Just got my new HardDrive..

[CyberPitz]

I just bought a 300 gig SATA 3 mb/s drive..I believe it is 7200, actually, I know it is. Anyway, just got it plugged in, and my idea was to use my 300 for storage, and my 80 gig IDE drive for my OS. I had a bad experience of using a cheap drive as my main, since it died in a year. Anyway, just curious, if you guys think I'd get a huge buff from the 3 mb/s over my IDE drive for accessing files, and if it's even worth it?

 

[63]

300GB is overkill.

 

[Vegeta897]

Negative... I am using both my 120GBs to their fullest, and I could use more.

 

[63]

That's a lot of hentai.

 

[giant384]

today 300gb is becoming a standard, but if your just using it for storage like music,videos,programs(ones that you arent running) then the buffer will be minimal to tell the difference at all. in games or programs that tend to take alot of pc load then yes it might be alittle lag.

 

[63]

today 300gb is becoming a standard, but if your just using it for storage like music,videos,programs(ones that you arent running) then the buffer will be minimal to tell the difference at all. in games or programs that tend to take alot of pc load then yes it might be alittle lag.

It may be standard, but it's still sheer overkill for the average user.

 

[Fliko]

No, underkill for the Average User, because they never clean up their computer and use Limewire...

 

[CyberPitz]

It may be standard, but it's still sheer overkill for the average user.

Well it's not overkill for me at all...I have been struggling with space for over a year now with my 80 gig.

 

[giant384]

a hard drive can never really be an overkill. you will just most likely never run out of space to put data on.

 

[63]

a hard drive can never really be an overkill. you will just most likely never run out of space to put data on.

Let me rephrase: average users are paying for something they do not use.

 

[giant384]

Let me rephrase: average users are paying for something they do not use.

who says they wont???? your argument in this is pointless

 

[Asus]

Hard drives average less than 100mb/s. So even the standard SATA spec which allows 150Mb/s isn't being reached with a typical drive. Faster spin speed does help though (10,000RPM vs 7,200RPM).

 

[Qonfused]

I thought my 200GB was huge next to my old 80GB hard drive. I'm now at 80% usage.

 

[63]

who says they wont???? your argument in this is pointless

What? As much as you'd like to think, the people on this forum are not average users. Think of the big picture.

 

[Krynn72]

I have a 300 gig drive, with < 60 gigs left, a 80 drive full, an external 250 gig with 100 used, and a 160gig external full.

 

[Zephos]

I only have a 120gb drive, don't need **** all else.

 

[The Brick]

I guess I'm not an avarage user :|

I have one 80gb IDE drive as a system drive (program files included). Then I have one 320gb sata2 for my games, and another 320gb sata2 for my personal junk. And uhm.. well my personal junk drive was full a long time ago so now I'm wasting space on the game drive :E

720gb, about 70% used.

 

[3ssence]

Hmm, i have a 250gb Sata II Hitachi Deskstar as my OS drive, with all the little programs, office, fraps, adobe reader etc etc installed, and a 74gb raptor with my games on. I have used 33gb of the Deskstar and around 40gb of the Raptor. I tend to uninstall games that i haven't touched in a while, so i guess that saves some space.

I dl the latest demos that i fancy and episodes of stuff i like, like purepwnage, and a third or so of my music collection (for my mp3 player), but other than that i don't feel the need to put my entire music collection on my pc and can't imagine filling up that entire space !

 

[[RnL]Stefan]

use this new sata drive for OS and programs you will REALLY like the difference. make a partition for your OS(10-15 gigs) and one for the rest, so you dont lose everything if you have to resetup your system. it's not about size here but speed, its a lot faster.

maybe make 3 partitions (easier to manage when it comes to defragmenting). keep the IDE drive as backup drive or something.

 

[Asuka]

300GB is overkill.

NO WAY! I have 250 external 320 internal and 74 raptor for os and im BEGGING for more space. For the new pc im thinking of going 140 raptor for os 2x 320 gig for storage.

