Ai

[SilentWraith]

In my personal opinion, the citizen's or "squad" are complete f***ing retards. I mean it's almost as bad as Doom 3's monster AI. The guy has a rocket launcher, and shoots it at a metal link fence that is less than 2 feet in front of him. Also, they dumbasses just run out under the strider and die EVERY TIME, i try all I can, and they just ****in run out. Even worse, when the strider is looking away, they ****ing shoot it and it kills us all!

Everything else about HL2 is 10/10, the Ally AI is a 3/10. I can't believe people say it has supurb AI over Doom3!

 

[koopa]

Well the NPC are pretty dumb, but then again they didn't go to MIT like Gordon did. It does have better AI than Doom3 (for me), but then again Doom3 had hideous AI as you say.

 

[m00b]

OMFG did I get annoyed by that squad AI!!!! WTF? I tell them go there they go and after a few seconds come back!!!! When I send them somewhere I want them to STAY there untill i tell them to follow! Wtf is wrong with Valve programmers? Also why cant I split the team in two groups so we can have an actual tactical operation squad not just bunch of n00b warriors?

It's one and only thing that annoys me in HL2. Everything else is great, but they could have learned a bit from UT2k4 about Squad AI.

 

[destrukt]

Well the NPC are pretty dumb, but then again they didn't go to MIT like Gordon did.

that has nothing to do with the ai .. i hope your joking.

 

[Gray Fox]

Thats is the main reason I hate the chapters they are in.

 

[Beserker]

Oh well, it's still a perfect game. And that MIT really is important. I mean, Gordon knows how to push buttons with style, that's gotta mean something. I bet those citizens can't push buttons as well as Gordon can.

 

[Jesus]

The AI didn't bother me. Follow Freeman etc were my favourite chapters.

 

[Ultimape]

just kill them

 

[Maui]

Also why cant I split the team in two groups so we can have an actual tactical operation squad not just bunch of n00b warriors?

That's the idea though. These aren't highly trained soldiers, or even militiamen. They're just downtrodden citizens who couldn't take it anymore from the Combine, and got some guns and started shooting. Chances are the only reason they can aim for crap is that they've already been fighting for a week by the time you arrive on the scene.

 

[HadouKen24]

Yeah, the friendly AI needed some work. The only thing about it that really annoyed me was the fact that they don't stay put when you tell them to. They don't have the skills to rush the combines manning gun turrets. I do. I want them to stay out of the way so they stay alive, and can come help me later with something easy like manhacks.

Although, I guess having to struggle to keep your squadmates alive is something that a real Gordon Freeman would have to worry about quite a bit in a situation like that.

 

[MajorPayne]

The squad AI did not bother me, I actually felt sorry for the poor folks, since they were such meat. I mean, all they wanted was some damn cheeze, and to breed, and they kept getting killed right and left trying to take out striders/combine.

I remember particularly when I had a group of followers, and I screwed up, and ran ahead to shoot some combine, and one of the combine lobbed a grenade right into the middle of my cluster of guys (and 1 gal). They were back to back shooting at stuff, when one noticed the 'nade, and shouted about it, and they all looked at it for 1 short second, then they looked at me (as if to say -- "gee, glad we followed you, Gordon, you great rebellion leader you"), and all tried to run away in different directions, but it was too late. The 'nade went off just a couple of feet from them, and all died horribly, thrown in all directions (while I managed to escape -- bastard me). I just kept remembering them all looking at me before they died, and thinking that I am really glad I did not go into the army (or other branch) where i might have to lead real people anywhere.

Spoiler

I also felt bad for the combine I killed later when in the citadel, you see some poor bastard halfway through his augmentation into combine, scrawny, wired up, and fighting for his life to get away, but to no avail. It made me realize that many of the combine I had been happily toasting had once been human resistance fighters too, until they went through the combine process. DAMN I was happy to take out Breen after that!

So yes, the AI is not perfect, but it is good enough to make you feel for the characters, which I have NOT done with any other game EVER. Like HL2 itself, it is not perfect, but it is light years ahead of what anyone else has going on.

 

[noQ]

just kill them

how do you kill them ,except sending them to a big bunch of overwatch soldiers.ONLY way I found to kill the friendlies was to "pull their soul out" with the blue gravity gun ,and then shoot the ragdoll really high and when it fell on a friendly, then he would vaporize. :x

 

[HadouKen24]

I remember particularly when I had a group of followers, and I screwed up, and ran ahead to shoot some combine, and one of the combine lobbed a grenade right into the middle of my cluster of guys (and 1 gal). They were back to back shooting at stuff, when one noticed the 'nade, and shouted about it, and they all looked at it for 1 short second, then they looked at me (as if to say -- "gee, glad we followed you, Gordon, you great rebellion leader you"), and all tried to run away in different directions, but it was too late. The 'nade went off just a couple of feet from them, and all died horribly, thrown in all directions (while I managed to escape -- bastard me). I just kept remembering them all looking at me before they died, and thinking that I am really glad I did not go into the army (or other branch) where i might have to lead real people anywhere.

Yeah, that kind of thing happened to me a lot. Eventually, I was able to drill it into my reflexes to switch to the gravity gun really quick and either pick that thing up and lob it back at them, or just blast it far enough away to be harmless.

 

[MajorPayne]

Yeah, that kind of thing happened to me a lot. Eventually, I was able to drill it into my reflexes to switch to the gravity gun really quick and either pick that thing up and lob it back at them, or just blast it far enough away to be harmless.

Crap, I was never quick enough to do this (although I did manage to include myself in the list of those who got asploded when I tried to grab a grenade a few times). I eventually gave up, and still just run from them.

 

[lonestar]

just kill them

aaaaallllright! .... :dozey:

LOL

 

[ThrasherX9]

I think they're alright. Never bothered me, they stay put when I tell 'em, they don't die too often (I mean, they are Canon Foder). But they do the job for me, I enjoy having them fight with me and I even count on them once in a while to save my butt.

 

[The Monkey]

It's still amazing that 4 unarmoured rebells can take out 5 highly trained soldiers. On normal at least.