It's just...meh...

[xombine]

I dunno...I've tried starting the game over 3 times now and just get bored almost instantly after leaving the dungeon every time. I run over to the market place, talk to some people, blah blah blah. I get lost and wind up attacking some shop keeper which in turn sends me on a wild goose chase from the guards. And then I exit the game. Is everyone totally enthralled by it? I know that Pitz wasn't...

 

[VirusType2]

I dunno...I've tried starting the game over 3 times now and just get bored almost instantly after leaving the dungeon every time. I run over to the market place, talk to some people, blah blah blah. I get lost and wind up attacking some shop keeper which in turn sends me on a wild goose chase from the guards. And then I exit the game. Is everyone totally enthralled by it? I know that Pitz wasn't...

I don't know. I didn't really like it at first when I played it on my brother's PC. It seemed boring. I think it was just too much to take in at one time. Figuring so many things at once was overwhelming. I played it for like 2 hours and I thought the first cave was way too long. I loved morrowind though, and re-installed it and was playing that.

Then, I got a mod that allows me to play Oblivion on my computer and everything became clear to me. I can't stop playing, it's tight.

Try it again in a couple weeks. It's like one of those songs you didn't like at first, but then you start to really love it. These kinds of songs are cool because you never get sick of these kinds.

 

[SAJ]

I dunno...I've tried starting the game over 3 times now and just get bored almost instantly after leaving the dungeon every time. I run over to the market place, talk to some people, blah blah blah. I get lost and wind up attacking some shop keeper which in turn sends me on a wild goose chase from the guards. And then I exit the game. Is everyone totally enthralled by it? I know that Pitz wasn't...

Perhaps you should try ritalin(prescription, not a console command).

But seriously, maybe esob's not for you.

 

[CookieCuttah]

Not me, the first day I got it I was enthralled by the graphics, the mass amount of people and mass amount of things to do. My problem was I couldn't stop playing.

 

[Pesmerga]

I'm with you Xombie.

There's simply no direction in the game.

 

[Bad^Hat]

That's kind of the point. It's made to be very non-linear and open-ended. That's not to say it's totally non-linear... some of the quests for example are extremely linear once you're actually on them (just follow the quest marker).

I can recognise that it's not for everyone, but it also can take some getting used to. When I first left the tutorial dungeon I was pretty stumped, and it seemed hard to find anything to do. But once you actually get into a quest or two, they actually seem to pile up to the point where you have TOO much to do

Take your time. Search out a few quests (if you're stumped and can't find any, try the main quest or join a guild), explore a dungen or two, get a feel for the game. Then decide you don't like it

Edit - Oh yeah, and have a look at some mods if some aspects of the game are hampering your experience. For example alot of people find the levelling/scaling system greatly detracts from the game's best aspect - getting out there and doing whatever you want. Some dislike the huge xbox'd out interface. You can find mods for alot of stuff like this if you look around a bit (or search out a mods thread right here).

 

[VirusType2]

I never really liked doing the quests at first because I was too lost. I don't know where anything is. So what I did, was go outside and keep going in a particular direction. Thats how you find a new cave to explore. There is literally some kind of cave or important landmark or shrine every minute or two of travel. Inside that cave is where the fun is. Fighting, leveling up, and finding treasure. You don't have to do any quests to enjoy the game if you don't want to, but they are there if you like them, and there are many.

 

[AiM]

It's wierd, when I first started I was enthralled by it ... at least until the bug / glitches started hitting me. Now that I fixed most of it, the game just doesn't appeal to me anymore. The non-linear aspect was cool for about 30 hours, then everything just seems repetitive to me now. Once I got past the shallow combat system, the game just feels like a big MMO grind-fest, just that it's on single-player.

 

[Spoonoop]

Oblivion has had me pretty hooked since I bought it. Once I've gotten really powerful with my first character things have kind of slowed down. I have my 33 warrior, beat the main quest, and cant seem to get any stronger, so I haven't been playing all that much lately.

