Eminems new anti-Bush video..

[h00dlum]

Even if ou dont like rap or Eminem check it out its a really cool video..

http://www.gnn.tv/content/eminem_mosh.html

 

[Lil' Timmy]

is this the beginning of titor's war? :O

 

[azz0r]

The more bothered about it people get, basically he's won.

 

[Steve]

The more bothered about it people get, basically he's won.

how do you figure? i don't think it's his objective to piss off the american people.

 

[f|uke]

Heh. The elections are in 5 days. That is what determines who wins.

Good video. Stylistic and rather positive. I somehow doubt they've been playing it on Mtv tho.

 

[Razor]

So Eminem has had an:
anti establishment song
anti homosexuality song
anti Eminem's entire family song.
anti Bush song
anti Moby song

Infact, is there anyone this guy hasn't pissed off, attempted to humiliate or verbally destroy?

 

[Steve]

So Eminem has had an:
anti establishment song
anti homosexuality song
anti Eminem's entire family song.
anti Bush song
anti Moby song

Infact, is there anyone this guy hasn't pissed off, attempted to humiliate or verbally destroy?

...it was more of an anti-moby LINE...at most, a stanza...

oh! and black people. he doesn't hate black people

 

[Razor]

...it was more of an anti-moby LINE...at most, a stanza...

Well...same thing.

 

[No Limit]

So Eminem has had an:
anti establishment song

example of this?

anti homosexuality song

Again, do you have an example of this? If you call someone antihomesexuality simply because they use the word fag the is something wrong with you.

anti Eminem's entire family song.

He has said a lot of bad things about his mom, I wouldn't call that anti-family. He has a lot of love for his daughter and his brother. Sure, he doesn't like his mom; however, there is a very good reason for that. If your mom was a drug addict that left you on your own and then when you made good money tried to sue you you would be pissed too.

anti Moby song

Moby attacked him first, he simply responded. In fact, this was the case for everyone he has ever attacked.

Infact, is there anyone this guy hasn't pissed off, attempted to humiliate or verbally destroy?

The above list you made is pretty much it, why don't you get informed first?

 

[Burn]

Pretty good rap, I only really like his rap, got a nice voice. Very cool video. Pitty from the UK so I dont understand quite alot of it. Allthough most of it I understand

 

[Razor]

No Limit, every single one of his family, including his mum and brother have said that everything he says in his songs is utter rubbish and they sued him for liable. I have many gay friends, and being called words like that to them is just as bad as a black guy being called the 'n' word. If you say the 'n' word, you're classified as racist, why is it different if you call someone gay by saying they're a 'fag'.

For an anti-establishment song, you just need to buy any of his albums and listen to what he says.

I don't hate Eminem, i like some of his music, mainly the funny ones and some of the ones he has done with D12, but he does rap songs that are offensive to a lot of people.

 

[Gunner]

Very nice video. Song isn't the best I've heard from him, but the video is great.

 

[No Limit]

No Limit, every single one of his family, including his mum and brother have said that everything he says in his songs is utter rubbish and they sued him for liable. I have many gay friends, and being called words like that to them is just as bad as a black guy being called the 'n' word. If you say the 'n' word, you're classified as racist, why is it different if you call someone gay by saying they're a 'fag'.

For an anti-establishment song, you just need to buy any of his albums and listen to what he says.

I don't hate Eminem, i like some of his music, mainly the funny ones and some of the ones he has done with D12, but he does rap songs that are offensive to a lot of people.

If you find his music offensive then, no offense, but you are a pussy. Let me explain. I don't know about you but I hear people using the word fag on a regular basis. I have absolutely no problems with gay people, but if they take someone being called a fag personally they need to grow up. Being white and Polish I have been called many colorful things, all of us have because of our race, personality, or whatever. Gay people are all for equal rights, if you are a gay person that wants these equal rights but you think a boycott should be called every time someone makes fun of someone using a word that is offensive to you, you are a hypocrite. I have never heard of anyone getting upset with a black rapper, comedian, or actor for using the word cracker. I think gay people should have as much rights as we do, but that will never happen if they make a huge controversy when someone says the word fag or calls someone gay.

