Half Life 2 expansions?

[G(ordon)-man]

So, i was wondering, Valve made 2 expansions for hl1. After the episode, I think it would be cool to make them again (from somebody others perspective of course). And before you say it, episodes aren't expansions imo. Anyways, what are your thoughts about these expansions? And what they may contain?

 

[kineaesth]

So, i was wondering, Valve made 2 expansions for hl1.

No, they didn't.

After the episode, I think it would be cool to make them again (from somebody others perspective of course).

No, it wouldn't.

And before you say it, episodes aren't expansions imo. Anyways, what are your thoughts about these expansions? And what they may contain?

I don't think Valve is the type of company to make expansions. They'd do another game, yes. But not expansions.

 

[G(ordon)-man]

Ok, i didn't meant valve. Maybe they should contact gearbox again?

 

[Preator]

I reckon it would be great to make HL2 expansion from Barney's point of view or even Alyx that would rock, so much untold story from their point of views that could really lift the already kick ass HL2 game

 

[G(ordon)-man]

Yeah, those are good. And a rebels view from the riot in city 17 would rock also!

 

[Preator]

yeah that would dominate, I mean the behind the scene glimpses of areas really let you understand more of the story and these kind of point of views would make it a way better game

 

[Operational]

Problem being City 17 is where all the action is and HL2 + Ep1 covered it rather comprehensively.

If we were to get a game set during HL2+ I'd rather it set in another City. Maybe start if off just before all the Citadels bug out due to the damage to City 17's Citadel.

 

[G(ordon)-man]

Yes, that's true. Maybe you could play as a combine soldier, who ultimately discovers badness of the combine and converts sides.

 

[Druckles]

Thing is, Valve never did have much to do with the expansion packs for Half-Life. If you wanted a similar thing for Half-Life 2, you'd have to do it yourself or wait for someone in the community to do it, and they have. There are mods out there which tell different stories from different perspectives.

You might not get any as good as Gearbox's of course.

 

[G(ordon)-man]

Maybe. Then we want tf3 and portal 2!

 

[Pyroxic]

If we get any expansion, I want Barney's point-of-view from right after Episode 1 as we don't see Barney in Episode 2 so who knows what kind of shenanigans he's gotten himself into.

As for TF3? I doubt it.

With all the updates, and the updates still to come, that gives the game at least another 10 year life span. I mean, there's a third slot in the weapons for the classes with updates, which means a second update will be coming for them (AIYM CAMMING FOR YOO) in the future.

 

[Fiberawptic]

Not to sound like derailment, because i think this is related, but if i had choose between getting episodes after hl2 or expansions, i would easily say episodes. I think most of you would too, but since valve is taking on the episodic approach with HL2, which is a replacement for expansions (is short and uses most resources of an original game), id say i really dont care if there arent expansions in the future for HL2. I like episodes because its continuing the main story, not just canon like laidlaw says about gearboxs expansions. Plus we get newer things, like mechanics, environments, characters, enemies, and the story moves foward.

Sure a city 17 expansion where you play a rebel may be interesting, but its kind of a hoaky/unoriginal approach and theres already 50 mods out there like that...

if valve said there HAD to be expansions, it would be wise for them to let another 3rd-party developing team do it, just like the main reason gearbox wanted to do HL1 expansions was to help there company become bigger and a mianstream developer...

 

[Druckles]

Do you hump the episodic boxes in your spare time?

We're not having a discussion about the episodes, and I'd prefer it if you didn't bring them in here.

 

[Fiberawptic]

Do you hump the episodic boxes in your spare time?

We're not having a discussion about the episodes, and I'd prefer it if you didn't bring them in here.

Its related, so avoid being an ass about it. He was talking about possible HL2 expansions. Obviously we havent gotten any, and most likely wont because Valve is working on Episodes instead. I was saying episodes are more interesting, so i really dont mind if we dont get expansions. I also added that having a 3rd party team do it would be a really wise choice...

I can express my views or feelings on a topic if id like. Are you even a mod? or just a thorn in my ass?

 

[Pyroxic]

Wasn't Episode 1 originally an expansion pack back when it was called 'Aftermath'?

 

[Druckles]

Its related, so avoid being an ass about it.