 

[Unfocused]

At first I played a good battlemage. After completing the main quest (which I started quite late) I was about lvl 30 and was pretty kickass, so I simply did a few more quests and then started a sneaky-bad-archer-assassin/thief type to do the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild quests. now that's a whole different game ;] I got a bit bored with caves etc. after playing with my 1st char, so I simply focused on the quests.

First char - over 80 hours.
Second char - over 30 hours.

Over 110 hours of having fun - a very good game. :thumbs:

 

[Jintor]

The non-linear aspect was cool for about 30 hours, then everything just seems repetitive to me now.

These days, 30 hours enjoyment out of a game is damn fine.

I got nothing out of Morrowind, but Oblivion just keeps on giving and giving. All I get so much enjoyment simply from exploring, not to mention doing quests and fighting and being sneaky and shit. It's just, you know, fun.

 

[sinkoman]

I can't see how ANYBODY couldn't like this game

It's like basically every ****ing game you've ever played mashed into one.

You have to give it a VERY LONG chance to get into it. I hated it at first. Thought it was way too boring, cause I didn't know what to do with myself. I knew of one quest, and that was it. The only reason I was hooked was because of the graphics.

Then I found an Ayleid ruin, and in turn, my first Aylied statue.

Sold it to the highest seller in the Imperial (this is before i'd traveled anywhere out of it) and ended up finding my first "find and sell" quest. Shortly after getting the quest, I robbed the quest giver silly.

Which started me on my robbing spree, which started my character on the thief path (well, moreso that I had intended). Which in turn, netted me with a ton of stuff, and nowhere to dump it.

Then I got my first horse (no stealing, followed the main quest. I advise you do to. After you get the horse, don't touch the bastard with a ****ing MILE LONG POLE!). Now I started exploring new lands, which in turn, led to dungeons, which led to more ayleid ruins, which led to my favorite part of the game, bandit camps.

Which led to more robbing, which led to more stuff that I couldn't get rid of. Mind you, I still thought at this point that the game was stupid.

After visiting the arena for some cash (still bored, but needed money), I got my first REAL quest (besides jensin. Bitch pays you barely anything). That Gray Prince guy.

Which led to the ****ing scariest video game experience ever, which led to me going "HOLY SHIT THAT WAS AWESOME!", which started my crime spree, which led to me having stuff to get rid of.

Which led to my joining of the thieves guild, which leads to me robbing every single mother****er I can find. Counts, Guards, Shop Owners, EVERYBODY.

Which brings me to being hooked on this game...

Once you find something to do, it gets a helluva lot more fun.

I mean, as I said, it's like every single game mashed into one.

Wanna be an assasin? Beef up your bow skills and join the DB. Wanna be a thief? Beef up your acrobatics and Sneak and dash around town with nobody the wiser. Wanna be a woodsman? Build a Bow Thief with a ton of elemental shits. Wanna be a shitty little troll that roams the forest killing every single settlement he finds off? Build a really short ogre and beef up his defenses.

I mean, you can do whatever the hell you want. The possibilities are mindblowing. You could build a gladiator, a bridge troll, a Batman like Knight, hell, you can even make Jesus! Complete with water walking!

 

[Cormeh]

I dunno...I've tried starting the game over 3 times now and just get bored almost instantly after leaving the dungeon every time. I run over to the market place, talk to some people, blah blah blah. I get lost and wind up attacking some shop keeper which in turn sends me on a wild goose chase from the guards. And then I exit the game. Is everyone totally enthralled by it? I know that Pitz wasn't...

Maybe if you can restrain yourself from attacking people for no reason you might give the game and yourself a chance to get into things.

 

[Lucid]

Maybe if you can restrain yourself from attacking people for no reason you might give the game and yourself a chance to get into things.

It's just so tempting...

I usually quicksave when I know my urge to bash the shopkeeper's face in is about to let out.

 

[jimbo118]

i havent played oblvion in weeks tbh, i really enjoyed at first but lost interest after awhile, the combat isn't very good imo and gets tedious quickly and a.i isnt special at all. The whole leveling system made it a pain in the ass after awhile as it seemed to take forever to kill anything, 30 arrows for a bear ffs!!!i need a decent levling mod i guess.

