Fashion weapons from whatever is at hand

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Just reading through www.half-life2.com (actually www.half-life3.com :P) and noticed this:

Half Life 2 .com's Overview Page said:
AI - Neither friends nor enemies charge blindly into the fray. They can assess threats, navigate tricky terrain, and fashion weapons from whatever is at hand.

Does this only refer to something like the Strider kicking cars around? Or will we see little kids and stuff running through the streets throwing rocks at Combine APCs ala Palestine or something? I think it'd be great to see a resistance fighter whacking Zombies with a 2x4 he just picked up :bounce:

The possibilities for this could be both comedic and scary...
 
I reckon that all of the NPCs will be programmed to be told what they can and can't use as weapons. For example it's doubtful that a child would use a gun so they're probably told not to use them.

It is possible however that they can pick up smaller items to hurl at combine. But we'll have to see. Very good question though, I'd recommend asking Gabe Newell.

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Or will we see little kids and stuff running through the streets throwing rocks at Combine APCs ala Palestine or something?

You're kidding right? lol thats funny...


I think what they mean is, they will block doorways with barrells, like Gordon can. Or striders using cars, like you said.
 
I emailed Gabe, so I guess we'll find out.

It could add a whole other layer of desperation to battles. Freddy the resistance fighter is pumping round after round into the advancing combine troopers, but turns around to see an antlion barreling toward him. He raises his gun in defense, but the antlion has already struck, sending the weapon skittering away. He looks around desperately, picking up a 2x4 with only the faintest hope of being able to fend off the antlion before help arrives from his fellow fighters just a few meters away. The antlion leaps, and Freddy swings the 2x4...

Something about Palestinian children throwing rocks at collossal tanks rumbling through the streets always strikes a weird chord in me. It's mostly a "wtf are you doing?" thing, but there's something else. Maybe the dejected desperation of a person who feels they have no option left, maybe people sacrificing their lives as pointless, penny-ante poker chips. I just don't know. But it would affect me if something similar was in-game.
 
Why did they also take www.half-life3.com domain? So there will be another HL? LoL, i didnt know. But atm we dont care about that now do we, we want HL2 :p
 
-TaNaKa- said:
Why did they also take www.half-life3.com domain? So there will be another HL? LoL, i didnt know. But atm we dont care about that now do we, we want HL2 :p

They said HL 3 was going to be made as soon as they said they were making HL2.
 
Maybe they will make rudimentary lathes (ala Galaxy Quest)....
 
I'm not expecting too much in this department, generally just things being kicked/tossed around like the zombie kicking the barrel/strider kicking a car. I won't expect people to pick up objects and actually swing them.
 
What we know so far: zombies kicked barrels, striders kicked cars and combine troops kicked a door sending a table sliding a good distance.
There was also an article that described a large creature shoving a combine APC off a cliff.

I bet that the combine will know how to smash the things between you and them, but I wouldn't get my hopes up and expect anything more than kicking/shoving.

(Although there's got to be at least one enemy that can pick stuff up and throw it :))
 
-TaNaKa- said:
Why did they also take www.half-life3.com domain? So there will be another HL? LoL, i didnt know. But atm we dont care about that now do we, we want HL2 :p

They've already had some rough scetches on HL3 and it seems Marc Laidlaw (Storywriter) has a pretty good idea of what should be in/happen in HL3.

I checked if half-life4.com was registered as well (You never know!)... It wasn't. That doesn't mean it ends with a 3rd, but most probably that's the outcome. I believe we'll still see more things from the Half-Life universe after HL3, because there's more to it then just Gordon.

Mechagodzilla said:
(Although there's got to be at least one enemy that can pick stuff up and throw it :))

Haven't we already seen a guy throw barrels of a smaller cliff?
 
Chris_D said:
For example it's doubtful that a child would use a gun so they're probably told not to use them.

Children in a lot of countries take up arms when they believe the existance of their culture is threatened, look at Salvador, Mogadishu, Kosovo etc.
Why should City 17 be any different?

If political correctness starts dictating the content of games, we're in for a whole bunch of lame turkeys in the near future, but much MUCH worse, developers would be pandering to those moral crusaders who would, if they had the chance, dictate by law what is 'harmful' and what isn't.

Of course seeing a kid with a carbine get capped in glorious 3D would be pretty distasteful, but then the designers aren't dumb - I'm sure they have the ability to decide what is decent and what isn't while at the same time retaining a grasp on contemporary reality. :/
 
Maybe there will be a Mc Gywer AI in the game. I so , then the possibilites for collateral damage is huge.

Mc Gywer + high explosives = FUN!
 
Well, if they put kids in the game, that pretty much guarantees that someone, somewhere will devote a mod to blasting the crap out of them. Hell, they'll likely end up scouring the single player and killing every child they find. Maybe even devoting a webpage to it.
 
Dont forget the gunship in the coastline video, it shot a barrel straight at the buggy, which i thought was kinda cool lol.

Mechagodzilla said:
Well, if they put kids in the game, that pretty much guarantees that someone, somewhere will devote a mod to blasting the crap out of them. Hell, they'll likely end up scouring the single player and killing every child they find. Maybe even devoting a webpage to it.

Doom 3 has flying babies!
 
Mechagodzilla said:
Well, if they put kids in the game, that pretty much guarantees that someone, somewhere will devote a mod to blasting the crap out of them. Hell, they'll likely end up scouring the single player and killing every child they find. Maybe even devoting a webpage to it.

and that could potenially be a very bad thing...especiallly in the PR department...pple over at CNN or what have u, will have a field day with this sorta thing.

that would be a bad route to go for Valve.. :|
 
Dr. Freeman said:
and that could potenially be a very bad thing...especiallly in the PR department...pple over at CNN or what have u, will have a field day with this sorta thing.

that would be a bad route to go for Valve.. :|

I think that Dr. Freeman have some very good points. Even though i realy don´t like kids, and i always laugh when kub dies in Happy tree friends, killing them is wrong. If we killed all the kids, who would be my slaves when i crushed all the goverments under my mighty boots... Errr, ignore that last part.
 
we're the most advanced species on earth but we can still find reasons why it's ok for an adult to be blown apart in war... but not a kid who's machine gun fires the same bullets. The irony is, MOST games players ARE kids who enjoy wasting adults with machine guns. :D

I want my muffin.
 
It is a twisted world made of double standards that we live in.
 
Half-Life 2

This game is sooo cool , i am buying 5 copys of it lol , nah but i will be buying it as soon as it comes out. Valve you have yourself alot of customers , you better make loads copies of the games when you release it. As i think everyone would agree when i say (quote me on this)

"Half-Life 2 will be the best ever seller when it is released"

Thankyou
 
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