Gmans relationship with Breen

[Nickzer_Teh_Pwn]

Ok I wanna know people's opinions on this matter - and no, dont come out with any 'funny stuff' like they like seeing each other in the bath. What I mean is, I think it would ruin the game if the Gman was linked to Breen i.e. his superior, the good thing about the gman is he is on his own, thats what makes him so cool.
If he suddenly became a part of Breens gayass hierarchical structure the mystery of him would go away so its my own personal opinion that you will be none the wiser about who the gman works for at the start or middle of the game.

 

[SMT]

I agree with you. I've always sort of felt that the G-Man is more than meets the eye.

 

[Andy]

He knows the destructive force of Freeman and his ability to disrupt all things and his way of surviving. He wouldn't have sent Freeman into situation if he was backing the combine. He's stiring. He got his own ulterior motives, possibly outside the knowledge of his boss, the administrator and I don't like it...

I've semi based a mod round this theory anyway, so I hope I'm at least partially right.

 

[el Chi]

I agree with you. I've always sort of felt that the G-Man is more than meets the eye.

Yeah I agree with Andy that the G-Man doesn't work for Breen - his boss is the "Administrator" and I think I've heard we'll learn a lot more about him, possibly even meet him? Very shadowy.

 

[Bing_Oh]

I'd say he's definitely part of an organization with the Admin as his boss (whether the Admin is Breen is still a point of debate, in my humble opinion)...BUT I also think he has his own alterior motives outside of those of his superiors. He's DEFINITELY playing all sides against one another for as yet unknown personal reasons.

 

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

He knows the destructive force of Freeman and his ability to disrupt all things and his way of surviving. He wouldn't have sent Freeman into situation if he was backing the combine. He's stiring. He got his own ulterior motives, possibly outside the knowledge of his boss, the administrator and I don't like it...

I've semi based a mod round this theory anyway, so I hope I'm at least partially right.

heeh you said just what I've been thinking all the time...

 

[Eejit]

He knows the destructive force of Freeman and his ability to disrupt all things and his way of surviving. He wouldn't have sent Freeman into situation if he was backing the combine. He's stiring. He got his own ulterior motives, possibly outside the knowledge of his boss, the administrator and I don't like it...

I've semi based a mod round this theory anyway, so I hope I'm at least partially right.

I do like it, even more mystery about him if he is playing both sides against the middle :bounce:

 

[Nickzer_Teh_Pwn]

Yeh if he is working for Breen he is definately going behind his back and doing shit. I reckon he is more powerful than breen he is so much cooler as well breen looks like a prick on comparison.

 

[Mr. Redundant]

its purely platonic I swear.

 

[aFireInside0016]

Gman is definately on his own.

 

[Eejit]

He can't be completely on his own, he does mention his 'employers' at least once (end of op4).

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

He mentions them in HL's ending too.

".. my.. ehh... employers, and they agree with me that you have limitlessss potentialllll"

 

[PriNcE oF SpAcE]

He mentions them in HL's ending too.

".. my.. ehh... employers, and they agree with me that you have limitlessss potentialllll"

yeah...I think what we're trying to say is that G is pursuing his own agenda behind the backs of his so called "Employers"

 

[Andy]

but he recruited you after recommending you to his employers. His employers probably rubber stamped Gordon Freeman into service not knowing (like the g-man who had first hand experience) what a wild card he was. So... if he is now going behind the administrators back he must have either had this planned from the start or changed his mind in the aftermath of Black Mesa.

So why, and what's he doing? What does the administrator have that he wants, and why does he want the combine destroyed. Cuase he knows that's what's going to happen.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Doug Lombardi (sp?) said who the Administrator is in a recent interview.
If you don't want to know, don't highlight this:

Spoiler

The Administrator of Black Mesa and City 17 are the same person: Dr. Breen.

 

[DelaZ]

Who is the Administrator in HL1... Did we ever saw him? I don't remember actually... What and who is exactly the Administrator and were in the game do we hear about him?

 

[Mechagodzilla]

The administrator is the one who ordered the unsafe test that started the accident in HL1, and the G-man may work for him.
He's also the one who approved Gordon's hiring at Black Mesa.

He was only refered to slightly in the first game, but we will meet him in Half-Life 2.

 

[Edcrab]

Yeah. I'm hoping the G-man will stay as mysterious as ever; and I also reckon he's a more powerful individual than Breen. Hell, he appeared at length in the E3 vids, Breen was just some git on a video. I'm sure the G-man, if he is in the direct employer of Breen, will report back to a far higher source, probably dabbling in incredibly unethical schemes, as per usual.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Yeah, I think the G-man infiltrated Black Mesa posing as one of the administrator's men.
Given how human Breen looks, I doubt that they're on the same team.

I'd bet that the G-man was using him the same way he used Gordon and Aidrian.

 

[wHaley]

The way I believe it to be is that Breen was the administrator of Black Mesa (Lombardi has confirmed this), and the G-man used Freeman to tear apart Black Mesa in a sense hence ruining Black Mesa and taking away the Administrators administration. Now Dr. Breen has a new Administration in City 17 and the G-man is using Freeman again to take down Dr. Breens administration.

 

[Sprafa]

I'm working on a Grand Unified HL theory to end with them all, but for now I can tell you this:

Breen was the Admin. in Balck Mesa. That means he was the top guy for the Lamdba project. My theory is he adquired the Combine technology thru it, and that Nihliant was possibly one of the 1st representatives of that race (he looks biomech, as the Combine).

The G-man however, prepared Marines for the invasion of Xen (which I believe was planned) possibly b/c after the Nihilant took control, he was mass-manufacturing an army that the Shadow Govt. he is part of (maybe DARPA & NSA, who knows...) feared. So they planned the resonance Cascade, with Breen pulling his own strings, possibly he is too part of the Shadow Govt.


