Confusion about 7 hour war

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Hey guys im new to this forum and would just like a little hole filled up

Why did earth get its ass handed to it on a plate by the combine? I mean, if a group of untrained rebels can overpower these galactic super beings in city 17 how the hell did our professional soldiers(with tanks and air support) get wiped out with little resistance?
Surely they'd put up more of a fight or just nuke the bastards:cool:

Any ideas guys?:)
 
Presumably the combine arrived in force, used a giant version of the striders' blue cannon to destroy any major threats to them, along with the major cities.

The rebels can overpower the combine because the combine presence on earth is just enough to keep the population of humans and the xen aliens in check, and mostly consists of the remnants of human military forces which have been assimilated into the combine army.
 
Earth was rattled greatly by the aliens sent over during the portal storms and during this event Earth became a wasteland, with very few cities remaining - and what was left of Earths forces, was cornered in the cities, trying to keep the aliens at bay. Ultimately the Combine came in force, teleporting Citadels into the city centres and launching an invasion force from within the cities themselves, overpowering Earth. We were simply caught by surprise - we weren't ready.
But you have to remember the Combine didn't use converted human soldiers, they used aliens they'd already conquered and presumably, these aliens were absolutely ass kicking in their abilities. In the end, their presence was not needed on Earth, since the Overwatch took their place.

In HL2 you are fighting against the Overwatch within a single city, pushing them back to where the Combine originally arrived.
And people were more understanding of the Overwatch themselves, rather than 'jesus wtf is that?'
 
Thanks guys:)

It makes me wonder how the hell can gordon, or humanity for that matter hold up against a huge powerful empire controlling whole damn planets!

Needless to say, after pissing off the combine with the destroying of the citadel,
things are looking pretty grim for Gordon and co

But there's still the gman!
 
Samon said:
We were simply caught by surprise - we weren't ready.
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The same can be said against the Combine as the Resistance forces fought back, too. All of a sudden, after Nova Prospekt, armed citizens are crawling out from the sewers, pipelines and other hidden outposts and catching the Combine forces by surprise. I imagine alot of ambushes to patrols and such, which I would of loved to have seen in the game during the week you and Alyx are absent.
 
Did the earth become a wastland before the combine arived? I thought the wastland was a result of the combine draining its recourses.
 
No, the wasteland was a result of the portal storms, and aliens taking hold of it. I'm sure Combine resource absorption didn't help the eco system much mind.
 
It would be cool to see if there any other humans factions left in the world
Like in raising the bar, there used to be a small group of military soldiers led by alyx's dad(not eli, this guy was scrapped) who helped you in some icy wastes during the game. Shame this was scrapped

I hope Adrian features in future installments:sniper: Maybe led a small group of soldiers still alive
 
The Rebels overpowered them cuz they had the will to fight for their freedom, rather than being some military jocks bent on kicking Combine ass? I dunno....
 
The rebels would inevitably have lost if Gordon hadn't taken out the citadel.

Think of the dozens of gunships and striders you see as you pass through it, not to mention crab and mortar synths.
 
Yeah and even they did hold off the waves of Synths, the Combine would just send down a few of its ass kicking machines from another world.
 
It's funny indeed. We can also safely assume that the Combine used spaceships for combat during the war - orbital bombardment or something. What they left on Earth afterwards is just a small portion of their force, a weak portion. They put the Overwatch there, that should be enough to keep the resistance at bay, and a few heavier war machines.

During the war, I think that things like Striders were the lightest of their forces. The Combine must have dropped bombs or used those Strider-beams from spaceships, launched hundreds if not thousands of Gunships, deployed heavy synths on the ground in numbers... plus it helps that they could obliterate big cities almost instantly.
 
Solver said:
We can also safely assume that the Combine used spaceships for combat during the war
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No we can't, there is no evidence what so ever to support that theory.
 
Solver said:
It's funny indeed. We can also safely assume that the Combine used spaceships for combat during the war - orbital bombardment or something. What they left on Earth afterwards is just a small portion of their force, a weak portion. They put the Overwatch there, that should be enough to keep the resistance at bay, and a few heavier war machines.

