PS3 Launch INFO! ALL OF IT!

kupoartist said:
Each individual feature doesn't stand out, because they basically nicked their competitors features. However, as an overall that means that they're basically combining the raw power of the 360 with the gimmicks of the Wii, which is in itself more impressive surely than either console.
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Although they did rip the Revolution, their sensor is a third as functional and build into a "regular" controller (sans rumble).
So it doesn't yet match the Rev's wand design in terms of quality.
 
Wow, only $600 for tired sequels to tired franchises using tired gameplay with a shiny new coat of paint. Well I do have all these Blue Ray movies sitting on my desk that I've seen in other formats that I just can't wait to watch again. Oh wait, no I don't. It was an awe-inspiring presentation though. LOL.

So, who here is buying one with their own money as opposed to their parents'?
 
CptStern said:
for an extra $100 over the price of an xbox360 you get a blu-ray player that retails for $1000 as a stand alone product ..the ps3 (depending on your needs) is a better deal than the 360
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That's pretty much the only difference I see between the two consoles.
 
ya ..that's a really HUGE difference (if you want blu-ray) ..but the biggest differences will come out in terms of games ..xbox360 should have a better footing this time around as they've bought the best north american developers (or licensed for exclusivity on some of the top titles ...dont expect the next GTA to be released on ps3 first)


meh I'll wait for the dust to settle ..by then I'll have my latest dx10 dual core 512 mb gpu sli pc that will surpass consoles in terms of graphics (hopefully innovative gameplay will come with it)
 
Mechagodzilla said:
Although they did rip the Revolution, their sensor is a third as functional and build into a "regular" controller (sans rumble).
So it doesn't yet match the Rev's wand design in terms of quality.
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Well yes... it does stink of them pinching the idea at the last minute and making their own, rushed version of the Rev controller. IIRC it was implied that developers had only recently been told there would be this functionality and thus there was only one game with the feature actually implemented...
 
I think the main plus for me and for many other people is just how many options this thing has. Like playing Blu-ray, and the power this thing has. Dunno the blu-ray player did it for me really. I was really bummed when MS didnt add the HD-Player, i think that was MS worst decision.
 
Oh come on, we all know that the technology wasn't invented by Nintendo, that's not the point. If you want, you can trace it all back to Mr Gyroscope or whoever invented it and say they stole it from him. It's however about the time Sony uses the technology. It doesn't matter there were motion sensing controllers before, all that matters is that right NOW they're none, then Nintendo comes with a proper one, and a few months later Sony unveils their wannaWii (haha, get it?) controller.

It's the same deal as when Doom 3 had that expansion that introduced a weapon like the gravity gun, a short while after HL2. It's not that HL2 invented manipulative physics in games, but it was its major selling point. And then the Doom 3 expansion tries to hitchhike along on the success with some halfarsed version of the weapon. It is a blatant rip-off, not a rip-off from technological viewpoint because Nintendo didn't invent gyroscopes, but a rip-off nontheless.
 
PvtRyan said:
Oh come on, we all know that the technology wasn't invented by Nintendo, that's not the point. If you want, you can trace it all back to Mr Gyroscope or whoever invented it and say they stole it from him. It's however about the time Sony uses the technology. It doesn't matter there were motion sensing controllers before, all that matters is that right NOW they're none, then Nintendo comes with a proper one, and a few months later Sony unveils their wannaWii (haha, get it?) controller.

It's the same deal as when Doom 3 had that expansion that introduced a weapon like the gravity gun, a short while after HL2. It's not that HL2 invented manipulative physics in games, but it was its major selling point. And then the Doom 3 expansion tries to hitchhike along on the success with some halfarsed version of the weapon. It is a blatant rip-off, not a rip-off from technological viewpoint because Nintendo didn't invent gyroscopes, but a rip-off nontheless.
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Agreed. But its not a bad thing. Everyone knows they did it to keep up have more but its always good for us. More options = better for us.
 
CptStern said:
xbox360 should have a better footing this time around as they've bought the best north american developers (or licensed for exclusivity on some of the top titles
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Yeah, if you like the schlock that the "best North American developers" have been releasing for the previous MS console or showing off for this one. IMHO they haven't come close to buying the best North American developers. Not my bag really, but there are some that like it. I am a much bigger fan of either Japanese developers (for consoles) or smaller independent developers from any country (for PC).

CptStern said:
meh I'll wait for the dust to settle ..by then I'll have my latest dx10 dual core 512 mb gpu sli pc that will surpass consoles in terms of graphics (hopefully innovative gameplay will come with it)
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I hear that. All I really need is another gig of RAM and a DX10 GPU and a PPU and I should be set for another few years.