 

[KagePrototype]

Guess what?

There's already a thread for this.

In the correct forum as well.

/me runs away

 

[No Limit]

No Limit, every single one of his family, including his mum and brother have said that everything he says in his songs is utter rubbish and they sued him for liable.

His mom is the only one that sued him, his mom might have also sued in his brothers name as the brother has no control over it since he is under 18 and in her custody. I don't think his brother has a problem with Eminem especially since he appeared in his video. His mom is a total bitch and there is lots of proof of this. She has tried to get rich off of his sucess numerous times using dirty tricks and even released a tape complaining about him.

 

[azz0r]

how do you figure? i don't think it's his objective to piss off the american people.

Oh but it is. He knows the more controversy he makes the better his albums and singles sell.

Its a fact. Look at `Smack my btch` up by the Prodigy as just one example.

 

[No Limit]

Oh but it is. He knows the more controversy he makes the better his albums and singles sell.

Its a fact. Look at `Smack my btch` up by the Prodigy as just one example.

Smack my bitch up wasn't by Eminem, not sure why you are putting the 2 together.

What kind of controversy??? Can you name one example??? People getting their feelings hurt because Eminem says the f word is not controversy.

 

[NeptuneUK]

lol, people like that are funny

"omg u sedd a norty werd! i is weally offended by dat, i might jus go to my daddy an cry in da corner..."

 

[azz0r]

Smack my bitch up wasn't by Eminem, not sure why you are putting the 2 together.

What kind of controversy??? Can you name one example??? People getting their feelings hurt because Eminem says the f word is not controversy.

I was linking controversy to sales, Smack my btch up is a perfect example.

Eminem has benefited greatly from it, from mothers, homosexuals and churchs condeming it - it has all been great press and anything out of line (his anti-homosexual sentiment in a few songs, the insults to his mother and father) has insured great sales.

It seems clear your an eminem fanboy, I could go do your research on Google to prove my point, but honestly its well documented enough.

 

[No Limit]

I'm an emeinem fan boy? Well yes, but in the real world it's called an Eminem fan.

Why are the things you mention controversial? Because these groups bitching and whining made it controversial, Eminem had nothing to do with it.

What I love about any rap is that they don't talk in a way that is 'safe', they talk like most of us talk. Are you honestly going to tell me that you never said the word fag, bitch, or ****?

his anti-homosexual sentiment in a few songs

Again you don't have any examples of this, you are just repeating what these stupid groups are saying.

the insults to his mother and father

I explained why he is pissed at his mother earlier. His father left him and his mother in the cold and never spoke to him again. Then once Eminem got famous and rich he tried to come back in his life out of nowhere, you are telling me Eminem shouldn't be pissed off and disgusted by this?

could go do your research on Google to prove my point, but honestly its well documented enough

I would love to see how this is documented with actual facts.

 

[KagePrototype]

If you don't think eminem is controversial....you must have been living under a rock for six years. He might not have the same effect today (or to you personally), but back when Slim Shady LP was released, he was horrendously controversial. What did you think the Marshall Mathers LP was about? It was a huge "**** you" to the people who attacked Eminem because of his lyrics. Just listen to "The Way I Am", "I'm Back", "Marshall Mathers", "Criminal", "Remember Me", "Who Knew" etc. Remember Columbine? They blamed artists like Marilyn Manson and Eminem for it.

 

[Yakuza]

His mom is the only one that sued him, his mom might have also sued in his brothers name as the brother has no control over it since he is under 18 and in her custody. I don't think his brother has a problem with Eminem especially since he appeared in his video. His mom is a total bitch and there is lots of proof of this. She has tried to get rich off of his sucess numerous times using dirty tricks and even released a tape complaining about him.

Whatever man, the point is the dude has no honor.

I love how he says he loves his dughter by writting music on how he would beat up her mom.

 

[No Limit]

Whatever man, the point is the dude has no honor.

I love how he says he loves his dughter by writting music on how he would beat up her mom.

You are completely dodging my point. If your mom was a drug addict who left you on your own and then tried to make money off your fame wouldn't you be pissed? What the hell does that have to do with honor??? How can you honor someone that treated you like shit?