During the war, I think that things like Striders were the lightest of their forces. The Combine must have dropped bombs or used those Strider-beams from spaceships, launched hundreds if not thousands of Gunships, deployed heavy synths on the ground in numbers... plus it helps that they could obliterate big cities almost instantly.
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More likely they bomb cities with Mortar Synths, like a huge flock of them. Assuming the Citadels has some sort of artillery on it(Like a Strider Beam, only much bigger), they could evan take out cities a few miles away. But Spaceships? Nah, I don't think so. Remember that the Gunships also have a supression gun on them too. Maybe they have a bigger version of a gunship/dropship, and load a few guns on them. We just don't know, and unless Valve releases a game on the 7 Hour War(which I'm praying to god happens) We may never know.
 
UltimaApocalyspe said:
More likely they bomb cities with Mortar Synths, like a huge flock of them. Assuming the Citadels has some sort of artillery on it(Like a Strider Beam, only much bigger), they could evan take out cities a few miles away. But Spaceships? Nah, I don't think so. Remember that the Gunships also have a supression gun on them too. Maybe they have a bigger version of a gunship/dropship, and load a few guns on them. We just don't know, and unless Valve releases a game on the 7 Hour War(which I'm praying to god happens) We may never know.
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I can imagine gunships alone coming out of the citadels and owning our military alone.
 
They'd use something bigger than Mortar Synth to bomb cities. Mortar Synth are likely used as strategic artillery, for hammering troops - not for massed exploshens. Mortar Synth, from what I've seen in the code, don't actually fire very big ordinance.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Personally I think they would've used much heavier units than the strider or gun ships. If they would've sent just those things well excuse me but I think
our military would've served them back to them on a platter with sprinkles on top. The strider for instance would've been easily destroyed by missiles
or artillery.
Oh, yeah and as for the space ship orbital bombardment thing, nope I don't think so, remember they're from another dimension not a planet in our universe.
 
Nah, spaceships are just too generic these days. Obviously they sent in a heckavolot more than striders and gunships in, they'd have synth soldiers and others. But whats more, they'd still win - our army had been flattened by the portal storms anyway.
 
Combine striders and gunships are strong, but do not forget we have F-14, M1 and ICBM which are quite strong as well. The missile system on earth can cause a great threat to the Combine as well. So, it is impossibe for Combine to takeover the earth within 7 hours, at least being very difficult, unless the Combine has a extremely great amount of striders, gunships, soldiers or somewhat ace in the hole which I am looking forward to see in HL2 expansion pack.
 
bbson_john said:
Combine striders and gunships are strong, but do not forget we have F-14, M1 and ICBM which are quite strong as well. The missile system on earth can cause a great threat to the Combine as well. So, it is impossibe for Combine to takeover the earth within 7 hours, at least being very difficult, unless the Combine has a extremely great amount of striders, gunships, soldiers or somewhat ace in the hole which I am looking forward to see in HL2 expansion pack.
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Well, personally I think the ace would be some kind of disintegration weapon
that could wipe out entire armies in a couple of seconds.
That or maybe nanite bombs, that could specifically destroy all military hardware.

In a fight between a Combine Gunship and an Apache who do you think would
win.... the Apache, it has much grater firepower and it can destroy targets form great distances.
 
We've only seen glimpses of the Combine technology. Quite possibly the gunships and striders are the least dangeorous of Synths, left to keep the planet under check after the really dangerous invasion-army left to do more conquering.

In any case, Earth was already ravaged by the portal storms and most likely under serious dissarray, when Combine arrived right at the centers of the major cities. Most likely the largest population centers were utterly annihilated, since they decided to set their base of operations in an obscure Eastern-European city, instead of say New York, Peking or London.
 
bbson_john said:
Combine striders and gunships are strong, but do not forget we have F-14, M1 and ICBM which are quite strong as well. The missile system on earth can cause a great threat to the Combine as well. So, it is impossibe for Combine to takeover the earth within 7 hours, at least being very difficult, unless the Combine has a extremely great amount of striders, gunships, soldiers or somewhat ace in the hole which I am looking forward to see in HL2 expansion pack.
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The portal storms had already knocked us into anarchy, so there was little trouble in enslaving what was left of humanity (not much). The Combine didn't have the soldiers they had in HL2, they had Synth soldiers and probably countless more freaky aliens they've enslaved, but as the Overwatch took its place as Earths military combine force, they weren't needed and were sent back.
 