No, it's not. We're talking about something completely different. It'd be like comparing Portal 2 to Prelude.

He was talking about possible HL2 expansions. Obviously we havent gotten any, and most likely wont because Valve is working on Episodes instead.

What's your point? No-one asked Valve to do them.

I was saying episodes are more interesting, so i really dont mind if we dont get expansions.

Again with the comparing Episodes to these "expansion packs". Episodes are full games. Analogy would be comparing a tv episode to the special features.

I also added that having a 3rd party team do it would be a really wise choice...

If you don't want Valve to stop work on the Episodes, this is a given.

I can express my views or feelings on a topic if id like. Are you even a mod? or just a thorn in my ass?

The latter. I'm a forumite, and like every forumite I can express how I disapprove of your derailing this thread. Sure, you can express your views on a topic, but only if it's relevant.

Besides, your views have been made obnoxiously clear already.

 

[Fiberawptic]

No, it's not. We're talking about something completely different. It'd be like comparing Portal 2 to Prelude.



What's your point? No-one asked Valve to do them.



Again with the comparing Episodes to these "expansion packs". Episodes are full games. Analogy would be comparing a tv episode to the special features.



If you don't want Valve to stop work on the Episodes, this is a given.



The latter. I'm a forumite, and like every forumite I can express how I disapprove of your derailing this thread. Sure, you can express your views on a topic, but only if it's relevant.

Besides, your views have been made obnoxiously clear already.

Im not one to become easily irritated, especially over the web, but your starting to piss me off. Stop trolling all over everything i write for christs sake. You want to disagree with what i say? You have every right to, but i have as much right to express my own thoughts, so instead of supressing ones opinion, try to productively counter them...

 

[G(ordon)-man]

Ok...i left this topic for 3 hours and i got derailed thread! Cool actually.

Anyways, Tf3 isn't coming soon right. And they took 10 years to make tf2 so i'll better shut up.

 

[Druckles]

Im not one to become easily irritated, especially over the web, but your starting to piss me off. Stop trolling all over everything i write for christs sake. You want to disagree with what i say? You have every right to, but i have as much right to express my own thoughts, so instead of supressing ones opinion, try to productively counter them...

You entered this thread and started speaking about a topic unrelated to this with views you've clearly expressed elsewhere. There's no use trying to push the blame elsewhere by accusing me of "trolling".

You've got every right to express your thoughts, but try to do it in a manner which isn't hindering a thread and without throwing it everywhere across the boards. There was no point in even bringing the episodes up. As far as I can tell, you're trolling your opinions.

 

[Xendance]

You entered this thread and started speaking about a topic unrelated to this with views you've clearly expressed elsewhere. There's no use trying to push the blame elsewhere by accusing me of "trolling".

You've got every right to express your thoughts, but try to do it in a manner which isn't hindering a thread and without throwing it everywhere across the boards. There was no point in even bringing the episodes up. As far as I can tell, you're trolling your opinions.

You've derailed the thread completely by arguing about it. What he said is related. You arguing is not.

 

[Druckles]

You've derailed the thread completely by arguing about it. What he said is related. You arguing is not.

And you think you just helped?

 

[Xendance]

And you think you just helped?

No, I don't think I've helped.

 

[giant384]

ugh please dont derail this thread about the difference between episodes and expansions. we already went over that enough along time ago.

i think its a great idea if a third-party developer creates "expansion" to the hl2 series, but if it doesn't happen then it doesn't happen. the chunk of an expansion in hl2 would be the same scenes that you see when when playing hl2 vanilla. i would personally like to see a hl2 prequel.

 

[kupocake]

I'd just like to pipe in and say that as much as I like the Episodes, I'm not going to defend them to the hilt and claim that they're anything but a new, super-awesomely refined way of doing an expansion. The only two notable differences between the Half-Life 2 Episodes and something like Quake's expansions is that A) They were made by the original developer and B) They generated enough market interest and narrative integrity, so that they actually matter enough to be strung into a series of expansion-sized titles, that result in a full-game length series.

