My proposition for the deaths in future episodes of HL2, 3, etc

[MiccyNarc]

I firmly believe that every single character, from Barney to Gordon, will be dead by the time the series ends. Gordon will be the last casualty, along with the rest of the human race. I think Gordon is being used to destroy the human race, and he's been doing a great job so far.
"Tell me Doctor Freeman if you can....you have destroyed so much, what is it exactly that you created...can you name even one thing...I thought not."
-Dr. Breen

 

[Remus]

Nope, don't think so. I don't see the HL story having a "bad" ending.

*Everyone on Earth dead, Gordon Freeman last survivor*
Gordon: Oh well, I tried... now where did I put that crowbar...

 

[kupocake]

Nah. Maybe the G-Man's intentions so far have made Earth a partial casualty but I doubt his objective is the destruction of the human race, but whatever it actually is may involve humanity as collateral damage. Besides, his influence has ended and humanity is starting to fight back against the combine.

Most importantly, Valve wouldn't be stupid enough to make such a highly linear game in which the death of the player's friends, the entire human race and finally the player is scripted one after the other. Though the games are reknowned for being "on rails", Valve does like to still offer the player the illusion that they're not entirely subject to the story-writers whims. Forcing the player down a series of triggers would just kill off people's interest: they want to feel like they can change things for the better. A game with only a catastrophic ending wouldn't be very popular. A game with only a happy ending would be. A game with both available would be brilliant, but unlikely to come out of Valve.

 

[Darkside55]

How's it unlikely from Valve? You got the choice in HL1, remember?

One of the essential themes of the game is choices. If you had to make a choice at the end of the Half-Life series, a real choice, that'd be a good way to end.

 

[MiccyNarc]

. Besides, his influence has ended

ROFL no.

humanity is starting to fight back against the combine.

What is humanity going to do against the combine? It's a massive military force spanning thousands of galaxies. Humans have earth. If the Combine wants to take out Earth, it's going to.

The only way for humanity to survive, without making the series completely contrived, is for another race more powerful than the Combine attack and destroy them. Otherwise they could just get bored with us.
Then option A is that they leave us alone, option B is that they annihilate us with some planet destroying device.

 

[SpotEnemyBoats]

option B is that they annihilate us with some planet destroying device.

*Dr. Evils voice* A giant "Laser beam" Muhahahaha *Dr. Evils voice*

 

[kupocake]

ROFL no.

You personally link the deaths to the G-Mans influence, yet this has clearly receeded for Episode Two where supposedly the first death will come.

The only way for humanity to survive, without making the series completely contrived, is for another race more powerful than the Combine attack and destroy them. Otherwise they could just get bored with us.
Then option A is that they leave us alone, option B is that they annihilate us with some planet destroying device.

My guess is that Humanity is going to find a way to prevent the Combine from reaching earth, not to defeat them one on one. Hence they are forced to "leave us alone". The idea of the game ending in catastrophe is pretty much unprecedented. Half-Life may be bleak, but it's not Defcon, and it sounds frankly unlikely.

Unless the project turns out to be a Giant HEV suit called the Gordeon, powered by the mysterious power of "gorde", that ultimately shall destroy the entire universe when it explodes in the climatic movie sequel. This makes perfect sense and should be adopted post haste. Altogether now:

"hito yo inochi yo
hajimari wo miru
space runaway gordeon gordeon
space runaway gordeon gordeon"

 

[Darkside55]

Fukkatsu no Gordeon!

 

[kupocake]

Fukkatsu no Gordeon!

You win a Cosmo 'Fro for your efforts.

 

[Jintor]

Valve does like to still offer the player the illusion that they're not entirely subject to the story-writers whims.

"Rather than offer you the illusion of free choice, I will take the liberty of choosing for you if and when your time comes around again"

 

[Asknoone]

option B is that they annihilate us with some planet destroying device.