Yeah and I doubt the combine would have let us attack them in the first place. More likely that the Citadels appearing would co incide with a coordinated pwning of all armed forces.
 
Plus there'd be unwillingness to use nukes/overly huge conventional explosives against Citadels given that they appeared in major cities.
 
They probably could have lasted a helluva a lot more but Dr. Breen surrenderd earth to the combine. Also, the combine could launch missiles (or headcrab canisters) at resistance from space, we didn't even know they were attacking. They had the upper hand. And the combine invaded earth for natural recources, thats why all of our water was almost been completely drained, as seen in the antlion stage.
 
SmakTurd said:
They probably could have lasted a helluva a lot more but Dr. Breen surrenderd earth to the combine. Also, the combine could launch missiles (or headcrab canisters) at resistance from space, we didn't even know they were attacking. They had the upper hand. And the combine invaded earth for natural recources, thats why all of our water was almost been completely drained, as seen in the antlion stage.
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There is no evidence whatsoever that the Combine have access to any sort of space or orbital equipment.
 
Samon said:
I actually think thats something they don't have.
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Exactly, why would they bother when they have CHAOS CONTROL...er...teleportation :o
Plus, everyone knows there is 1 worthwhile planet in every universe :P
 
Mr. Laidlaw has said that no species has been able to defeat the Combine because of an infinite of attacks.

We merely saw the surface of the Combine potential.

We don't know the range of the vaporizer cannon of the Strider, it could extend for miles. We don't know the Combine's true ground army, we only fought converted humans. Outside of a gunship, we haven't seen any air supremacy. I highly doubt our technology could stand a chance of defeating a true Combine supremacy force.
 
0mar said:
Mr. Laidlaw has said that no species has been able to defeat the Combine because of an infinite of attacks.

We merely saw the surface of the Combine potential.

We don't know the range of the vaporizer cannon of the Strider, it could extend for miles. We don't know the Combine's true ground army, we only fought converted humans. Outside of a gunship, we haven't seen any air supremacy. I highly doubt our technology could stand a chance of defeating a true Combine supremacy force.
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if it is a space, the range of the cannon should be infinity. I think striders and gunships are only regarded as "police". They are not battle wagons. But, if no species is capable of defeating combine, how do Gordon Freeman suppose to do so? There must be someone giving a hand, like the G-man. G-man must of some underground association in which there is of almost equal technology in comparison with the Combine and they have decided to taking a counter-strike on the combine.
 
I'll summarize: total ownership.

Note to any Valve staff who's listening. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that a spin off episode documenting the 7-hour war would/could be god-like. Shoot, with a 7-hour war you could do it in 'real time'.
 
That's a big problem with video games... you got to make alot of the support up yourself based on what you WANT to be the case. Haha, prolly why it's so damn hard to make a good video game movie.
 
A 7-hour war game would suck. You know how it has to end.
Plus 1 side completely omgwtfpwned the other, crushing resistance entirely and efficiently. Whichever side you played as would either be impossible or ez-mode.
 
Eejit said:
A 7-hour war game would suck. You know how it has to end.
Plus 1 side completely omgwtfpwned the other, crushing resistance entirely and efficiently. Whichever side you played as would either be impossible or ez-mode.
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why would that suck D:
some people have limited imaginations
 
I'm sure just because you know we lose the war does not mean it will suck. There's a great deal of stuff Valve could throw in.
 
You could play as a 13370r soldier in the earth's military force. Your job is to protect something important (Kleiner?), which the resistance will need years from then. How does that sound? :)
 
I somehow doubt Kleiner and Eli's importance in the conflict. I mean, they have just managed to escape Black Mesa, how on Earth will anyone know what role they'll play in events to come? The main focus, if you play as a human should be Breen and the steps he took to persuade what was left of the government, the power he gathered in the crisis and the final surrender.
 
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