But when the Marines fail, they send the Black Ops to clean it up, but they also fail.

Eventually he leads Freeman to the Nihilant and he kills it.


With the Nihilant dead, Xen goes into chaos, and Race-X start going thru Xen (since it's a borderworld, a freeway between point A and B in teleportation) and invade Earth. Shepard ends with the Race-X invasion and G-man hires Freeman, but is unable to do the same to Shepard, since his superiors seem not to have the same appreciation for him as he does.

So, that leaves us with Human control of Xen. Of course, it being such an important galactical checkpoint, we can't expect Mankind to have the force to hold off the entire Galaxy, even counting with Nihilant's army....
So, we lose control. Earth gets invaded, man becomes just another race on Earth as aliens teleport all over the place. It's possible that the Xenians (headcrabs & Vortigaunts) spread over the "linked" planets at this time of desperation, maybe with the intelligent ones even helping the opressed races as they.

Some cities remain, possibly with more than 1 under the control of Combine.

But when Breen goes agaisnt the Shadow Govt. and starts fouding his own cities and controlling them with Combine tech, we must expect some conflict. I think there's when Freeman goes in

The G-man sends you in after 10 years of stasis, possibly cryogenic, to City 17 to help to end with Breen's inssurection.

 

[Andy]

My theory that the G-man is going behind the backs of his employers is written into the back story of a SP Mod i'm designing.

Come, read, flame:

G-man is not unique. He was not the first. Nor was he the last. The G-man Gordon Freeman met in Black Mesa was known simple as, “IV”: the Fourth Executive. His organisation was the DEXIS, the Department of External and Internal Stability.

Although the First Executive came to control in 1947, it is not known exactly when the DEXIS was originally found, or by whom. Most likely, the organisation was created by a group of the first Administrators.

The Administrators are enigmatic figures. What authority and mandate they have has always been unclear, though they seem to require no government nor popular approval for whatever they do. The purpose of the DEXIS: to enforce the will of the current Administrator without question; to act as the executive arm of this group; to provide the power behind the authority.

It was an administrator who presided over the Black Mesa Research Facility, who ordered the fatal experiment to go ahead who instructed the G-man to enforcing the order and who sent in the military, when the situation worsened.
It was an administrator oversaw City 17.

The Administrators however, where far from omniscient. Little did they know, that from before the Black Mesa Incident right up to the fall of City 17, they were being betrayed, by IV.

When the first Executive was installed, the Administrators where extremely concerned about control. Despite careful conditioning, personality is not definable in genetic form and thus not totally controllable. Administrators are incredibly intelligent (average IQ is around 280) and posses skill, speed and strength many times that of a normal human being, they require no sleep and little food and carry select memories from their predecessors. To prevent a rouge Executive from becoming a threat therefore, all subjects are cloned with a “Failsafe” gene inserted into their DNA. The results: Executives reach maturity in a matter of months but only live for 20 years. Each Executive thus gets 15 years of active duty before his time is up.

If IV had reservations with this state of affairs, they where not flagged up during his conditioning. However once installed in his role, he began to realise that he was superior in nearly every way to his “employers” (a word he disliked to use). It won’t long before this, combined with grievance regarding his mortality, fostered thoughts of rebellion. He wanted life and he wanted power. Secretly he began to work on his Failsafe, but the administrators had made his G-Nome an biological code. With no computer powerful enough to break the encryption, IV met with failure.

His plans began again in earnest however, when he was sent to oversee a breakthrough in the Black Mesa Research Facility two years before Gordon Freeman stepped into the chamber that fateful day. Scans had shown evidence of an immensely powerful and intelligent creature or creatures, able of producing energy and transferring matter communicating across space and time. Immediately, IV's thoughts turned to another facility he had visited, the Open Omega Supercomputer. Scientists there had been successful in combining human brain tissue with electronic components to build and immensely powerful computer. Could the brain of these creature be harnessed? Integrated into a system powerful enough to decode his failsafe? He began giving more and more exaggerated reports to the Administrators about teleportation technology at the base. As their attention grew he prepared his grounds. Every request for the facility was granted by the eager administrators. Gathering a small team of DEXIS agents he began to conduct reconnaissance missions into Xen, training his force them for the hostile world therein. It was during one operation that his team found the catalyst IV had been looking for: the sample that would later be pushed into the beam by Freeman. He knew the scientists would be eager to test it. All he needed now was to turn that test, into a distraction…

 

[Sprafa]

I have to say that your theory is absolutely and positively wrong in one point.

The Admin is Breen.

But the rest looks pretty neat, maybe you coul coop with Laidlaw into another one of his nuts novels...

 

[Myrmidon]

I really think Breen is just a face for the combine, their 'public relations' guy for City 17. A pawn. He has no power, just helps to keep control. He was probably just the mayor or governer pre-combine or something.

EDIT:

The way I believe it to be is that Breen was the administrator of Black Mesa (Lombardi has confirmed this), and the G-man used Freeman to tear apart Black Mesa in a sense hence ruining Black Mesa and taking away the Administrators administration.

Has he? can you link or tell which video it was stated?

 

[Mechagodzilla]

EDIT: Has he? can you link or tell which video it was stated?

Yup, it's true. I don't know which video though, but I think a link to it may be in the news section of this site. It's post-E3 2004.

 

[Myrmidon]

They shouldnt reveal stuff like that. Anyway he still has no power, or is working directly for the combine.

 

[Andy]

noting in my writeup suggests that one of the administrators isn't Breen. In fact it makes sense that he is one of these scientific type who seems to wield a great deal of authority.