Go cliche's

 

[SpotEnemyBoats]

Go cliche's

And the combine will do it if their demands are not met, they will do it at the ransom of....."One Million Dollars" *puts pinky by the side of lip*

 

[MiccyNarc]

Go cliche's

You know what's another cliche? the good guys winning

 

[Narvi]

What they should do is build a "Star Destroyer", which we know Earth can build, as seen in the stunning documentary "Star Wars". Their previous "Star Destroyers" were, no doubt, disabled by Dr Breen prior to the Combine invasion, but if they can build another than the Combine will fall under the might of the asteroid-melting "Turbolasers". If they can rebuild the "blaster" infrastructure too, then more power to them. They should then rename the planet Coruscant, and rebuild its great ecumenopolis. Only then can the minions of Xen and the Combine be defeated... for they underestimate the power of the Dark Side of the Force.

Oh, and Doc Kleiner should definitely die. He'll fight off hordes of Xen monsters, then suddenly suffer a thyroid embolism. Always a danger at his age, unfortunately.

 

[Remus]

^^ You are completely out there my friend

You know what's another cliche? the good guys winning

Well evil winning wouldn't be all that original either, just read a few of Stephen King's books and you'll see what I mean:E .

Besides the Combine don't have to use some planet destroying device we're gonna do it ourselves next year with our little black hole generator TM

 

[Asknoone]

You know what's another cliche? the good guys winning

Define 'winning'. The resistance manage to cut the Combine from Earth completely - ok. What then? There are still several remaining Citadels (most likely functioning), the planet is teetering on the brink of no return – its resources have been sucked dry, the human population is down to an absolute minimum and it is overrun with Xenian wildlife.

Clearly, our prospects are high!

 

[Narvi]

As long as we don't have a deus ex machina, I'm fine with anyway it ends. Though if it's a good one like Stargate (sometimes) does, then I'm fine with that too.

 

[Jintor]

Define 'winning'. The resistance manage to cut the Combine from Earth completely - ok. What then? There are still several remaining Citadels (most likely functioning), the planet is teetering on the brink of no return – its resources have been sucked dry, the human population is down to an absolute minimum and it is overrun with Xenian wildlife.

Clearly, our prospects are high!

But there's no friggin Combine Reinforcements. This way, our chance is more than 0%. That's winning. You gotta take what you can.

 

[ríomhaire]

I hope the series ends with Gordon being able to make a choice, Samon disagrees.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Define 'winning'. The resistance manage to cut the Combine from Earth completely - ok. What then? There are still several remaining Citadels (most likely functioning), the planet is teetering on the brink of no return – its resources have been sucked dry, the human population is down to an absolute minimum and it is overrun with Xenian wildlife.

Clearly, our prospects are high!

You just proved my point, gj.

But there's no friggin Combine Reinforcements. This way, our chance is more than 0%. That's winning. You gotta take what you can.

Huh? There's gazillions of Combine out there, and they'll find a way to earth if they want to.

 

[Darkside55]

"Inevitable second return"

 

[Ashitaka]

I agree, the combine can do whatever they want with humanity. An ant can't stop us from crushing them underfoot. Someone like the G-man, however. Though he has appeared to have lost his influence, I think he'll have more importance in the story.

Unity has over-thrown one citadel, but what about the others?

First post. Yay. >_<

 

[Darkside55]

I agree, the combine can do whatever they want with humanity. An ant can't stop us from crushing them underfoot. Someone like the G-man, however. Though he has appeared to have lost his influence, I think he'll have more importance in the story.

Unity has over-thrown one citadel, but what about the others?

First post. Yay. >_<

Welcome to the forums. Let me say you're off to a good start because I completely agree with your first paragraph. :thumbs:

As to the other citadels, it's unknown if there's a sizeable enough resistance in other cities to topple them. Plus, they don't have the benefit of Gordon Freeman.

 

[SpotEnemyBoats]

I don't think we will be seeing lots more of G-man after Episode Two, because of the fact that Gabe Newell told us that after the Episode's G-man has completely lost control of you. Therefore, I firmly believe that G-man will disapear from the hl universe because he would be considered "Irrelevant"

That is my two cents. :cheers:

 

[Que-Ever]

Yes. I want everybody to die. I'm sick of happy endings. I want everything to go wrong.