 

[VirusType2]

i havent played oblvion in weeks tbh, i really enjoyed at first but lost interest after awhile, the combat isn't very good imo and gets tedious quickly and a.i isnt special at all. The whole leveling system made it a pain in the ass after awhile as it seemed to take forever to kill anything, 30 arrows for a bear ffs!!!i need a decent levling mod i guess.

I think you probably needed to boost your agility if you want to do damage with a bow. My agility is like 65 and it doesn't do very much damage, but some monsters are really dangerous up close so it's great to have the bow to fall back on and keep firing as you run backwards. Some times its great for killing monsters that are on a different level than you (up high, down low) It takes me about 15 shots to kill something if I use only the bow. You can shoot down to them from above and they can't do anything.

I use the bow from long range while stealthed for several times the damage - and the higher your stealth skill, the higher the damage multiplier. I fire a couple shots, then switch to my sword (100 strength). By the time the monster runs up to me, my sword is out, and I'm ready to rock.

It's also quite useful as it can easily fit though the grating in doors and disarm traps. It can also be used to knock items into reach.

Recently I found a magic bow that is pretty nice. More base damage than ebony bow and bonus +20 shock damage per strike. I am skilled enough at armor repair that I can fix magical items as well.


I love the leveling system the game uses, I don't see what is wrong with it tbh

By the way - the combat isn't very good? Ha.. well what games do you think are better? I haven't seen combat this perfect in a RPG game in my life. Maybe you would better enjoy a Final Fantasy game where you hold down the A or X button and it automatically tells all your characters in your party to do their best attack. The only time you actually have to use your brain is in rare circumstances and boss fights. ZZZ!

 

[VictimOfScience]

The game is amazing because you have so many quests to finish. Even after the main quest there are 4 guilds and the arena and the daedric shrines, not to mention countless other random quests from npcs. If you get bored with this game, you are in a sorry state indeed and I for one feel very bad for you. ;(

That said, the Oblivion gates have gotten terribly boring! That's the only repetition I have found in the game really, but it is really irksome!

 

[jimbo118]

By the way - the combat isn't very good? Ha.. well what games do you think are better? I haven't seen combat this perfect in a RPG game in my life. Maybe you would better enjoy a Final Fantasy game where you hold down the A or X button and it automatically tells all your characters in your party to do their best attack. The only time you actually have to use your brain is in rare circumstances and boss fights. ZZZ!

Dont patronise. I dont play rpgs at all tbh so im not judging it against others. I just found the combat boring, hit, block, hit, block, repeat.

 

[Jintor]

Pah, there's no way you were playing my Oblivion. It was hit, block, hit, block, hit hit hit hithithitSTRIKE block dodge cast dodge run run run drink potion poison blade cast hide SNEAKATTACKhitstrikeblockblockhithitdie.

Damn.

 

[jimbo118]

Pah, there's no way you were playing my Oblivion. It was hit, block, hit, block, hit hit hit hithithitSTRIKE block dodge cast dodge run run run drink potion poison blade cast hide SNEAKATTACKhitstrikeblockblockhithitdie.

Damn.

lolz

 

[VirusType2]

Jimbo

This is the best game ever made. I would give this game a 10. I wouldn't have given a score of 10 to any game since Goldeneye on the N64. I have always dreamed of a good First person sword fighting game and this one is really good. This is a rare game type. Where there is another First person sword fighting game to even come close to what this game offers then I will be in heaven. There are so many FPS shooter games and I don't see why there can't be a fist fighting FPS or a Magic one or a sword, axe, dagger, mace, staff one. And oblivion is all of those in one, effectively being more than one game.

I was making the comparison, I never said you were comparing it to anything. I made the comparison because Final Fantasy is a great game - and in my opinion, Oblivion is many times better. I made the comparison to convince you that it is a great game, and to give it another chance.


Jimbo. If you say the combat is boring and the game is tedious, then I would want to know what you think are exciting games to play, so I can consider playing them. I am disappointed that you would be insulted by me asking this because I think it is a cop-out. You aren't willing to put any work into your post and list a few games to argue your point and convince me that better games exist because I'm convinced they do not.

