Citadels or Citadel?

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What I was wondering is if the Citadel is an exclusive model (meaning, there is only one, especially deployed on City 17 for HQ) or are they made in series (deployed all over the World, with local Admnistrators) ?

What do you guys think ?
 
Citadels

There are many citadels, one in each major city at least, i doubt the entire world could be taken over by a single citadel, big as it is. People rushed into the cities to esacpe the portal storm aliens and then the Citadel's teleport in, after teleporting a huge chunk out of the city first. There is noly one administrator though, City 17 was just the city Breen decided to establish his administration in (as he says.)
 
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You're telling me shit I already know. Portal Storms, The Great Condensation :p

How can you be sure what you're saying ? How can we know there ain't more collaborators that locally admnistrate cities, although with total allegiance to Breen and the Universal Union and that there are more than one Citadels. They don't need dozens of Citadels to take over, City 17 could be the sole Ground Zero.
 
Sprafa said:
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You're telling me shit I already know.
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Grateful you are,

Breen is the Earth admisnitrator, one to each planet, in raising the bar they state that major cities were taken over by the Combine and Citadels were placed in each, the citizens also mention 'City 12' and if there was no Citadel there, the citizens would be free to plot and scheme while the Combine are stuck in City 17.

Also i doubt City 17 is the sole condensation of all humans on Earth:

- ''Oh no, the Aliens are attacking!''
- ''Let's go to New York, it's safer there!''
- ''Nope, we're flying out to the Ukraine''
- ''...?!''
 
The Combine don't need Citadels to make an Army. Look at Nova Prospekt. As I suspected you're giving a tremendous weight to the Citadels.

Anyways, if it's mentioned in Raising the Bar, thank you very much, you've removed all doubts from my mind. That was all I wanted to know. Next time, please, just asnwer the question will ya ?

And as I've said, just because Breen is the Earth Admnistrator, doesn't means they don't have any more collaborating humans/Combine/Transhumans taking charge of some other cities. It's hard for a single man to admnistrate all the cities in the World (even if they are significantly reduced in number).

And where did I say City 17 is the sole condensation of Humans on Earth :borg:
 
You mentioned that City 17 was the sole condesation when you stated that City 17's citadel would have dominion over the entire planet, however this would prove a huge problem for the Combine because of dwindling cheese resources, a hexipedrial split it the hyperfluxouberwarp drive alpha through to omega and i highly doubt the Combine could get the Nacho ray working in time due to a shortage in LCD screens and Chocolate toffee headcrab pudding (yum!) let alone optimise the max net. effeciency so it affects not only City 17, but City 14, 78, 943, 3855389380, and Pi, 5 small goats and a pile of dead pidgeons.

I hope all questions are now well and truly solved.
 
One Citadel. Obvious. The reason C17 is so special, is because it contains the citadel, thats why its the pinnacle of the combine invasion.

Yes, raising the bar says the Citadels appeared, but this was from a very early, VERY early transcript which also included the Air exchange and other entities.

Thats no evidence what so ever. Ultimatley, nobody knows, but most evidence points to one.
 
I apologize for my behavior before but as Samon pointed out, Wilsonator is giving people some probably wrong impressions and acting as a knowall HL god.
 
I say many citadels. Why would the Combine invade Earth through the Baltic? No wonder it was a 7 hour war, they forgot about the rest of the world.
 
I say one Citadel. In Breen's first speech he says something along the lines of "that's why I chose to set up my adminstration here, in the Citadel so thoughtfully provided by our benefactors." He seems to refer to it as if it was something unique and special, which it wouldn't be if there's more than one. Other cities might have smaller Combine fortresses with the same design and function as the Citadel, but none of them with the sheer size. Sort of like comparing the White House to the smaller government buildings in each US state capital.
 
Apocalypse89, that's exacly what I'm talking about. The Combine must've used "alternative" ways of invasion, not just deploying a Citadel into the middle of the cities. They control teleporting after all.
 
I'd say multiple citadels, but the c-17 one is the biggest and baddest.
 
Citadels in all major citys, C17's is the biggest, but it dosn't really mater as they all pierce the cloudline :)
 
I twas thinking...

C-17's the major, the central point, the core systems of the (earthbound) combine if you will. Also, the heart of Breen's administration.

There will be smaller citadels, and yeah they'd probably peirce the cloudline (thanks Jandor!!!), but C-17's is teh majorz0rs.

BTW, that guy muttering in the station... remember him?
"The trains... they're always arriving... but they never leave, they never..."
They're moving people into City-17, but not out of it. Are they trying to get the most rebellious people into one city so they can nuke everyone at once?
 
Jintor said:
I twas thinking...

C-17's the major, the central point, the core systems of the (earthbound) combine if you will. Also, the heart of Breen's administration.

There will be smaller citadels, and yeah they'd probably peirce the cloudline (thanks Jandor!!!), but C-17's is teh majorz0rs.

BTW, that guy muttering in the station... remember him?
"The trains... they're always arriving... but they never leave, they never..."
They're moving people into City-17, but not out of it. Are they trying to get the most rebellious people into one city so they can nuke everyone at once?
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I think he's just gone nuts. He mutters about trains leaving too don't he? And I think they ship lots of people to Nova Prospekt, that's where you were going til Barney saved your arse.
 
Sprafa said:
I apologize for my behavior before but as Samon pointed out, Wilsonator is giving people some probably wrong impressions and acting as a knowall HL god.
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Indeed Sprafa. Wilsonator, don't talk abou the storyline with certainty, because theres a chance your wrong. A big chance, in this case.
 
There are several areas, the citadel being the mightiest of them.

There are these:

Air Exchange
Nova Prospekt
Citadel
multiple Depots
 
fstick said:
There are several areas, the citadel being the mightiest of them.

There are these:

Air Exchange
Nova Prospekt
Citadel
multiple Depots
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I think the air exchange idea was scrapped totally, even from the HL2 mythology. The original idea behind it was that the Combine were reprocessing the atmosphere of Earth with airstations for some unknown purpose, and the air was becoming unbreathable as a result. All citizens, etc were originally envisioned wearing gasmasks because of the toxicity of the air, but since noone wears them in the final game, it seems that the whole atmosphere processing thread, and thus the idea of airstations, was utterly scrapped.
 
No, they didn't. It's just happening slower. That's why Gordon's sprinting is very limited.

On topic: I agree with multiple Citadels, but smaller ones than the City 17 one, which is the MegaMonsterMondoMucho Citadel. :)

-Kato
 
My point being that these outpostes not only serve their purpose but also control the area around them.
 
Dosn't someone mention something about the air in-game?

The early pictures of C17 looked cool, Breen was a bad-ass military guy, it was always raining and dark, and everyone was depressed. It was cool, but they changed it to Breen being a smart guy in a suit, it's always sunny and bright, and people dont look as depressed.


Air Exchange was a cool idea.
so was Weather Control :).

EDIT: I think Air Exchange was kept in the mythology. It aids in putting down resistance, the Combine Soldiers wear gasmasks to filter the air and enable them to work to full capacity, where as any rebels quickly end up out of breath.
Thats why Gordons sprint is so limited and the Rebels always stand about in doorways pissing me off, I mean catching there breath ;)
 
It seemed normal behaviour to me for Gordon to be able to sprint for limited times, he was wearing a HEV suit, who knows how heavy that thing is!?
I remember reading somewhere that the Citadels are used to mine the Earth's resources, which explains the thumping at the base.
 
That HEV suit, heh, you could put a bloody corpse in it and it would save the world :D.
 
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