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In Opposing force any of the games HL1 they have the soliders I know they were there to cover everything up the combine sent vortigaunts so they wouldn't lose as many combine, and my question is who in the hell were those fast ninja's (If you know what I mean black suits night vision and ****ing lighting fast!)
 
A: The Combine had nothing to do with Black Mesa.
B: They were the Military Assassins.
C: The military is our own U.S. Military, nothing that has to do with the combine.
 
:stare:No they had something to do with it they contacted breen and breen set it up but my question was who were those ninjas and I know the military was trying to cover up the black mesa incadent
 
They were a Black Ops team, part of the force sent to sweep up. Which is why ACepilot's answer B is quite correct.
 
The combine have never been on Xen, there is little reason to suspect they had anything to do with Black Mesa.
 
pwnage said:
:stare:No they had something to do with it they contacted breen and breen set it up but my question was who were those ninjas and I know the military was trying to cover up the black mesa incadent
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No, the Combine had absolutely NOTHING to do with Black Mesa, Xen, or the vortigaunts. They didn't know Breen either, for that matter.

Again, Acepilot is right, the 'ninjas' are the Black Ops from the US military.
 
Ya, pwnage read the "Marc Laidlaw vault" thread in the story and mythology section. The man who wrote the story (marc laidlaw) confirms the Combine had nothign to do with Xen - the Nihilanth and his vortigaunt slaves had run away from the combine to Xen, but their backs were up against the wall. They thought the resonance cascade was the combine presumbly. Thus why Nihi (as we lovingly call him) invaded. Or maybe he was just a jerk.

The point is, the Combine had nothing to do with the BMRF incident.
 
what are you guys talking about the military just didn't come in to rape us, its because breen made that one agreement that he will get protection a leadership of the planet if he helps the combine
 
thats in half life 2, in half life 1 the miltary come in to try to cover it all up
 
pwnage said:
what are you guys talking about the military just didn't come in to rape us, its because breen made that one agreement that he will get protection a leadership of the planet if he helps the combine
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Breen made that agreement at the end of the 7 Hour War, which was between HL1 and HL2. The military in HL1 were sent by the US government to cover up the BM incident.
 
pwnage said:
what are you guys talking about the military just didn't come in to rape us, its because breen made that one agreement that he will get protection a leadership of the planet if he helps the combine
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are you sriously going to argue with an entire website dedicated to the games your talking about, and think u are right and they are wrong????

u dont know what your talking about bud. HL1 = NO combine. at all. EVER. military came in to wipe out all the scientists and aliens. ninjas were part of the "elite" military division. got it????
 
pwnage said:
what are you guys talking about the military just didn't come in to rape us, its because breen made that one agreement that he will get protection a leadership of the planet if he helps the combine
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Stop it.
 
Oh sigh.

are you new to the game?

The combine only found earth after the black mesa incident. The combine are trying to get to xen probably to conquer. The black ops were there to cover up the military since they screwed up so badly.
 
Vortigaunts are elite Black Ops sent by the Combine to cover everything up. Headcrabs contacted Breen and set it up.
 
Operational said:
Vortigaunts are elite Black Ops sent by the Combine to cover everything up. Headcrabs contacted Breen and set it up.
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lol. u forgot to add that the cat in the hat is the real combine advisor, and that the combine came to earth on the starship enterprise. they are only interested in finding darth vader, because he stole their tripods and the tardis.
 
And Advisors are really headcrabs in lil suits.
 
I've played every Hl game 3 times at least, and the Combine sent the Voritgaunts I am reading this right now they sent the Vortigaunts not to lose as many combine since the vortigaunts were all under combines control since the combine took over the planet XEN. So yes maybe the combine were not in it but they were with the plan to invade earth.

AJ Rimmer said:
The combine have never been on Xen, there is little reason to suspect they had anything to do with Black Mesa.
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Thats why they have earth under control almost it HL2???lol?
 
pwnage said:
I've played every Hl game 3 times at least.
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We have played them more times. And you are wrong. The Combine did not send the Vortigaunts. Nihilanth sent the Vortigaunts and before you even start- No, Nihilanth was *not* under orders of the combine.

AND STOP DOUBLE-POSTING!

Thats why they have earth under control almost it HL2???lol?
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Because they invaded after the Portal Storms had ravaged Earth, many years after Black Mesa (These Portal Storms were caused by Black Mesa, however, the Portal Storms attracted the combine to Earth. The Portal Storms caused the combine to invade, not the other way around.) with a force far technologically superior to ours that outnumbered us vastly and appeared out of thin air.
 
pwnage said:
I've played every Hl game 3 times at least, and the Combine sent the Voritgaunts I am reading this right now they sent the Vortigaunts not to lose as many combine since the vortigaunts were all under combines control since the combine took over the planet XEN.
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Funny, because the guy who wrote the freaking story said that they didn't. You must know more than the guy who came up with all this.
Xen is not a planet, it is a border world. The creatures there had run from the combine, who were chasing them.

pwnage said:
So yes maybe the combine were not in it but they were with the plan to invade earth.
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No they weren't. The prima guide says that the combine found earth thanks to the huge energy signatures.

pwnage said:
Thats why they have earth under control almost it HL2???lol?
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Because, as Rimmer said, Earth had been devastated by portal storms - think black mesa, but global. Then the combine came, and ripped apart what remained of our forces, during the seven hour war.