 

[No Limit]

If you don't think eminem is controversial....you must have been living under a rock for six years. He might not have the same effect today (or to you personally), but back when Slim Shady LP was released, he was horrendously controversial. What did you think the Marshall Mathers LP was about? It was a huge "**** you" to the people who attacked Eminem because of his lyrics. Just listen to "The Way I Am", "I'm Back", "Marshall Mathers", "Criminal", "Remember Me", "Who Knew" etc. Remember Columbine? They blamed artists like Marilyn Manson and Eminem for it.

Again, why was it controversial? He said nothing new, rappers have been saying what he has said since begining of rap. The only reason these stupid groups jumped all over him was because he was white, that is a fact. Go to a lyric site, go in the rap category, and type in fag. How many results do you get? Why weren't these groups attacking those rappers?

 

[KagePrototype]

Again, why was it controversial? He said nothing new, rappers have been saying what he has said since begining of rap. The only reason these stupid groups jumped all over him was because he was white, that is a fact. Go to a lyric site, go in the rap category, and type in fag. How many results do you get? Why weren't these groups attacking those rappers?

I'm not here to explain why they jumped on him like they did...I'm here to say that they did it. If you want to know reasons, ask them personally, because how am I supposed to know? I didn't even claim to know why they chose him over other rap artists. But to say that Eminem wasn't controversial is to show that you weren't around when he first showed up with the Slim Shady LP. The guy feeds on this controversy, I've seen him say it on MTV himself. It gives him stuff to write about. The Marshall Mathers LP and The Eminem Show were fueled by this stuff.

 

[No Limit]

I'm not here to explain why they jumped on him like they did...I'm here to say that they did it. If you want to know reasons, ask them personally. But to say that Eminem wasn't controversial is to show that you weren't around when he first showed up with the Slim Shady LP.

I was around a lot earlier than that, I've been listening to Eminem for a very long time.

That is exactly my point, you don't have a reason for why they jumped on him the way they did. Sure, by defenition it was controversy. The election is by defention also controversy, what's your point? However, you have to agree it was controversy over nothing, they simply got pissed because a white rapper was saying these things.

 

[KagePrototype]

I was around a lot earlier than that, I've been listening to Eminem for a very long time.

That is exactly my point, you don't have a reason for why they jumped on him the way they did. Sure, by defenition it was controversy. The election is by defention also controversy, what's your point? However, you have to agree it was controversy over nothing, they simply got pissed because a white rapper was saying these things.

Yeah, I know it was controversy over nothing, I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying that Eminem WAS controversial, and a helluva lot of people had a large problem with him. If you want to know why he was singled out, don't ask me.

 

[othello]

it's good to see that eminem is influencing his 12-16 yr old fan banse to vote... oh wait. hmmm. whats worse is that some have called this video 'powerful' and/or 'educational'... how sad. but this video is about the power of your vote, right? pffft. what were those lyrics again... oh yeah, '**** bush, no moore blood for oil, wah wah wah'. give me a break. why dont we 'kill fags and rape sluts' while were at it too, since we're going off eminem lyrics.

if you find his music offensive, then you are a pussy.

hahahaha what a douche bag. just go back to your 40 player source server and leave the grown up issues to the grown ups. i love how you say you are 'all for gays', yet you are here defending an avid anti-homosexual lyricist. then you claim that the 'gays' make too much of a big deal over the word 'fag'... well, according to your inane logic, black people just need to get over being called a 'n1gg3r'.

 

[No Limit]

it's good to see that eminem is influencing his 12-16 yr old fan banse to vote... oh wait. hmmm. whats worse is that some have called this video 'powerful' and/or 'educational'... how sad. but this video is about the power of your vote, right? pffft. what were those lyrics again... oh yeah, '**** bush, no moore blood for oil, wah wah wah'. give me a break. why dont we 'kill fags and rape sluts' while were at it too, since we're going off eminem lyrics.



hahahaha what a douche bag. just go back to your 40 player source server and leave the grown up issues to the grown ups. i love how you say you are 'all for gays', yet you are here defending an avid anti-homosexual lyricist. then you claim that the 'gays' make too much of a big deal over the word 'fag'... well, according to your inane logic, black people just need to get over being called a 'n1gg3r'.