Seriously though, why is everyone so involved with making a stink over who copied whom and such? If you like its features, buy it. If you don't, then stop complaining and buy something else ffs!
 
VictimOfScience said:
Yeah, if you like the schlock that the "best North American developers" have been releasing for the previous MS console or showing off for this one. IMHO they haven't come close to buying the best North American developers. Not my bag really, but there are some that like it. I am a much bigger fan of either Japanese developers (for consoles) or smaller independent developers from any country (for PC).


I hear that. All I really need is another gig of RAM and a DX10 GPU and a PPU and I should be set for another few years.

Seriously though, why is everyone so involved with making a stink over who copied whom and such? If you like its features, buy it. If you don't, then stop complaining and buy something else ffs!
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and Vista :) Dont forget about what brings it all together.
 
Yeah, the important part is that the games and controller are designed with each other in mind.

Although logitech designed it way back when, there are still no games designed to actually use the technology, so I'd say it failed as an experiment.

Then nintendo shows up and actually makes the gyroscope useful by focusing on the gyroscope first and foremost in the controler design, and basing their future games around it. They basically ressurrected the failed concept and made it actually useful.

Suddenly there's the prospect of all these games with way more realistic swordfighting and gunfights. The successful implementation and the resultant critical praise are what Sony is latching onto here.

The key point is that Nintendo actually took a chance on an unpopular technology and put all their effort into making it work as well as possible, while Sony did exactly the opposite.
 
Mechagodzilla said:
Yeah, the important part is that the games and controller are designed with each other in mind.

Although logitech designed it way back when, there are still no games designed to actually use the technology, so I'd say it failed as an experiment.

Then nintendo shows up and actually makes the gyroscope useful by focusing on the gyroscope first and foremost in the controler design, and basing their future games around it. They basically ressurrected the failed concept and made it actually useful.

Suddenly there's the prospect of all these games with way more realistic swordfighting and gunfights. The successful implementation and the resultant critical praise are what Sony is latching onto here.

The key point is that Nintendo actually took a chance on an unpopular technology and put all their effort into making it work as well as possible, while Sony did exactly the opposite.
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Yes, but do you really care that much? As long as the games are top-notch, who cares who did what first? What a waste of breath imho....
 
Raziel-Jcd said:
I think the main plus for me and for many other people is just how many options this thing has. Like playing Blu-ray, and the power this thing has. Dunno the blu-ray player did it for me really. I was really bummed when MS didnt add the HD-Player, i think that was MS worst decision.
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The 360 can play HDDVDs but you need an attachment.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2194
 
VictimOfScience said:
Yes, but do you really care that much? As long as the games are top-notch, who cares who did what first? What a waste of breath imho....
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A paragraph isn't me worked up. That's me casual. See: Politics Section.

My point is not about "who did what first?".
It is about "what was done second?".

You can't legitimately call the dual 'shock' top-notch over the wii-stick.

The entire reason why no-one likes cash-ins is that they use hype (in this case, nintendo's) to sell things that aren't top-notch (in this case, a bad design from 1999).
 
I don't care what sony "rips off" or not.

My loyalty to Sony (which, I admit, is somewhat tested by this huge price) comes down to one thing: the ability to supply more than a handful of QUALITY games.
 
I am still pondering whether or not to buy the 360 over the PS3. But even after all of this info the 360 is still at the top of my list.

On another note thank you for this highly helpful information that you have posted. It has helped me make the life changing decision. 360 or PS3 DUM DUM DUM!!!!!
 
While I would prefer to buy a ps3, I might choose to stay out of this one again.
 
I was fully planning on buying a PS3 until I saw it was $600. Lame. I find that to be simply smug. I can see a group of Sony execs in a room...."it doesn't matter how much it costs.....those morons will buy it". Looks like MS may be geting my money after all.
 
Lt. Drebin said:
I was fully planning on buying a PS3 until I saw it was $600. Lame. I find that to be simply smug. I can see a group of Sony execs in a room...."it doesn't matter how much it costs.....those morons will buy it". Looks like MS may be geting my money after all.
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Well I was under the impression that Sony loses money on each console, I guess they'd rather have people pay the $600 to help curve their loses a bit (since it seems to be the one to buy). Unless of course, you're in Europe and you're stuck with the euro $600 pricetag which is a bit lame ...

D:
 
Sony and Microsoft are both losing money, Sony will be losing more.
 
