Wallace, Alyx, the g-man

[ríomhaire]

So in Episode Two the g-man talks about how, when he "plucked" Alyx Vance from Black Mesa, someone protested that he gain use of Alyx for his own purposes. One might think that it was Eli or Alyx's mother, Azian, that might be voicing these protests, but it has been noticed that when the g-man says this, it is Dr. Wallace Breen's portrait that appears on the screen behind the g-man.

So, here is my theory. After the resonance cascade occurs, Eli stays in the Anomolous Materials laboratory, at least for a little while, to attend to one of his colleges. He claims in Black Mesa East that he carried Alyx from Black Mesa himself. I think he was lying. I think that Eli's self-proffesed "oldest friend", Wallace was able to meet up with Eli's wife and daughter before Eli himself was. Or perhaps neither Eli nor Azian were able to get to Alyx and Wallace was able to find her in the day-care centre and take her himself. Either way the end result is the same: Wallace was the one carrying Alyx from Black Mesa, with or without Azian.

I think that Eli and Wallace's mutual friend appeared to him and he struck a deal. I think that Alyx and Breen were given safe passage from Black Mesa in exchange for Alyx's freedom. I think that Wallace tried to negotiate a better deal, but couldn't, and took what he was offered.

And if Eli knew about this, well, it was another reason for bad blood between him and Breen.

 

[gFrohman]

I think you've got a pretty plausible theory here.

My question is then what happened to Azian? How did she die, or is there some crazy plot twist regarding her that we don't know about? Another question is that if Breen went to go get Alyx, what drove him to do that in the first place? Why would Breen care about Alyx?

Another possibility is perhaps G-Man saves Alyx (maybe Azian was killed by a Vort or some other critter), gives her to Breen and tells him to take her out of Black Mesa. Only problem with this theory is that it doesn't look like Breen would get anything in return, so I doubt he would care.

 

[flamingdts]

I think you've got a pretty plausible theory here.

My question is then what happened to Azian? How did she die, or is there some crazy plot twist regarding her that we don't know about? Another question is that if Breen went to go get Alyx, what drove him to do that in the first place? Why would Breen care about Alyx?

Another possibility is perhaps G-Man saves Alyx (maybe Azian was killed by a Vort or some other critter), gives her to Breen and tells him to take her out of Black Mesa. Only problem with this theory is that it doesn't look like Breen would get anything in return, so I doubt he would care.

I'm kind of confused, and if I think the theory is what I think it is, then G-man offered Breen a free passage out of Black Mesa if he took Alyx Vance along with him. I think G-man also pulled more strings than this. How does Breen know how to communicate with the Combine? I know he used some device, but how is he able to create a device to communicate with another species in just 7 hours?

I think G-man pulled a lot more strings than this. Since Breen is the administrator, I believe G-man not only offered him a safe passage out (whether he had to take Alyx with him or not), but was responsible for getting Breen the administrator of earth.

Here is where another theory comes in, in my other thread, I proposed a theory that G-man and his employers wanted control over Xen due to the Xen crystals, which we saw are very powerful materials not only for probably the best teleportation (explaining how Nihilanth got Grunts and Vorts anywhere in Black Mesa, and how he may be planning to retake his homeland by using these advance teleportation. Hence the Grunt factories we saw) but also for weaponary.

Obviously Nihilanth wouldn't hand over Xen Crystals or the planet to G-man and his employers, so G-man saw Earth as a potential race of destroying and invading Xen. G-man negotiated with Breen, and very possibly told him that he would become a very powerful man (which is supported by the fact that Eli claimed Breen became the administrator of Earth for power) if Breen had decided to use certain Xen crystals in order to start a resonance cascade.

G-man also ensured that the resonance cascade would be fixed by Gordon Freeman, which is how Breen appears to know so much.

As for Alyx? I personally have this feeling that G-man talked about Alyx Vance with Breen, in which Breen probably said she was of no use and not significant. Obviously, G-man ignored Breen, and took Alyx anyways.

 

[Maturin]

The border world is also the most strategically important place in existence. Doesn't all teleportation rely on harnessing it in some way.

Mossman said that Eli's teleport used Xen as a dimensional slingshot, even though they didn't have to pass through.

 

[Darkside55]

I have a hard time believing that Dr. Wallace Breen could be the "naysayer" that the G-man couldn't quell. It doesn't seem to make sense. It assumes that Dr. Breen had a far greater influence over the G-man than previously thought.

Even though you see the flash of Dr. Breen on the monitor, I'm going to hold that those in opposition to keeping Alyx Vance alive were the G-man's mysterious employers, unless Valve says otherwise.

My question is then what happened to Azian? How did she die, or is there some crazy plot twist regarding her that we don't know about?

