Breen knows Gman?

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Well I recently replayed Half-Life 2, I remember Dr. Breen saying "your contract is open to the highest bidder". Didnt think much of it until I heard the G-man say at the end of the game that he has gotten some pretty high offers for Gordon's contract. Coincidence? Cant say for sure. After all, it is Half Life.

Also on a side note, I am also wondering that if Alyx dies, if Gordon will try and make a deal with the Gman to bring her back to life in exange for his services.

 

[Garbel]

Dr.Breen knows about G-Man and Gordon, otherwise he wouldn't say what he said. And the last thing you said, i don't think so

 

[UltimaApocalypse]

Played Episode 1 yet?

 

[Eejit]

Breen may know of the Gman but not know him personally.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Played Episode 1 yet?

Me? Yes I have.

 

[Black Op]

Breen would have been aware of the G-Man's mere existance ever since his day as Black Mesa's Administrator, as G-Man would have served under Breen. Otherwise G-Man wouldn't have bothered with a briefcase with the Black Mesa logo on it, nor would he'd be able to travel through the BMRF with relative impunity, or even make arrangements with the military on Black Mesa's behalf. However Breen himself would have been unable to learn the Truth until he fell in with the Universial Union.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

What proof do you have that Gman worked for Mr Breen, because I highly dout that.

 

[MorganFreeman911]

What proof do you have that Gman worked for Mr Breen, because I highly dout that.

Agreed.

 

[Black Op]

Well the G-Man may not have been under Breen's direct employ, I'll give you that. However the two would have been in contact with each other in order for G-Man to get around the BMRF the way he does, both before and after the Incident. Whether or not this meant G-Man served under Breen or rather acted as some representative for the US government question can still be debated, but clearly G-Man was able to infiltrate one of these two organizations on behalf of his true Employers.

 

[ríomhaire]

"I have good reason to believe that in the intervening years he was in a state that precluded further development of covert skills"

 

[Eejit]

Breen would have been aware of the G-Man's mere existance ever since his day as Black Mesa's Administrator, as G-Man would have served under Breen. Otherwise G-Man wouldn't have bothered with a briefcase with the Black Mesa logo on it, nor would he'd be able to travel through the BMRF with relative impunity, or even make arrangements with the military on Black Mesa's behalf. However Breen himself would have been unable to learn the Truth until he fell in with the Universial Union.

Yeah or maybe he just passed himself off as a Goverment official/BM honcho by LYING.

 

[99.vikram]

Yeah or maybe he just passed himself off as a Goverment official/BM honcho by LYING.

Come on, Eejit.

We all know that the Gman (being an interdimensional hero pimp) always wanted to become an inspector at Black Mesa, a pathetic little facility on earth.

 

[Black Op]

Yeah or maybe he just passed himself off as a Goverment official/BM honcho by LYING.

I doubt mere lying would have gotten G-Man past Black Mesa's front door without being caught by security. More likely, he made contacts within the U.S. Government/Black Mesa Administration who would ensure that he recieved clearance to travel through all of Black Mesa.

 

[ríomhaire]

"Er...yessssss I am from the gov-urn-mont...yesssss, the govurnmont. Now bring me to the tesssssssssst chamberrrrrrrr"

 

[Asknoone]

Breen and the Combine are well aware of Gordon's role and quite what he plays.

I think G-man passed himself off as a Government official, but I don't think at any point he was associated with them - or had contacts. He's a man of many abilities (not including time-stopping, because he can't ).

 

[AJ Rimmer]

"Er...yessssss I am from the gov-urn-mont...yesssss, the govurnmont. Now bring me to the tesssssssssst chamberrrrrrrr"

You know what? I seriously don't think people would notice anything odd about him if he said he was with the government.

 

[RioBravoXL]

He's a man of many abilities (not including time-stopping, because he can't ).

So what is exactly happening when he arrives at the end of Half Life 2 and removes Freeman to put him back into stasis?

 

[MorganFreeman911]

He alters GORDONS' PERCEPTION of time.

 

[Asknoone]

Yeah, or something along those lines.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

Time is reletive to nothing, except the observer. With that in mind it would not be hard to believe that Gman made Gordon (And himself) move at very high speeds (Very high, close to or at c), that would give the impression of time being stopped to the observer (Gordon). So, reletive to Gordon and Gman, time was stopped.

 

[Eejit]

I doubt mere lying would have gotten G-Man past Black Mesa's front door without being caught by security. More likely, he made contacts within the U.S. Government/Black Mesa Administration who would ensure that he recieved clearance to travel through all of Black Mesa.

And clearly an alien with his powers would be completely incapable of forging documents/I.D. or having some forged.

Oh and personally I don't consider it impossible for the G-man to stop time. Maybe he can, maybe he can't. But with his manipulations of teleportation and stasis it's hard to eliminate as a possibility imo.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

As I said, he did stop time in the eyes of Gordon, which according to Special Reletivity, makes his measurment valid.

