placed unintentional alternate plots in their game?

 

[Great Grizzly]

LOL ya, it would seem like a week on those old comps LOL