Woah!

[Robert-]

I finally know the basic HL story. I haven't even beat HL1 yet due to crappy computer issues so I decided to visit Wikipedia. I read the enitre storyline. Now I can beat the rest of the series on Xbox 360 and know the story and understand the games! I feel a bit more complete inside.

 

[Sloth]

But you will never have been able to Kill the entire Science Team in a fit of rage...

Nor will Barney truely owe you a beer.

 

[Robert-]

Oh, I can always start a new game and go on a killing rampage.


And if Barney doesn't give me that damn beer, so help me, I will cut his balls off with my toe nails.

 

[Darkside55]

But Barney doesn't truly owe anyone a beer. A Barney owes you a beer. Or perhaps multiple Barneys owe you a beer. But does Calhoun owe you a beer? We never met with Calhoun in Half-Life...

...or did we?

 

[Robert-]

One thing though. At the end of the storyline thing, it says that G-Man offers you a job that you can accept or decline. Do you ever find out what the job is? (If you find out in later games just say "Yes, you do" if you find out in HL1, please tell me what the job is.)

 

[Robert-]

Doublepostlol,

Nevarmind, I youtubed the end. But do you find out the job he offered you in HL2? An do you find out who his "employers" are? Or is it still the big "G-Man" mystery?

 

[Sloth]

Don't spoil it for yourself...

 

[Beerdude26]

But Barney doesn't truly owe anyone a beer. A Barney owes you a beer. Or perhaps multiple Barneys owe you a beer. But does Calhoun owe you a beer? We never met with Calhoun in Half-Life...

...or did we?

The Blue Shift Barney is Calhoun, and all he sees of Freeman is his backside.





Oh dear, that came out wrong. :|

 

[Robert-]

Don't spoil it for yourself...

Lol, ok. I guess I'm just overexcited.

 

[Darkside55]

The Blue Shift Barney is Calhoun, and all he sees of Freeman is his backside.

Is it? Is it REALLY? Laidlaw has said otherwise.

But sometimes he doesn't say otherwise.

And sometimes he says nothing at all.

And THAT is when Barney owes you a beer.

 

[Evo]

...wrong section

Good to know you now know the story

 

[Smoke]

That beer is the second coming.

 

[Link]

...I haven't even beat HL1 yet due to crappy computer issues...

They give away computers that will run HL2 in large, specially marked boxes of cereal. You have no excuses

 

[Barnz]

Welcome to the world of plot holes.

 

[Robert-]

They give away computers that will run HL2 in large, specially marked boxes of cereal. You have no excuses

Lol, I bet I could find a computer better than mine at a ****ing garage sale for $0.25!.

 

[mastag]

how crappy did your pc have to be to not run hl1? Not being mean, just curious.

 

[Robert-]

Lol, It's about 6-7 years old, has had countless viruses and infections. It barely runs anything.

 

[Ennui]

But Barney doesn't truly owe anyone a beer. A Barney owes you a beer. Or perhaps multiple Barneys owe you a beer. But does Calhoun owe you a beer? We never met with Calhoun in Half-Life...

...or did we?

Well, we only know for sure that Barney sees Freeman at the beginning of Blue Shift, but he has to be the one who owes him a beer because he references it in Half-Life 2

I have a nagging suspicion that the final scene in the Half-Life games is going to be getting that beer with him.

 

[Robert-]

Well, we only know for sure that Barney sees Freeman at the beginning of Blue Shift, but he has to be the one who owes him a beer because he references it in Half-Life 2

I have a nagging suspicion that the final scene in the Half-Life games is going to be getting that beer with him.

The final seen should be Gordon and Barney gett hammered.

 

[ríomhaire]

But does Calhoun owe you a beer?

Yes.

Now...about that beer I owed ya.

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

The final seen should be Gordon and Barney gett hammered.

Hell yes.

 

[Robert-]

Yay. I just beat HL1 at a friend's house today. I feel quite fulfilled. I actually liked the ending better when PLAYING the game, not reading. Lol.

 

[soulslicer]

my oldest computer in my house cant even run doom2 nor hl1 do you know why? its got 32mb of ram, a 100mhz processor and a "quad-speed cd-drive". oh, and a 872mb hardisk. it cost my family a bomb then to buy it. we only use it for net surfing..

 

[Link]

Yay. I just beat HL1 at a friend's house today. I feel quite fulfilled. I actually liked the ending better when PLAYING the game, not reading. Lol.

Different worlds eh? Now start saving your pennys and buy a Pc to run HL2, and continue the story.

soulslicer0 - You know what you have to do. Find a shotgun, and take it out back, its the humane thing to do.