 

[Sufferin-rebel]

Maybe G-man is like Doctor who

 

[RioBravoXL]

Time is reletive to nothing, except the observer. With that in mind it would not be hard to believe that Gman made Gordon (And himself) move at very high speeds (Very high, close to or at c), that would give the impression of time being stopped to the observer (Gordon). So, reletive to Gordon and Gman, time was stopped.

I'm still confused.

How does the G-Man make it appear as if they are not moving if they are traveling at speeds close to light?

In a related question, how do the Vortigaunts take Freeman from G-Man? I remember in the very opening of Episode One, the players perspective is at the bottom of the citadel and zooms back to the top. Assuming the player is witnessing events from Gordon's point of view, what is happening? Is he being transported back in time so that the vortigaunts can intercept him?

GRAAGH! The most confusing intro to a game EVER!

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

When you move fast, time around you seems to slow. The effecs are only noticable at very high speeds. If you were going 99.999... the speed of light, time would appear to have stopped around you, but for you time would be normal.

 

[ríomhaire]

So what is exactly happening when he arrives at the end of Half Life 2 and removes Freeman to put him back into stasis?

 

[Black Op]

And clearly an alien with his powers would be completely incapable of forging documents/I.D. or having some forged.

All it would take is one call to the agency G-Man claimed to be with and he'd be caught. I would think the most risk-free method G-Man could have used
was either to gain lackeys on Earth (ie. those G-Man doesn't find true interest in, but uses them to carry out his will), or merely dispose of one person who's already high-ranking and assume that person's form.

 

[Asknoone]

Godlike.

 

[Eejit]

Godlike... heh, reminds me of the "flatworld" story. Where a being with a 3rd dimension appeared godlike to a '2D' being.
*cough?*

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

All it would take is one call to the agency G-Man claimed to be with and he'd be caught. I would think the most risk-free method G-Man could have used
was either to gain lackeys on Earth (ie. those G-Man doesn't find true interest in, but uses them to carry out his will), or merely dispose of one person who's already high-ranking and assume that person's form.

Oh hi Gabe, how are things over at Valve?

 

[ríomhaire]

The g-man is Marc Laidlaw trying to write the story, Gearbox is the Vortigaunts screwing him over.

 

[99.vikram]

The g-man is Marc Laidlaw trying to write the story, Gearbox is the Vortigaunts screwing him over.

You've got it all wrong
Vorts > Gman
Laidlaw > Gearbox

 

[Eejit]

Nope, Samon is correct.
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[Dr. Zoidberg]

I bet Gearbox had to get the game Valve approved inorder for it to be released.

 

[Asknoone]

Nope, Samon is correct.
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[Walter]

Adrian Shephard rocks! I bet we'll see him in the future allright, don't you make fun of him...He will accomplish his first mission afterall...mwuahaha.
He is now G-mans another weapon of bidding, or maybe even his new tool in recapturing Gordon. But that's for Marc Laidlaw to write :hmph: .

In the meanTIME , what was it i wanted to say....oh yesss!

I'm not in liberty to sssay...

 

[Azner]

Sadly ill just follow whadever Samon says in this thread... anyways breen did not nesscarily have to know G-man to let Gman into BMRF

 

[Planeforger]

All it would take is one call to the agency G-Man claimed to be with and he'd be caught. I would think the most risk-free method G-Man could have used
was either to gain lackeys on Earth (ie. those G-Man doesn't find true interest in, but uses them to carry out his will), or merely dispose of one person who's already high-ranking and assume that person's form.

See, I'm thinking that the Gman, as we know him, could possibly be just a 'host body' for a Combine ambassador. Or any other species, really.
Taking an important government agent as a body would give him access to BM.

 

[hot564231]

i still have a thought in my head that the g-man projects a False image of him self on who ever looks at him, so he may not look like g-man to the ciz's of C17, he could look like a leader of a band of rebels to them, and thats why you don't hear, hey who's that odd man, and use's the g-man look for those who he thinks are best suited to his needs

hell for all we know, this is all a dream and gordon needs to get ready for work soon and he having a piss poor hang over after barney gave him all those beer's

 

[Revenge]

i still have a thought in my head that the g-man projects a False image of him self on who ever looks at him, so he may not look like g-man to the ciz's of C17, he could look like a leader of a band of rebels to them, and thats why you don't hear, hey who's that odd man, and use's the g-man look for those who he thinks are best suited to his needs

hell for all we know, this is all a dream and gordon needs to get ready for work soon and he having a piss poor hang over after barney gave him all those beer's

Ooh, I like that line of thinking.

You know, I think some people can't even see him at all. And it's not like he really needs documentation to get anywhere... He can either teleport or astrally project himself, doors are meaningless.