City 17's Whereabouts *maybe spoiler... dunno*

[zeOx]

I could'nt find any thread about this, so i decided to create one
I have found solid proof that city 17 indeed is in sweden.

summa means sum/amount (of money)
kron is just the name of the money... (like dollars and so on)
volym is how much gas it is
liter.... welll... you can figure that out for yourself

 

[AJ Rimmer]

Nice try, but there are similar stuff from russia, germany, poland and several other countries. And it has been posted before.
Of course only people with minds can ever understand that city 17 must be in the glorious land of sweden, but let's pretend it's not for their sake a little while longer.

 

[zeOx]

nice try?

 

[SFLUFAN]

Sorry mate - it's definitely in a Slavic country because of the preponderance of Cyrillic writing all over City 17.

 

[Chronos]

There are couple of posters on buidings that are made of Cyrillic letters but make no sense.

That's old American techinque to make things look Soviet and therefore scary. I am being a bit Sarcastic, but if you look at cold-war-era movies about soviet technology, they always have those non-latin-looking cyrillic letters on buttons, and some of those letters could not possibly be ever used on the buttons due to language structure and rules, so it just looks scary and alien.

 

[DeusExMachina]

City 17 is just a place in East Europe. Most likely somewhere near the Czech Republic.

 

[zeOx]

Sorry mate - it's definitely in a Slavic country because of the preponderance of Cyrillic writing all over City 17.

then why the hell is that writing in swedish?

 

[AJ Rimmer]

then why the hell is that writing in swedish?

I believe VALVe has some swedish texture artist, no?
Probably just adding his personal touch.

 

[Para]

"summa" is a word that means exactly the same thing in about 20 East-European languages ranging from Hungary to Finnish and it originates from Latin so your assumption is a bit off.

VALVe doesn't have any Swedish texture artists I know of but they have one Finn, Iikka Keränen - the guy behind AirQuake.

 

[AJ Rimmer]

"summa" is a word that means exactly the same thing in about 20 East-European languages ranging from Hungary to Finnish and it originates from Latin so your assumption is a bit off.

VALVe doesn't have any Swedish texture artists I know of but they have one Finn, Iikka Keränen - the guy behind AirQuake.

Well, I can assure you that the words are swedish. Kronor, Liter, Volym and Summa are all swedish words.

 

[Para]

Jag vet, jag har lärat sig svenska för nio år...but thank God I don't have to use the language anymore

Summa means...well, summa in Finnish too. And Norwegian. And I think it's the same for Danish too.

 

[plebs]

City 17 is just a place in East Europe. Most likely somewhere near the Czech Republic.

I doubt its near the czech republic. The "coast" suggests near the black sea or baltic coast I'd have thought. And if its on the Baltic coast, may well explain the scandinavian writing.

 

[AJ Rimmer]

Jag vet, jag har lärat sig svenska för nio år...but thank God I don't have to use the language anymore

Summa means...well, summa in Finnish too. And Norwegian. And I think it's the same for Danish too.

Ahhh... whether or not to bitch about grammar. That is the question. :E

 

[PHATXUIQ]

Good thing they didn't to make it in Russia, I speak russian and read russian. When the Hollywood makes movies of russian letters and style, and their talking is often always wrong. So I am glad I didn't have to suffer the pain of wrong way of implenting the language.

 

[The Monkey]

I laughed my ass of when I saw that. But I don't think City 17 is in Sweden. At least I hope not.

 

[PHATXUIQ]

Ok I said it really wrong LOL. Should of read it before I could post it. What I meant it would of been extemely hard for valve to make a post soviet country were it has russian influence in it. THe way russian use their language is just no where near english. So therefore it hard for english to give it a real Russian feel. So instead they stuck with other language and come other country lol.

 

[Para]

Ahhh... whether or not to bitch about grammar. That is the question. :E

Go ahead - I don't care in every meaning of the word!

 

[Silver Torch]

Good thing they didn't to make it in Russia, I speak russian and read russian. When the Hollywood makes movies of russian letters and style, and their talking is often always wrong. So I am glad I didn't have to suffer the pain of wrong way of implenting the language.

Funny you should say that, b/c I think City 17 is located close to, if not in the region of USSR.

In Ravenwood, when you are running around roof tops, you can see a building in the background, it has big red letters on it that spell out Cement in Russian (although they managed to miss spell it)

Don't have screenies, sorry.

 

[AJ Rimmer]

Funny you should say that, b/c I think City 17 is located close to, if not in the region of USSR.

In Ravenwood, when you are running around roof tops, you can see a building in the background, it has big red letters on it that spell out Cement in Russian (although they managed to miss spell it)

Don't have screenies, sorry.