Wow, what an idiot :upstare:.

First off, you took my quote completely out of context, good for you :thumbs:.

Then you repeat the same stupid idiotic shit that I already said wasn't true. another :thumbs: up for you.

Now let me explain how else your post is total bullshit.

The song was clearly anti-Bush, I have no clue where you got the idea that it should only be about your power to vote.

why dont we 'kill fags and rape sluts' while were at it too, since we're going off eminem lyrics.

Again you are an idiot, show me one example.

hahahaha what a douche bag. just go back to your 40 player source server and leave the grown up issues to the grown ups

Judging by your use of bad spelling and bad grammar I can definitely see how you are a 'grown up'.

You have no idea who you are trying to intimidate here so give up now because you will not win this :cheers:.

 

[No Limit]

Yeah, I know it was controversy over nothing, I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying that Eminem WAS controversial, and a helluva lot of people had a large problem with him. If you want to know why he was singled out, don't ask me.

Sorry, I misunderstood what I said. I am on the defensive here because of idiots like othello.

 

[Yakuza]

You are completely dodging my point. If your mom was a drug addict who left you on your own and then tried to make money off your fame wouldn't you be pissed? What the hell does that have to do with honor??? How can you honor someone that treated you like shit?

My emotional feelings do not dictate how I react to the world. I dont flip off every single guy who cuts me off. I dont beat the hell out of my wife cause she picks a fight. All I am saying is that we shouldn't let others dictate the integrity of our personel response. Especialy in regards to his daughters mom. I mean his daughter loves her mom, and probably cause her mommy. Yet how does he honor his daughters feeling towards her mother? he calls her a b*tch and says verbaly abusive remarks.

My mom was a drug addict, but I dont Publicaly degrade her because of her wrong duings.

Its not that his mom deserves respect but as a man he should have the integrity to keep from publicaly humiliating them.

He acts like a little kid with a chip on his shoulder. I hate this, I hate that. Come on there are a million people out there who have lives 10x worse than this kid and yet they have Integrity and can live life honorably.

 

[No Limit]

My emotional feelings do not dictate how I react to the world. I dont flip off every single guy who cuts me off. I dont beat the hell out of my wife cause she picks a fight. All I am saying is that we shouldn't let others dictate the integrity of our personel response. Especialy in regards to his daughters mom. I mean his daughter loves her mom, and probably cause her mommy. Yet how does he honor his daughters feeling towards her mother? he calls her a b*tch and says verbaly abusive remarks.

My mom was a drug addict, but I dont Publicaly degrade her because of her wrong duings.

Its not that his mom deserves respect but as a man he should have the integrity to keep from publicaly humiliating them.

He acts like a little kid with a chip on his shoulder. I hate this, I hate that. Come on there are a million people out there who have lives 10x worse than this kid and yet they have Integrity and can live life honorably.

His daughter's mom is such a great mom that she doesn't even have custody of the daughter because of a criminal history and a serious drug problem.

If you have the decency to not degrade someone that degraded you then more power to you, not all people are the same. I have dealt with a lot of people that went through a terrible childhood and really bad teenage years, those people aren't going to be as forgiving as you and I.

His raps are rarely I hate this and I hate that. When is talking about hard times he is usually rapping about being an extremely poor white kid living in Detroit, something he went through. I can name many other songs in other genres that talk about how badly their life sucks a lot more. Most of the new punk/pop music is that way.

 

[No Limit]

Sorry, I misunderstood what I said. I am on the defensive here because of idiots like othello.

I need to get some rest. Since I can't edit it I will clarify:

Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. I am on the defensive here because of idiots like othello.

 

[azz0r]

I cant believe someones defending Eminem and claiming his music isnt contreversal.

OMG THE SKY IS PINK!!!!!!!!

 

[No Limit]

I cant believe someones defending Eminem and claiming his music isnt contreversal.

OMG THE SKY IS PINK!!!!!!!!

If you have nothing to add why do you even post? I was saying that the controversy was over nothing and I explained that in a later post.

