4 US soldiers charged with drowning Iraqi

[CptStern]

this is pretty sick...the only crime these iraqis were guilty of was breaking curfew.

Iraq: Going to hell in a handbasket

they have been charged with manslaughter, but may only get a slap on the wrist because trial is by military tribunal. If they want to make a precedent they'd throw the book at these guys. Unforetunately since the US doesnt recognise the International war crimes tribunal, they'll never be charged with war crimes, that would give a much stiffer penalty than a military tribunal would...they may just be court martialed

 

[clarky003]

why dont they put this on TV ? lol... all I hear about on TV is Iraqi's doing the damage.

I feel its so one sided sometimes,

Democracy is right, and everything the war is for. is for good..?, and improving Economical developement... etc etc ,

 

[Adrien C]

Dumb asses
I feel sorry for the US soldiers, it's not even their war.

 

[CptStern]

you feel sorry for the US soldiers?????????? what is wrong with you? they drowned one person and nearly drowned another...for nothing!!

 

[Lil' Timmy]

i think adrien was speaking in general terms

 

[Adrien C]

Yes, really, imagine having the fear that every person or car near you could blow up.
That is not war, I call that pussy war.

 

[CptStern]

yes but these guys were having fun...they werent scared

btw just realised you were speaking in general terms sorry

 

[Lil' Timmy]

Yes, really, imagine having the fear that every person or car near you could blow up.
That is not war, I call that pussy war.

lol, what an odd term.. is that french thing? most people would call it a guerilla war, which is in fact what it is.. nothing new really. in many ways soldiers in vietnam faced the same fears. i imagine it's always a factor when one is fighting an occupational war.

 

[ShadowFox]

Go over there and experience a year of war and then you have the right to criticize them.

I certainly don't support their actions, but I can't complain about it since I haven't been subjected to their conditions. Blame the tribunal all you want though.

 

[CptStern]

well I can blame them ...there is no excuse for killing a prisoner

 

[Adrien C]

No problem man.

The only way to keep people in line, is to do like the Nazis, is an un-orthodox way, if you find guilty Mohamed, then you kill his brothers, father, cousins and brother in law.
Is the only way the Nazi prevented it to happend to them, Fight terror with terror.

 

[Voodoo_Chile]

A report by Lt. Gen. Paul Mikolashek, the Army's inspector general, criticized Army policies on prisoner operations as a throwback to the Cold War and designed to handle Soviet prisoners in a European war rather than the radical Islamic guerrillas now being confronted, a senior Army official said.

:O :O :O :O What the hell did they plan to do to the Russians?
And thus communist Guerrillas in a European war.If this is what we are seeing had they planed to treat communists this badly and thought it would never get out as the only people in a position to notice would be collapseing under the Soviet steamroller.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

yeah.. don't condemn people for wrote murder until you've walked a mile in their shoes . same with the insugent beheadings.. you can't criticize them until you fight their fight, right?

Voodoo_Chile, i found that odd too..


edit: lol @ adrien, godwin's law in effect!

 

[Sprafa]

It's War made by dumbasses.

I'm really in the mood of bashing America, so don't get me started.....

 

[kidrock450]

i feel a lot worse for the US soldiers then the Iraqies. You see any Iraqies getting there heads cut off by U.S soldiers and having the video sent back to there family? I say damn the Iraqies.

 

[clarky003]

Go over there and experience a year of war and then you have the right to criticize them.

I certainly don't support their actions, but I can't complain about it since I haven't been subjected to their conditions. Blame the tribunal all you want though.

I agree Shadowfox,, its still horrible to hear people behaving like this to one another though , whichever side your on.. its totally pointless. at what price of life and cost of resource will this war eventually tot up to..?

a never ending official war against terror, when you think about it going that way, (as it is), suddenly those in the White house making the decisions, or whoever it is driving these events forward, dont seem so Sane anymore

 

[kidrock450]

http://urbanlegends.about.com/libra...ck_pershing.htm

Call me cruel but we need some more Black Jack Generals...

 

[clarky003]

'We're Sorry Our President Is an Idiot'
Word on the street has it that tote bags and laptop cases manufactured by an American company named Tom Bihn carry a secret message written in French on the product label: "Nous sommes desoles que notre president soit un idiot. Nous n'avons pas vote pour lui." Translation: "We are sorry that our president is an idiot. We did not vote for him."

hehe, thats talkin sense right there.

 

[Sprafa]

i feel a lot worse for the US soldiers then the Iraqies. You see any Iraqies getting there heads cut off by U.S soldiers and having the video sent back to there family? I say damn the Iraqies.

Ok, so what about the videos on hundreds of Iraqis being tortured?

that doesn't count I guess.....

 

[clarky003]

Sprafa, dont argue , weve been through that 100 times before, lets have a laugh and a giggle about it, even though its serious, getting all cross about it isnt going to help anything.

 

[smwScott]

It's quite obvious that the Iraqi's are guilty of a lot more atrocities than US soldiers, but there are still some bad apples in our armed forces. The drowning incident was stupid, ignorant, and reckless - they will and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The same goes for those involved in the prison torture scandal. Do you think the assholes who beheaded innocent people from Turkey, Korea, and America are going to get punished by their people? Of course not.

There's no question that the beheadings are infinitely worse than the isolated incidents that occur among US soldiers. Our side condemns these acts and punishes those responsible, while they are cheered as hero's fighting back against the infidels.

As far as us being over there, it is and always was a mistake. But you're damn ignorant if you think our soldiers are comparable to the terrorist insurgents in Iraq.