*cough ravenhonl cough*
Also, isn't Gregori's church an orthodox church?

 

[SFLUFAN]

And Father Gregori is DEFINITELY a Russian Orthodox priest - not a Catholic or Protestant one.

 

[Para]

Speaking of Russian, there's signs and such with cyrillic letter all across the game. If someone understands them could the kind person translate those assuming they aren't just letters but words and such.

As a reward I stop using the idiom "and such"

 

[Bobcat]

Jag vet, jag har lärat sig svenska för nio år...but thank God I don't have to use the language anymore

Summa means...well, summa in Finnish too. And Norwegian. And I think it's the same for Danish too.

In Danish, it's just "sum"...

I've attached a picture of where I believe City 17 could be...

It was calculated from some numbers (longtitude & lattitude) found on a board from a trip to Valve long ago.

Not very assuring, but it's something.

 

[Is This Tea]

"summa" is a word that means exactly the same thing in about 20 East-European languages ranging from Hungary to Finnish and it originates from Latin so your assumption is a bit off.

That’s interesting that Finnish, being a Uralic language, shares so much with Germanic and Slavic languages, those being Indo-European. Does anybody know why this is?
Uralic:

Indo-European:

In Danish, it's just "sum"...

I've attached a picture of where I believe City 17 could be...

It was calculated from some numbers (longtitude & lattitude) found on a board from a trip to Valve long ago.

Not very assuring, but it's something.

A lot Russian text can probably be found there as they are Former Soviet Union countries on the Caucus. No sign of native languages….

 

[MadLog1c]

*cough ravenhonl cough*
Also, isn't Gregori's church an orthodox church?

*cough Ravenholm cough*

 

[Mixmaster]

http://users.evitech.fi/~k0301133/Veikko-International.jpg
Veikko is a name in Finland.

 

[Para]

That’s interesting that Finnish, being a Uralic language, shares so much with Germanic and Slavic languages, those being Indo-European. Does anybody know why this is?

I'll get totally off-topic to answer this question.

Finnish was part of Russia for couple of centuries, then Sweden. As an independent country Finland is only 87 years old and our trade relations with other countries over the centuries has started showing in the words we use. Most Finns also can speak at least two other languages besides Finnish (most commonly Swedish and English) and there's literally hundreds of dialects and slangs in Finnish itself plus as an extra there's some Sami- and Russian speaking minorities here and there, mostly in northern parts of Finland. Oh and we have a good bunch of really annoying "finn-swedes", but I refuse to talk about them.

Finnish is a very unique language though, here's three examples:
1) word-forming in Finnish: http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~fkarlsso/genkau2.html
2) using compound words to form the longest word in any language (example word on the site is 1787 letters long): http://www.hut.fi/~jpakkane/sana.html
3) The longest non-compound word in Finnish is "epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkään" which translates roughly to "even with its quality of not being possible to be made irrational".
I bet that after these examples it doesn't come to you as a surprise that even we can't speak and/or write our language properly in every possible case

For other facts about Finland, check http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fi.html

 

[Is This Tea]

I'll get totally off-topic to answer this question.

Finnish was part of Russia for couple of centuries, then Sweden. As an independent country Finland is only 87 years old and our trade relations with other countries over the centuries has started showing in the words we use. Most Finns also can speak at least two other languages besides Finnish (most commonly Swedish and English) and there's literally hundreds of dialects and slangs in Finnish itself plus as an extra there's some Sami- and Russian speaking minorities here and there, mostly in northern parts of Finland. Oh and we have a good bunch of really annoying "finn-swedes", but I refuse to talk about them.

Finnish is a very unique language though, here's three examples:
1) word-forming in Finnish: http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/~fkarlsso/genkau2.html
2) using compound words to form the longest word in any language (example word on the site is 1787 letters long): http://www.hut.fi/~jpakkane/sana.html
3) The longest non-compound word in Finnish is "epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkään" which translates roughly to "even with its quality of not being possible to be made irrational".
I bet that after these examples it doesn't come to you as a surprise that even we can't speak and/or write our language properly in every possible case

For other facts about Finland, check http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fi.html

Thanks! I’m sort of an off topic person… Maybe I need Ritalin… My apologies for hijacking the thread.

 

[ltzgonemad]

Ever noticed the Combines gas masks has striking similarities to a russian one? Same with the tank. Saw some pictures in a thread somewhere (might have been at the Steam forums) where they compared them, and they we're more or less identical.

As for the Swedish/Finnish textures, maybe they we're just playing around or adding their own personal ''tag''.