 

[othello]

Wow, what an idiot :upstare:.

First off, you took my quote completely out of context, good for you :thumbs:.

no i didnt. i quoted the first sentence of your post (oh sorry, left out the 'no offense' disclaimer), and then elaborated on your 'explanation' of how gays make too big of a deal over the use of the word 'fag'.

Then you repeat the same stupid idiotic shit that I already said wasn't true. another :thumbs: up for you.

oh sorry, because you said it wasn't true, i will hang my head in shame, fountain of all knowledge.

Now let me explain how else your post is total bullshit.

judging from the content of your posts thus far, this should be quite laughable, at best.

The song was clearly anti-Bush, I have no clue where you got the idea that it should only be about your power to vote.

i never said i got that idea from you, but many other people who have seen this video have said things right along those lines. the first part of my post was directed to people 'in general', the second part was just for you.

Again you are an idiot, show me one example.

uhh... what you quoted is one example smartass. do you even listen to eminem songs?

'97 Bonnie & Clyde

Where's momma?/ She's taking a little nap in the trunk/Oh, that smell?/Daddy must've run over a skunk.

Amityville

My little sister’s birthday/She’ll remember me/For a gift I had ten of my boys take her virginity.

Kill You

Pretty much the entire song.

Who Knew

My life's like kinda what my wife's like (what?)/
****ed up after I beat her ****in ass every night, Ike

Kim

Pretty much the entire song.

Remember Me?

My baby's mom,/ bitch made me an angry blonde/
So I made me a song,/ killed her and put Hailie on.

Marshal Mathers

You might see me walkin a dead rottweiler dog
with it's head chopped off in the park with a spiked collar
hollerin at him cause the son of a bitch won't quit barkin'.

Plus I was put here to put fear in ******s who spray Faygo Root Beer and call themselves "Clowns" cause they look queer ******2Dope and Silent Gay

Bad Influence

Shit, why not, blow your brain out,/ I'm blowin mine out/
**** it, you only live once, you might as well die now!

and the list goes on and on with the number of anti-homosexual, pro-violence, vulgar-ridden lines of lyrics rampant throughout the majority of eminem's songs. but why should i waste my time quoting all these songs? you have your head so far up M's ass, surely you've listened to a few of his songs as well, right?

Judging by your use of bad spelling and bad grammar I can definitely see how you are a 'grown up'.

hmm... using your own words, 'again, you are an idiot, show me one example'. a typo is a typo, but i rarely misspell. grammar? well considering this is an online forum, i dont really bother with capitalization or proper punctuation. if that ruffles your ignorant little feathers, i do apologize.

You have no idea who you are trying to intimidate here so give up now because you will not win this :cheers:.

im not trying to intimidate anyone, just pointing out an obvious lack of competent reasoning. so yeah, :cheers:

 

[Yakuza]

His daughter's mom is such a great mom that she doesn't even have custody of the daughter because of a criminal history and a serious drug problem.

If you have the decency to not degrade someone that degraded you then more power to you, not all people are the same. I have dealt with a lot of people that went through a terrible childhood and really bad teenage years, those people aren't going to be as forgiving as you and I.

His raps are rarely I hate this and I hate that. When is talking about hard times he is usually rapping about being an extremely poor white kid living in Detroit, something he went through. I can name many other songs in other genres that talk about how badly their life sucks a lot more. Most of the new punk/pop music is that way.

Look, i am not arguing the fact that some things are messed up. Suffering is something we all go through. And yes we have all been hurt by those we love.

My point is that Honor or integirty has nothing to do with how some one treats us rather how we choose to repsond to it. He can keep makin all this money on experssing his feelings and talking about how all these people wronged him, but at the end of the day is he a Better man? is he a Better Father?

I guess what we need to do is find out your definition of honor.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Well, it's a way better song than most anything he's done before.

It might be a bit short-lived though, since in 5 days, the entire song might be validated.
Sorta like how Will Smith is partying like it's 1990..hold up, it is!

 

[Tinneth]

VERY powerful song.

 

[Ecthe|ioN]

My ears don't like Eminem ..