"We were living in base housing, you know. When I made it back there right before the end I found only Alyx. She had her mother's wedding ring in her hand, but she couldn't tell me how she'd gotten it. Those days are blank for her. Sometimes I wish it were the same for me. I can still only guess what might've happened to my wife. One of the missing. One of the millions who were lost."

Of course, that may no longer apply.

(which is supported by the fact that Eli claimed Breen became the administrator of Earth for power)

Noooo, he says that Breen was rewarded with power. There's a difference. Breen was acting out of the interests of humanity, not for personal gain. That he became the consul was not by his design, nor was it his goal. His goal, first and foremost, was protecting the human race from extinction.

The Combine basically said, "Fine. You convert your worthless species into something we can use, and we let them live. Otherwise it is on your head."

Precisely the reason Dr. Breen remarks, "At the moment, I fear they have begun to look upon even me with suspicion. So much for serving as humanity's representative. Help me win back their trust, Dr. Freeman."

Everything Dr. Breen did was for the good of humanity, misguided as it might be. He was never in it for power. He was, at all times, altruistic--yet pragmatic.

 

[Maturin]

But Breen also seems to be a Platonist. He knows damn well that the vast majority of humans will not achieve immortality and become something greater, they'll just be turned into Bullsquid food so the scientists can see the universe.

 

[Darkside55]

"Can't make an omelette..."

The human race itself, at least, is preserved in one form or another.

 

[ríomhaire]

I think you've got a pretty plausible theory here.

My question is then what happened to Azian? How did she die, or is there some crazy plot twist regarding her that we don't know about? Another question is that if Breen went to go get Alyx, what drove him to do that in the first place? Why would Breen care about Alyx?

Wallace reffers to Eli as his oldest friend. I think he did it out of friendship.

 

[gFrohman]

"We were living in base housing, you know. When I made it back there right before the end I found only Alyx. She had her mother's wedding ring in her hand, but she couldn't tell me how she'd gotten it. Those days are blank for her. Sometimes I wish it were the same for me. I can still only guess what might've happened to my wife. One of the missing. One of the millions who were lost."

Of course, that may no longer apply.

This quote I believe is from unused dialogue - the wedding ring was changed to the necklace, if I'm correct (correct me if I'm wrong now!).

Wallace reffers to Eli as his oldest friend. I think he did it out of friendship.

If this is the case, then what was it that caused Eli to absolutely hate Breen later on? Perhaps it was when Breen was "awarded with power" after Earth's surrender to the Combine.

 

[ríomhaire]

If this is the case, then what was it that caused Eli to absolutely hate Breen later on? Perhaps it was when Breen was "awarded with power" after Earth's surrender to the Combine.

Well, there's being the Combine's repressentative and collaborating in the enslavement and assimilation of mankind and also making a deal with the person who set up the resonance cascade which involved allowing the use of Eli's own daughter as a puppet.

On a side note: I believe it's the g-man's manipulation that allowed Alyx to find Gordon in Point Insertion and Anticitizen One (though I'm sure the gunshots also helped).

 

[gFrohman]

On a side note: I believe it's the g-man's manipulation that allowed Alyx to find Gordon in Point Insertion and Anticitizen One (though I'm sure the gunshots also helped).

Very good point - I always thought it was a little too coincidental that Alyx magically knew where you were. Obviously she would know the general area you were in because of, as you said, the gunshots, but still, she's not psychic.
Plus, maybe G-Man had a hand in guiding Alyx to the area where you were buried at the beginning of EP1 - how the hell else could have Dog & Alyx found you otherwise, since you could have been anywhere? He obviously didn't tell Alyx exactly where you were, otherwise she wouldn't have been so surprised at finding you (and wouldn't have hugged you ).

 

[TheOneFreeMan]

Very good point - I always thought it was a little too coincidental that Alyx magically knew where you were. Obviously she would know the general area you were in because of, as you said, the gunshots, but still, she's not psychic.
Plus, maybe G-Man had a hand in guiding Alyx to the area where you were buried at the beginning of EP1 - how the hell else could have Dog & Alyx found you otherwise, since you could have been anywhere? He obviously didn't tell Alyx exactly where you were, otherwise she wouldn't have been so surprised at finding you (and wouldn't have hugged you ).

I think this is taking things a little too far, as far as G-Man theories go. He's not responsible for everything; Alyx was obviously alerted to the fact that you were in the area by Barney/Kleiner. Looks like exactly what it is, good timing.

Plus I think you forget ... the G-Man had no power over you at the start of EP1. The scene immediately before that shows the Vorts restraining him from you.

 

[gFrohman]

That's true about EP1 - how could I forget that! *facepalm*

Regarding HL2 though, the times mentioned by riomhaire (Point Insertion & Anticitizen One) I think are a good point to consider - while I trust that Alyx was resourceful and smart enough to find you, the timing of these two incidents just seems a little fishy to me (maybe I'm just paranoid).