Aside from that, what is there? People are just scared to admit that the Episodes are 'Expansions' because that's a dirty whore of a word. Similar titles elsewhere are currently being called 'Expandalones' by the gaming press, because their developers aren't pretending that they're anything else, yet they often come with more genuinely new content than any of Valve's episodes are actually arriving with.

I couldn't care less what they're called so long as they're good. I think the irony of this particular discussion is that Half-Life 1's Expansions, with their focus on a different player character and an alternative view of the original game's goings on, are actually less like traditional PC expansions than the Episodes themselves are, yet as Half-Life fans we set them apart and ask the question 'where are the expansions?' And in THAT sense, we already have Portal and should quit our moaning immediately.

 

[Druckles]

Back in here, please.

 

[kupocake]

Back in here, please.

I address the topic in my post, I'll kindly point out where if your reading eyes aren't up to the task.

11pm isn't the Druckles guest moderation hour.

 

[Druckles]

It started 10 minutes ago.

 

[Preator]

Ok back to the topic i would love to see some PoV HL2 games, just to see what was happening behind the scenes of different areas, i got a really craving for HL story so a PoV xpac would decimate the field with a blast of pure awesomeness, It's such an interesting story for a game and i mean damn woot for HL!!!!!

 

[G(ordon)-man]

You know what game valve should make? A game what shows the time between the combine invasion and the black mesa incident.And it should include fighting in the seven hour war too.

 

[Pyroxic]

You know what game valve should make? A game what shows the time between the combine invasion and the black mesa incident.And it should include fighting in the seven hour war too.

I've always thought of a POV game during the Seven Hour War. I know this is fanboyish, but I could always see Shepherd fighting in the Seven Hour War, but I mean, we lost it so that wouldn't be much of an ending, also this is just what I wanna see cause I have this weird hardon for Shepherd.

 

[Druckles]

I don't know of any Shepherd. Why would you have a hard on for someone not related to Half-Life?

 

[kazsymonds]

I've always thought of a POV game during the Seven Hour War. I know this is fanboyish, but I could always see Shepherd fighting in the Seven Hour War, but I mean, we lost it so that wouldn't be much of an ending, also this is just what I wanna see cause I have this weird hardon for Shepherd.

Yeah! I thought that too, that was one real interesting part of ep2 finding out about that, and the lack of details makes me want to see it more!

Like you said though, it would suck to lose, perhaps they should have put that in hl2, then we wouldnt know we lost until the end.

I dont agree that tf2 has another 10 years of life in it though!

 

[nurizeko]

Yes, that's true. Maybe you could play as a combine soldier, who ultimately discovers badness of the combine and converts sides.

Impossible, Combine soldiers are "enhanced" and mentally conditioned, lobotomized, you name it, chemically drugged up, any number of things.



Basically a Combine soldier isn't really human any more, precious few memories from before they were altered, and they have been "enhanced" so that as far as they are concerned the survival of the Combine is the most important thing ever.

You'd never be able to convince them to rebel. Its all part of the HL2 god aweful future scenario, what with the Combine slowly taking the humanity from Humanity.

 

[G(ordon)-man]

Yea, i know that. And plus it would remind OpFor too much

 

[Pyroxic]

I don't know of any Shepherd. Why would you have a hard on for someone not related to Half-Life?

That's how I roll.

 

[Druckles]

Easy way to remember it.

Shephard. Gordon.

Works surprisingly well.

 

[Pyroxic]

Easy way to remember it.

Shephard. Gordon.

Works surprisingly well.

I always get that letter in his last name wrong.

BUT LOL. Sig'd.

 

[Operational]

Yea, i know that.

If they really wanted a different perspective instead of a Combine Soldier they could go with a Metrocop who is either a loyal Combine ally or an infiltrator a la Barney.

 

[Fiberawptic]

7 hours war would be the best expansion, and if they did ineed feel like they should put shepard in there, have him be you, or some rebel commander that is you sgt. or something...

lets see if we can come up with other possible concepts besides 7 hours war...

 

[mrman234]

Yeah, those are good. And a rebels view from the riot in city 17 would rock also!

Playing as a Resistance member would indeed be wicked-awesome. Like with Blue Shift and OpFor it would allow them to make a new character that you haven't seen before, but you've still seen the kind of people you're dealing with.