Please listen to us. We know a shitload about the HL series, and we are total and utter HL geeks. We know these things after many years of itnerviews, guides, games, emails from the developers, rasing the bar, etc.
 
Oh man, major over-reaction Absinthe. You think this is the internet or something?
 
pwnage said:
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Dude... we've discussed these games over and over and over for the past four years on this board. We have had e-mail contact with the creators, we have gone over every interview, most of the active people in these forums have played through the games many, many, many times with commentaries, we've debated almost every concievable detail to death. We. Know. More. Than. You. Accept it dude.
 
I always question why some people vehemently defend their ridiculous theories in the face of evidence. Is it just because they don't want to be wrong? If you have a question and you come in looking for answers, and people GIVE you answers, why would you still sit there and say, "No you're all wrong it's this way?"

Look, bud. Playing through the games three times isn't a big deal. I have played Half-Life at LEAST once every three months for the past nine years. That means at the least, the very LEAST, I've played the first Half-Life thirty six times over. It's probably a lot more than that. Closer to fifty or sixty, because in that first year I just couldn't stop playing it. Most people on here also play the game regularly.

Most people on here have also sent e-mails to the developers. Do you understand the concept of developers? As in, the people who wrote the game's story. We've talked to them. Interviewed them. Asked them all sorts of questions about the storyline. And they have replied in a giant stickied thread that says, "Info from Valve" that you probably neglected to read before posting. So don't tell US that it's a certain way, since we've talked to the people who made the game. You're just some kid, probably young, who wandered in here and think you know about the storyline. We're friggin' nerds who live on this board. :laugh: Don't tell us, dude.

I don't mean to come off as an asshole, but you're wrong. Completely wrong. It isn't, "believe what you want," it's "believe what the creators have clarified," rather than believing in some ridiculous thing. The Combine were never on Xen. The Combine were not the vortigaunts' controllers. Maybe you're confusing the Xenians and the Combine, I don't know, but you're wrong. These are two different alien races we're talking about here. First game was the Xenians: Nihilanth, the Controllers, the Grunts, and the Vortigaunts. These races were on the run from the Combine, who are the Shu'ulathoi (slugs) and the synths. In Black Mesa you fought off the Xenians. Killing the Nihilanth created an energy release of massive proportions that ripped across Xen and Earth, and the Combine detected that energy. From there, they tunneled through from their universe to ours and started exterminating us.

Dr. Breen stepped up and convinced them to stop. THAT is why he has power, because he stopped the Seven Hour War (which occurred LONG after Black Mesa) and agreed to deliver Earth to them. Not before. How the hell would he have known about the Combine before they arrived? Does that make sense to you? Think about it. It makes NO sense. What I just posted is the story from the lips of the game's creators themselves. You cannot argue with it.
 
You guys shouldnt waste your time replying to what appears to be a pre-teenager.
 
When Mark Laidlaw.. (He wrote the HL1 story too, right?) wrote HL1, he had NO idea it would be that succesful, and hadn't even thoguht ahead to a HL2. The vortigaunts came on accident, during the resonance cascade, and were under the control of Nihilanth, the last boss of HL1. When you kill Nihilanth, the Vorts are released from his control and become friends with the Lambda Rebellion(HL2). Nihilanth was running from the Combine, and found this place to hide. The combine came during the portal storms a lil after HL1 and took over the earth in Seven hours. Yes, the vortigaunts and headcrabs and various Xen life did whittle us down to the point that even if the Mexicans attacked we would be screwed. The Combine took advantage of the Portal Storms, and likely had NO idea where they were headed. They found a fertile, mid-technological world and launched their citidels to take over. In Seven hours, we were screwed. They soon began to drain the Earth of it's natural rescources to fuel the Combine War Machine on more conquests.

Half-Life in a nutshell.
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You guys are really harsh. It's obvious he just read and accepted that site (you know the one I'm talking about), and missed the fine print where the author says its all his personal opinion.

I recommend putting up a sticky, saying not to believe anything written on that site. Better then doing nothing...
 
It is. I'm not going to bother linking you to it, because it'll only confuse you. Suffice to say that it is wrong.

It was once in Steam news, Valve called it "mostly" accurate, but it wasn't. The only nice thing that can be said about it was that the site itself looked nice. Aside from that, you don't want to bother with any of the information in there.

I can appreciate when someone takes time out to do something like that for the community, but it's just off.
 
Yeah, it's the so called "saga" site. First hit when searching on Google for Half-life's story. Sad, sad, sad.
 
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