 

[gh0st]

It's quite obvious that the Iraqi's are guilty of a lot more atrocities than US soldiers, but there are still some bad apples in our armed forces. The drowning incident was stupid, ignorant, and reckless - they will and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. The same goes for those involved in the prison torture scandal. Do you think the assholes who beheaded innocent people from Turkey, Korea, and America are going to get punished by their people? Of course not.

yeah. honestly the whole america bashing thing is getting old. they dont give a rats ass about innocent people being beheaded, but boy does it get them riled up when prisoners of war/criminals have to take their clothes off. they call it "torture". they are the most hypocritical, stupid group of people on earth.

 

[Dedalus]

they are the most hypocritical, stupid group of people on earth.

heh, anyone else see the irony here..

 

[gh0st]

im sure plenty of the people im talking about do. theres an abundance around here.

 

[clarky003]

its not the American peoples fault, the majority of them didnt even vote for Bushy Bush Bush.

(yes that was a reference to him being some kind of infant, , or was that his puppet name..? one question.. whos pulling the strings?)

 

[Lil' Timmy]

whos pulling the strings?

me. charrrs

 

[gh0st]

fault? if your speaking of the iraq war, blair was all for it too. i dont see why blair gets any more benefit of the doubt than "bushy bush bush" which was cleverly referenced to him being a 58 year old man who graduated from a prestigeous university. interesting.

 

[CptStern]

3 dozen iraqi prisoners have died in US custody...countless more have died in the field under suspiscious circumstances

 

[gh0st]

3 dozen iraqi prisoners have died in US custody...countless more have died in the field under suspiscious circumstances

oh.. OH MY GOD! 3. 3... DOZEN?! while that is indeed unfortunate im willing to bet that at LEAST 4(0000) dozen were killed under saddams custody. yeah but ignore the mass genocide of his people, we killed 3 dozen. lets lynch some american soldiers!

 

[Lil' Timmy]

absolutely blair is as much to blame as bush for this ill-conceived war.

But you're damn ignorant if you think our soldiers are comparable to the terrorist insurgents in Iraq.

are you speaking in general terms? because no one else was (well, besides adrien).. certainly i consider one cold-blooded murderer to be as bad as the next. does that make me ignorant? oh noes!

edit:

oh.. OH MY GOD! 3. 3... DOZEN?! while that is indeed unfortunate im willing to bet that at LEAST 4(0000) dozen were killed under saddams custody. yeah but ignore the mass genocide of his people, we killed 3 dozen. lets lynch some american soldiers!

hey i hear there's a bunch of killing going on in the sudan, what say we fly over there and start killing people too? i want to get my murder on before the bodies run out!! if they're killing each other we can kill them too right?

 

[clarky003]

me. charrrs

lol,, :rolling: hehe :E

 

[Champ]

yeah. honestly the whole america bashing thing is getting old. they dont give a rats ass about innocent people being beheaded, but boy does it get them riled up when prisoners of war/criminals have to take their clothes off. they call it "torture". they are the most hypocritical, stupid group of people on earth.

I hate to start an argument, but who said we give "a rats ass" about the civilians getting beheaded? I think the fanatic sons of bitches should have the same treatment, but really, the same goes for those US Soldiers in the article. They're nearly just as bad.
As soon as the fellas who's supposed to be the good guys does something like this, you go on about how we don't give a shit about innocent people getting beheaded. It's simply not true. But the topic is about a couple US Soldiers drowning an Iraqi prisoner for a minor offense. The topic is NOT about civilian workers getting beheaded. Simple as that, so cut your whining and start threads like this yourself when the next civ gets executed (although let's pray to God that doesn't happen!)

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

It's War made by dumbasses.

I'm really in the mood of bashing America, so don't get me started.....

You bash America, you win a nice trip off this site for a long time who you think hosts this site??

 

[gh0st]

I hate to start an argument, but who said we give "a rats ass" about the civilians getting beheaded? I think the fanatic sons of bitches should have the same treatment, but really, the same goes for those US Soldiers in the article. They're nearly just as bad.
As soon as the fellas who's supposed to be the good guys does something like this, you go on about how we don't give a shit about innocent people getting beheaded. It's simply not true. But the topic is about a couple US Soldiers drowning an Iraqi prisoner for a minor offense. The topic is NOT about civilian workers getting beheaded. Simple as that, so cut your whining and start threads like this yourself when the next civ gets executed (although let's pray to God that doesn't happen!)

no. im talking about the anti-us fanboys who bash bash bash every chance they get

 

[Lil' Timmy]

You bash America, you win a nice trip off this site for a long time

damn.. are you one of those sneaky stealth-mods or something? plz don't ban me!

 

[Cybernoid]

More US military madness.

 

[Cybernoid]

You bash America, you win a nice trip off this site for a long time who you think hosts this site??

Well, I'm fairly certain it's not hosted by a hillbilly retard with anger management issues.

 

[Javert]

Perhaps the question is: WHY (of all punishments), the Iraqis were told to jump into a river for breaking curfew???
Jumping....into a river......
No arrests, no jail, no fines, no seizure of property, no physical punishment in the form of lashes or execution...but jumping into a river...
God Bless America. :|

 

[Cybernoid]

Perhaps the question is: WHY (of all punishments), the Iraqis were told to jump into a river for breaking curfew???
Jumping....into a river......
No arrests, no jail, no fines, no seizure of property, no physical punishment in the form of lashes or execution...but jumping into a river...
God Bless America. :|

Probably for fun. It happens all the time in war.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

More US military madness.

well, i'd hope that everyone is aware of the problems within the US military, but we should be careful not to generalize about all soldiers? a good friend of mine is basra right now (he's british military), and i know he's a very decent guy, most soldiers probably are.