I don't read game magazines, I don't search for info on the newest games that aren't out yet. I'd rather play a really fun game than constantly wait for some game that 'might' be a great game when it finally comes out, because more often than not, the game turns out to be a big disappointment.


Judging by your avatar I assume that you are a Metal Gear fan. Well, in my not-so-humble opinion, that game is very boring, and consists of sneaking around and waiting for the AI to patrol it's pre-programed course, and if you are seen by the enemy it's game over. To me that is actually like torture to me, maybe because I have ADD, and I need something to be happening. Waiting up to a minute for an NPC to go the **** away so I can finally walk to the next room only to accidentally walk into some other booby trap or be seen by the next guy.

So I guess it's just a matter of preference in games, and our taste in games is quite different.

I never meant to create any friction, I guess I'm just hopped up, I just had 2 cups of coffee.

What I really want to do is upload a video of me fighting epic battles with the guard team and civilians and generally terrorizing the city, and I'm nearly sure that you would find it would be quite entertaining, and may inspire you to hone your skills and pick the game back up again. Not boring.

I don't think me trying to convince you that the combat is great and better than any other game of it's type qualifies as patronizing. I'm sorry if I insulted you, I didn't even imagine that what I said could be insulting, it's just me being excited and passionate about something. Video game politics if you will.


Jimbo doesn't like the game, np dude, I was merely arguing against the game being boring, anyone could have said it. My reply wasn't even to you, it was to voice my opinion and argue that it's not boring to me! Not at all. Everytime I fight it's gaming zen

I take it you didn't play or enjoy Morrowind. If you had, then you would realize how awesome and improved the game play in Oblivion is. You can decide when to block, not some random chance based on your block number. You decide what type of attack to use, whether to do a succession of quick combos or a power attack. Whether to attempt to use a power move to knock down an opponent, knock their weapon from their hand, or counter their attack. You can step back and cause them to miss, effectively setting them up for a 6 or 8 hit combo to finish them off. I recommend a long 1 hand sword or a 2 hand sword so you can stay a bit further away and much more easily cause them to miss. A counter attack is much quicker and more effective than attacking after blocking.

Well I'm going to go hurt something. Sorry for the misunderstanding!

 

[jimbo118]

No probs, i wasnt mad at you or anything, most of my problems with the game are just the levelling system, i'm a thief and levelled up fast with my sneak skills etc so combat became an incredible long drawn out chore for me. If it got a decent levelling mod i'd pick it up again but dont really have the time to play it anymore neway .

 

[Laivasse]

All I get so much enjoyment simply from exploring, not to mention doing quests and fighting and being sneaky and shit. It's just, you know, fun.

QFT. This is SO a game for people who just love the idea of exploring. I've never used fast travel and never will, not because of some elitist rule, but because I feel like I'm robbing myself of the whole point of the game if I cut out the hour's worth of gameplay I would get from tracking across wilderness to get to where I want to go.

I get a weird thrill from just looking at a far away map location and planning my route to get there. I didn't create some ubergod character (Argonian seems to be a good choice if you want a challenge) so even heading through wilderness can be a bit of a risk, but on the other hand I just about made it through Kvatch at level 10 so he can't be too bad.

If you're not excited by the idea of, say, running through a rainy forest in the dead of night with a couple of trolls on your tail, only to stumble across a road and be bailed out by a torch-carrying imperial policeman, then maybe Oblivion just really isn't for you.

 

[Parlez]

I dunno...I've tried starting the game over 3 times now and just get bored almost instantly after leaving the dungeon every time. I run over to the market place, talk to some people, blah blah blah. I get lost and wind up attacking some shop keeper which in turn sends me on a wild goose chase from the guards. And then I exit the game. Is everyone totally enthralled by it? I know that Pitz wasn't...

I felt the same way when my brother let me play it. I got out of the dungeon and then I started to walk around. Then I got to the 1rst gate and went through it then closed it. And that is the last time I played it. I handed it back to my brother and said that I don't play it anymore. I guess the game is just not my style

 

[Laivasse]

I felt the same way when my brother let me play it. I got out of the dungeon and then I started to walk around. Then I got to the 1rst gate and went through it then closed it. And that is the last time I played it. I handed it back to my brother and said that I don't play it anymore. I guess the game is just not my style

Sounds like you followed the main quest immediately. That's not necessarily wrong, but it's only a tiny part of Oblivion...the game could probably even exist without it.