G-man leads his mysterious benfactor's army to earth to wipe out the remaining combine and humans so they can make use of the depleting, yet valuable, resources on earth. The series ends while you are help in a torture chamber, and looking through a window, you can see the cities of earth being mowed down like grass, while you slowly succumb to the inflictions, and your vision fades to black.

Doesn't make sense at all, and even if it did, I just said it, so that automatically means it's never gonna happen.

 

[Asknoone]

You just proved my point, gj.

No, not really.

 

[Jintor]

Huh? There's gazillions of Combine out there, and they'll find a way to earth if they want to.

I meant if the whole missile stop Combine reinforcements yadayadayada thingy that Kleiner may-or-may-not be up to actually works.

 

[MiccyNarc]

No, not really.

My point was that in the end of the series humanity is going to be wiped out, and the good guys aren't going to win this one. Your post merely served to back up my point, therefore....

Therefore, I firmly believe that G-man will disapear from the hl universe because he would be considered "Irrelevant"

Eh? He's lost control of you, but he doesn't seem to happy about that.
Valve isn't going to create this character that the game practically revolves around, and then just suddenly say "Oh okay he lost control of you and he's gone now"

That's silly. There are 2 main characters in the Half Life series so far. 2 that have been in every single game. Gordon Freeman, and the G-man.

 

[Bill Lumbergh]

Yes. I want everybody to die. I'm sick of happy endings. I want everything to go wrong.

G-man leads his mysterious benfactor's army to earth to wipe out the remaining combine and humans so they can make use of the depleting, yet valuable, resources on earth. The series ends while you are help in a torture chamber, and looking through a window, you can see the cities of earth being mowed down like grass, while you slowly succumb to the inflictions, and your vision fades to black.

The only thing to add would be that you also see Alyx making out with Breen outside the window before you die. :hmph:

 

[Asknoone]

My point was that in the end of the series humanity is going to be wiped out, and the good guys aren't going to win this one. Your post merely served to back up my point, therefore....

Yes, but not that Gordon is being used to do so.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Yes, but not that Gordon is being used to do so.

He's already done everything he needs to.
While I'm not going to blame him for Black Mesa, he did kill the human's diplomat, Dr. Breen. With Breen gone, there is no longer anyone to convince the Combine that humans are worth having around. They'll slaughter everyone they don't need, assimilate everyone they do, harvest all of our resources, then leave our planet completely desolate.

 

[Asknoone]

Humanity was going down the drink anyway. Breen was managing the assimilation program, ultimately every remaining human on the planet was going to be transformed into a Stalker and shipped off world. Is that not destruction enough?

 

[Adrik_Senturu]

Well if you want to go completely original, no one dies and the actual game was just some kids telling a spooky ghost story, but they were kind of high so it became much more than a ghost story. It became an Epic tale of epic proportions.


But yeah :| Planet destroying device? Nah, I mean if they wanted too I bet they could've done that already >_>

 

[Flyingdebris]

When the hl series ultimatly ends, i think it should be along similar lines to the end of fallout tactics. Basically the best ending possible was through making the hard decision to sacrifice yourself or your humanity to make the world a better place. But there should still be heavy overtones of conspiracy and stuff going on beyond our meager comprehensions.

 

[Walter]

Closing the portal storm would be the first step to victory. Fighting them all with an army made completely out of infantry would be impossible.
If you take quake 4 as an example of what a human counter attack force can do versus 1 world, and that with an army equipped to teeth, you can dream about defeating a force like the Universal Union, not at this time.
So, if humanity or what's left of it decides to invade some combine controlled world, not only Barney, Alyx or any key character would die, but it would be the end humanity in general.
Judging by city 17 there are or were around 100,000 citizens there, add some 10 more cities to it. WOOOOOW, that's 1 million people. Enough for....half a stalingrad battle.