 

[Link]

You can get 500 gig drives now Asuka. 1 TB of space anyone?

 

[CyberPitz]

Hard drives average less than 100mb/s. So even the standard SATA spec which allows 150Mb/s isn't being reached with a typical drive. Faster spin speed does help though (10,000RPM vs 7,200RPM).

So since both my drives are 7200 rpms then it wouldn't truly matter which drive I install then? Just had a friend who said it would be faster to put it on my SATA, even though I didn't think it would be much if any.

 

[Link]

No, they will both be slower than thier connections

Check toms hardware for hard drive comparisions (they have an interactive chart). Check which drive has the fastest output and seek times, and use that for your OS and games

 

[[RnL]Stefan]

maybe they're both slower than what they could reach but the SATA drive will def. be faster than the IDE drive. when i got my SATA drives i benchmarked them and they were a lot faster than my old IDE drive which is now doomed to spend the rest of its live in a aluminum casing as backup drive..muahahaha.

let alone your new drive probably has more cache.

 

[Link]

And thats because the old drive was IDE and the mew drive was SATA? Not, for example, because the old drive was old and the new drive was new?

New model drives are generally faster than old ones.

 

[[RnL]Stefan]

And thats because the old drive was IDE and the mew drive was SATA? Not, for example, because the old drive was old and the new drive was new?

New model drives are generally faster than old ones.

both 7200 rpm drives, the IDE one with 2mb cache, the SATA one with 8mb cache. Both WD drives, one 120gigs, the other one 250 gigs.

 

[Link]

Thats nice. You completly missed my point. If you were to take 2 identical drives, one on sata and one on IDE, they would logically perform identically, assuming neither was faster that IDEs 100Mbs, which no current drive is.

 

[Asus]

I've thought about getting a bigger main drive but I've always used a 40gb or 80gb and removed programs and games that I do not use. At the moment I have a 74GB WD Raptor with about 16gb free. My other drives are pretty big though (and full..i need to burn some DVDs). 2 WD 500GB drives and a Samsung 400gb external. I save TV shows that I have recorded from my Cable TV on those drives (I have ~800GB of episodes that need commercials edited and 340GB ready for DVD atm) and other files like music and downloads.

I have all the temporary files (downloads, pagefile, files to be burned etc) saving to my secondary drive so my main drive stays defragmented and so my PC isn't bottlenecked by having to read everything from 1 drive. The main reason why I don't use multiple partitions to split up the OS and programs is because so many programs require a registry entry. Reinstall the OS and you are starting with a fresh registry so you may need to reintstall a number of programs anyway. Some of those might work without an entry up until you want to install an updated version of that program. The upgrade install looks for the registry entry and says you don't have that software on your PC. Can't go any further. :x
I always save my projects/save files on a secondary drive anyway.

I used to use multiple partitions on a 80GB drive to split up OS/programs from misc. files to keep it defragged. But now I just save those other files on a different drive.

 

[CyberPitz]

yeah, I kept running out of space on my 80 gig, I NEED something bigger, I would have gone with a 500 gig, which would last me maybe 3 months...but yeah, this will have to do.

But for some reason, my computer recognizes my SATA secondary drive as a "Removable drive"

WTF?

 

[Geogaddi]

I just installed my 500 gig! MUAHAHAHA! I named him Big Ron.

 

[The Brick]

But for some reason, my computer recognizes my SATA secondary drive as a "Removable drive"

WTF?

Yeah it's because Sata drives are removable. You can hotswap them while the pc is running (IIRC).

 

[CyberPitz]

Yeah it's because Sata drives are removable. You can hotswap them while the pc is running (IIRC).

Holy shit, I had no idea about that...

Sounds dangerous!

 

[Geogaddi]

Me and Qonfused are getting together later for a hot swap later IIRC.

 

[JFry]

hot swap your mom