Looks like us Europeans are getting shafted once again!!

Lucky us - we get to pay $200 more than those in the US and we don't even get the option of a cheaper version.
 
PlayStation 3 is currently planned to be £425 ($799) in the UK
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Ouch! That's more than pricey.
The PlayStation 3's chief rival, the premium Xbox 360, currently sells for £279 ($525) in the UK. The same unit costs $399 in the US.
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You guys get screwed on everything electronic - or is it just consoles?

Ouch
 
VirusType2 said:
Ouch! That's more than pricey.

You guys get screwed on everything electronic? - or is it just consoles?

Ouch
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Yeah we get pretty much screwed on all electronics....oh and petrol (gas) and gas (as in the type you use for cooking / heating) and electricity and clothing and.......well the list goes on.:frown:

I really need to remind myself of why i love this country so much.....:|
 
Griz said:
Yeah we get pretty much screwed on all electronics....oh and petrol (gas) and gas (as in the type you use for cooking / heating) and electricity and clothing and.......well the list goes on.:frown:

I really need to remind myself of why i love this country so much.....:|
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Hmmm ... so the value of the Pound is higher than the US dollar.. and yet everything is more EXPENSIVE! Explain to me how this works! So theoretically, the value of the pound is the same! :laugh:
 
seems like the Wii's motion sensors are more integral to gameplay a-la DS, as opposed to the ps3's which are added on, seemingly, as gimmicks. im really not impressed with the ps3 so far, and i'm glad im not because i dont want to pay 600 dollars for one. my 360 has been gathering a lot of dust, but i will definitely buy a Wii because it just looks fun. ps3, not so much. if blu-ray had a bigger chance of beating HDDVD then i'd get one.. but for some reason i just see the blu-ray going the way of the psp's mini disc.
 
I thought the PS3 had a PPU? Or is the CPU so good that it can do such complex physics? They look even better than the PhysX chip, if you saw the Rubber Duck demo. That was really complex water.
 
No.

That demo can be done on a TNT all it is a mesh with some physics applied to it. AVP2 had it.
 
gh0st said:
seems like the Wii's motion sensors are more integral to gameplay a-la DS, as opposed to the ps3's which are added on, seemingly, as gimmicks.
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So far, every single Wii game being worked on uses the features of the Wii controller.

Out of all the games in the works for the PS3 so far, Warhawk is the only one that uses the motion sensor. One trick pony? Cheap trick? It might be useful in a game where you have to balance, or if anyone remembers the very old classic arcade game Marble Madness, it might be cool to tilt the control, which could to make the marble roll. I'm sure they will make a few games to use it.
im really not impressed with the ps3 so far, and i'm glad im not because i dont want to pay 600 dollars for one.
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That's exactly how I feel. Thankfully, this system is the least desirable, because it is by far the most expensive.
 
I'm not impressed by the price or the harware that much, but for me the sony ps3 still holds the most exclusive IP's that I like. And sony have proven with ICO and Shadow of the colossus that they are willing to push the envelope when it comes to games, design/world/gameplay wise.

So while in the end the Wii and the 360 will probably have a larger and more appealing library then the ps3, I'will still miss some games very much. Still not worth dissing out 600,- for, but with all the negatieve comments here.
 
^Ben said:
No.

That demo can be done on a TNT all it is a mesh with some physics applied to it. AVP2 had it.
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Have you even seen the demo? I'm talking about the PS3 one, you know, not the PS2 one. The water was NOT a mesh. It was fully simulated. The guy SCOOPS UP WATER INTO A GLASS.

You can find the video on FilePlanet.
 
vegeta897 said:
I thought the PS3 had a PPU? Or is the CPU so good that it can do such complex physics? They look even better than the PhysX chip, if you saw the Rubber Duck demo. That was really complex water.
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Pretty sure I read somewhere that Aegia had written the PhysX code for PS3's cell processor, but yeah, the CPU is handling the physics.
 
The CPU should be able to handle physics. It is heavily optimized for Floats. Setting 2-3 processors on that should allow you to handle things like water, cloth, etc..
 
Well then, that explains it! Thanks.

Is it true like I guessed that it is more powerful than the PhysX chip? That water looks like it has far more... Whatever it uses... than the water I've seen in games like Cell Factor. But that may be because Cell Factor has a ton of other stuff going on as opposed to the Rubber Duck demo.
 
I'd think the processor itself would. I mean if you use 4 sub processors designed and optimized for things like Float Point Processing and when your code is optimized to take advantage of how they work....I'd believe so.
 
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