 

[Kevin]

Put him out of his cyber-misery...*sob*

 

[soulslicer]

lol, i just keep it for memories sake, who knows what a 100mhz processor might fetch in the future as "vintage" items.. ok that is just stupid.

 

[nokori3byo]

Well, if we accept the logic of retconning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retcon ), then the very first Barney seen in the original Half-Life is the "B. Calhoun" of Blue Shift, since he's the one Gordon passes on the tram. All the other Barnies were just generic Barnies--i.e. Gordon doesn't actually see any of them engaging in the activities that B. Calhoun engages in in Blue Shift.

Darkside, when did Laidlaw say B. Calhoun wasn't the same Barney we meet in HL2? He's voiced by the same guy and appears to have the same name. A bit of a coincidence, non? Or was L's statement simply a disavowal of BS's cannonicity?

 

[Rapstah]

He's voiced by the same guy

All Barneys are.

 

[nokori3byo]

Yeah, well all the barnies are identical, right? My point was that there's obviously more than a passing relationship between B. Calhoun and Barney Calhoun. If Blue Shift is canonical, then the first Barney seen in HL is the same guy as the two just named, simple as that.

Of course, if Blue Shift is only semi-canonical, it gets complicated...

 

[ríomhaire]

Well, if we accept the logic of retconning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retcon ), then the very first Barney seen in the original Half-Life is the "B. Calhoun" of Blue Shift, since he's the one Gordon passes on the tram. All the other Barnies were just generic Barnies--i.e. Gordon doesn't actually see any of them engaging in the activities that B. Calhoun engages in in Blue Shift.

Darkside, when did Laidlaw say B. Calhoun wasn't the same Barney we meet in HL2? He's voiced by the same guy and appears to have the same name. A bit of a coincidence, non? Or was L's statement simply a disavowal of BS's cannonicity?

Voice by the same guy? B. Calhoun never speaks an audiable word. As for the Laidlaw thing, it's in the stickied topic in the SP forum. He didn't exactly say that it's not B. Calhoun, but he does say that when he writes Barney's lines he isn't thinking about B. Calhoun, Blue Shift or Gearbox continuity. So basicly, no single barney is designated as HL2 Barney and neither is B. Calhoun, but Laidlaw, if he feels one day so inclinded, may put in a line like "Remember when we *insert event of HL1 here*" and concrete Barney as one person, but for now it's open and he does not take into account anything of B. Calhoun when writing for Barney. I hope that cleared things up more than it confused them.

 

[Robert-]

Different worlds eh? Now start saving your pennys and buy a Pc to run HL2, and continue the story.

soulslicer0 - You know what you have to do. Find a shotgun, and take it out back, its the humane thing to do.

I'm just going to take the easy way out and buy it for the 360.

 

[nokori3byo]

Voice by the same guy? B. Calhoun never speaks an audiable word.

Yes he does. In the trailer. True, it's only an old Michael Shapiro line lifted from Half-Life, but it's clearly given to the protagonist of Blue Shift.

As far as the other stuff goes, yeah, I guess we shouldn't be too sticky about B's indentity having been established in past games. We know for sure that Eli does appear in Half-Life and that Keliner does not. Barney seems to be a little more problematic.

 

[Kevin]

How i remember it, there was only 1 Barney all the time, never 2.
SO maybe Barney is the one and same Barney all the time. Like a one-man-securityforce.
Or just the lucky surviving guard.

 

[Operational]

I consider Blue Shift Calhoun to be the "real" Calhoun until something in-game proves otherwise.

We know for sure that Eli does appear in Half-Life and that Keliner does not.

I know there is a semi-official Eli in HL1 but what makes you so sure than none of the scientists we see HL1 aren't Keliner?

 

[Exploder]

We know for sure that Eli does appear in Half-Life and that Keliner does not. Barney seems to be a little more problematic.

Ah, where did that happen? It's been a while since I played the original Half-Life.

 

[nokori3byo]

Eli is revealed, in RTB, to have been the scientist who operated the eye-scanner and gave Gordon instruction to go to the surface. As for Kleiner, I've read in numerous places he doesn't appear in HL1. Sadly, the Wikipedia article does not cite its sources.

 

[Rapstah]

Eli is revealed, in RTB, to have been the scientist who operated the eye-scanner and gave Gordon instruction to go to the surface.

He says it himself in BME.

 

[nokori3byo]

As the Bard once said, "That's true too!"

 

[Barnz]

Eli is revealed, in RTB, to have been the scientist who operated the eye-scanner and gave Gordon instruction to go to the surface. As for Kleiner, I've read in numerous places he doesn't appear in HL1. Sadly, the Wikipedia article does not cite its sources.

Here is a picture showing Eli before and after the accident.

 

[Kevin]

Is that a player model?