At the same time, if you didn't enjoy doing that much then maybe Oblivion really isn't for you, but the Oblivion gates are probably the least enjoyable part of the game IMO.

 

[VirusType2]

Sounds like you followed the main quest immediately. That's not necessarily wrong, but it's only a tiny part of Oblivion...the game could probably even exist without it.

At the same time, if you didn't enjoy doing that much then maybe Oblivion really isn't for you, but the Oblivion gates are probably the least enjoyable part of the game IMO.

I think it's harder to get into a game that isn't yours and you didn't select it. I bought it, it didn't run on my computer and I was like here you play it for now. And I made a toon and played it for a while on his PC.. Then came oldblivion


He's playing Everquest again lately, so you know how that goes. He's agreed to trade PC's for a while (his is way better but could use more RAM) so I can play Oblivion without Oldblivion, but ehhhh transfering my 2nd hard drive, installing all my stuff, ... yuck. soon enough. Really I don't need to do all of that, I just need to delete all my porn since he isn't old enough.

 

[AiM]

My biggest gripe with this game is the fact that it's lost the RPG element, the whole game feels like an Action game that has RPG elements tacked on. I want the feel of finding completely rare items at dungeon's that have set level monsters. I want to be able to feel my character progress in strength. The quest's are numerous, but they all feel the same "spy, kill, defend, etc" and it just feels repetitive. The whole game feels repetitive because as an action game, the combat feels very linear, block / hit hit hit / block / heal rise and repeat. My problem with the game has more to do with the design decisions more than anything else. I guess they made these sacrifices to appeal more to the mainstream audience, which is understandable but I personally don't like some of the changes.

 

[xombine]

Yeah you guys all make good points, maybe I'll give it another go. Or mayb RPGs just aren't for me. :/

 

[CookieCuttah]

I get a thrill out of exploring many dungeons, many of them have unique traps. (I just today saw the moving wall trap) and also I still find many weapons I use in creative ways.

 

[xombine]

Yeah I found it really fun to release that first trap with the rolling logs onto the goblins.

 

[JNightshade]

I'm definitely in love with this game. I've put 130 hours of gameplay into one character- does that tell you anything?

 

[AiM]

I'm definitely in love with this game. I've put 130 hours of gameplay into one character- does that tell you anything?

It's gonna rain...

D:

 

[sinkoman]

I'm definitely in love with this game. I've put 130 hours of gameplay into one character- does that tell you anything?

That you should never go outside.

 

[Pesmerga]

That you should never go outside.

Or else... he'll melt?

 

[sinkoman]

Or else... he'll melt?

Jes.

Over the weekend, I too shall ascend to such a state.

 

[Jintor]

I went outside yesterday... it started raining. As soon as I got home, it cleared up.

The lag was horrendeous.

 

[CookieCuttah]

I stay indoors for good fps.

 

[AiM]

I stay indoors for good fps.

I bet you do that in real life too

:naughty:

 

[alehm]

I'm with you Xombie.

There's simply no direction in the game.

When I first came out of the dungeon I was like "mmm key what do I do next?"

The point is to do whatever you want. You won't know what is to do in the game unless you discover them.

Lets see:
You have the main quest (saving the Emporers son)
Fighters Guild quests
Mages Guild quests
Dark Brotherhood quests
Thieves Guild quests
tons of side quests from just going town to town and talking to the residents
or doing no quests at all and go around looting ruins and caves ect

I will say just because Oblivion (IMO) is a very good RPG game doesn't mean everyone is going to like it. I don't care for Real Time Strategies, even if a game is deemed a very good RTS I probably won't like it. It's no big deal.

You may be more into FPS like Half Life than something like this, its just what you like and thats all that matters.

 

[CookieCuttah]

No, in real life I have uber fps of 24, never going up or down. Though cuse of all the cool effects it makes it look like 72!