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http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/09/20/news_6107712.html

The two-year-old dispute playing out in Federal Court revs up as milestones, court date approach.
Last week, news of Valve finally shipping the Half-Life 2 release candidate to publisher Vivendi Universal Games (VUG) grabbed headlines. However, behind the scenes, the two companies have been involved in a much less upbeat kind of transaction--an ongoing legal battle that has garnered little attention from gamers.

On August 14, 2002, Valve served its then-publisher Sierra On-Line (now Sierra Entertainment, a Vivendi Universal Games brand) with a lawsuit in US District Court, Western Division, Seattle alleging copyright infringement--the result of Sierra placing Valve games in Internet cafes in the US and abroad. "Sierra has in the past and continues to reproduce, use, distribute, and/or license one or more of the Valve Games with regard to 'cyber cafes,'" the complaint read. "Sierra's activities are outside the scope of Sierra's limited license...and therefore constitute copyright infringement in violation of the Copyright Act of 1976."

And so it began.

Since that filing, more than a dozen lawyers have left their stamp on the over 200 documents and exhibits (the most recent filed just last week) that have crossed the desk of the honorable Thomas S. Zilly, the judge mediating the dispute.

Presiding over the claims, counterclaims, motions, answers, declarations, applications, amended complaints, and other minutia of the case, Zilly is in the middle of the legal equivalent of a barroom brawl. In court filings, attorneys for Sierra/VUG allege that Gabe Newell, founder and managing director of Valve, conveyed "misleading half-truth" to them, and that various ensuing conversations between Newell and Sierra/VUG executives were colored with "misrepresentations and concealment." Valve's marketing director Doug Lombardi is also described as having made "false representations" to Sierra/VUG execs.

"Valve sued Vivendi for copyright infringement back in 2002 over their unauthorized distribution of our products to cyber cafes," Lombardi told GameSpot last Friday. "We later had to add breach of contract claims for, among other things, refusing to pay us royalties owed and delaying Condition Zero out of the holiday season."

That lawsuit became more complex when Sierra fought back with a counterclaim. "Almost a year and a half into the lawsuit," Lombardi continued, "Vivendi responded by making a number of claims in an attempt to invalidate our agreement and be awarded the ownership of the Half-Life intellectual property. We expect to prevail in this lawsuit."

Though the density of the legal documents makes for arduous reading, they yield many fascinating nuggets of information. For example, the first Half-Life, which went on to win numerous awards and reap huge profits for both developer and publisher, was delivered to Sierra after an almost laughably meager $800,000 advance--the initial payment was a mere $30,000 when Newell and Sierra On-line reps signed their first software publishing agreement on April 27, 1997.

Currently, the case stands here: After Valve's initial lawsuit alleging that Sierra illegally distributed Half-Life to game cafes, and Sierra/VUG's counterclaim that accuses Valve of circumventing Sierra's retail plans by distributing Valve games via Steam, the two sides have both submitted motions for summary judgment on lesser points.

"Our court date [a jury trial to address the complaint and counterclaim] isn't until March 2005," Lombardi said. "The October 8 motions relate to two legal issues. We expect those issues to be decided in our favor."

For readers not familiar with the case (that is, just about everyone), the overall timeline is referenced in documents filed by VUG attorneys on Wednesday, September 15, 2004. In those documents--a second motion "to compel production of [Half-Life 2] source code"--Sierra/VUG attorneys stated their case in filings as follows:

"In 1997, Valve and Sierra entered into two agreements whereby Valve undertook to develop certain computer games and Sierra undertook to manufacture, market, and distribute the games. Among other benefits, these 1997 agreements granted Sierra intellectual property rights in the games.

"Beginning in 1999, following the success of its first game, Valve began to threaten Sierra that it would halt or slow development of the remaining games it was obligated to develop unless Sierra relinquished certain rights under the 1997 agreements. Sierra eventually capitulated to these demands and, relying on misrepresentations by Valve, entered into a new software publishing agreement (SPA) with Valve in 2001.

"Among other concessions, Sierra agreed to relinquish intellectual property rights and to allow Valve certain rights to the online distribution of games. Valve did not disclose during the negotiations over the 2001 SPA that it was in the process of developing a new technology called Steam that would allow consumers who would normally purchase games from Sierra/VUG at retail to purchase those products online directly from Valve.

"It was not until March 2002, nearly a year after the 2001 SPA was signed, that Valve announced the new Steam technology in a Game Developers' Conference in San Jose. Production of the source code in native, electronic, compliable format will allow Sierra/VUG to analyze the timing of Valve's development of Steam and the relevant Valve games.

"The timing of Valve's development of the source code for Valve games, the Valve source engine and Steam are critical to the development of several of Sierra/VUG's counterclaims, including: Sierra/VUG's promissory fraud claim based on Valve's false promises that it would continuously develop games to completion; Sierra/VUG's fraud claim and claim for breach of the covenant of good faith and fair dealing based on Valve's concealment of Steam and its strategically delayed development of the Valve games to coincide with the commercial release of Steam; Sierra/VUG's unilateral mistake claim based on its mistaken belief regarding the status of development of the Valve games upon signing the 2001 SPA; Sierra/VUG's breach of contract claim based on Valve's failure to use diligent efforts to continuously develop the Valve games to completion; and Sierra/VUG's claim for declaratory relief regarding its right to reversion of the Half-Life intellectual property based on Valve's failure to continuously develop the Valve games."

Perhaps not so coincidentally, Valve announced that it had delivered a Half-Life 2 release candidate to VUG the day after this motion was filed with the court. Whether that release candidate qualifies as the "source code" VUG attorneys sought is unclear, although Lombardi indicated to GameSpot the source code at issue and the release candidate are not the same.

One especially significant subplot contained in Sierra's 54-page counterclaim to Valve's initial copyright infringement lawsuit revolves around the lengths Newell and others at Valve, according to Sierra/VUG filings, went to to downplay the capabilities of Steam, the Valve-developed digital distribution system now being tapped as a distribution mechanism for Half-Life 2.

"During the parties' negotiations...Counterclaim Defendants [Valve] repeatedly and falsely assured Sierra and VUG that retail sales would remain "the key to [their] strategy." In September 2000, for example, Newell told Hubert Joly, then VUG's CEO, that "online is a way to nurture the retail business" and that he "could not understand how one can make money online today."

"Sierra and VUG would later learn that these statements were flatly false...Incredibly, Counterclaim Defendant Newell also stated that he "could not understand how one can make money online today," plainly with the intention to falsely imply that Valve had no present or future strategy to engage in widespread online distribution of the games. This misleading half-truth was Newell's deliberate concealment of the extent to which Valve intended through the parties' negotiations to appropriate the substantial value of the distribution rights to Valve, rather than to Sierra and VUG."

In court filings, Sierra/VUG says that the current distribution of Half-Life 2 via Steam exceeds the scope of the current software publishing agreement between the two parties. It is apparently seeking the court's assistance in compelling Valve not to use Steam as an avenue of distribution.

On Friday, when asked if Valve was remained intent on making Half-Life 2 available to gamers via Steam, regardless of what was determined on October 8, Lombardi replied, "Yes."

Interestingly, and in spite of the ongoing legal dispute, Sierra/VUG still wants to work with Valve in the future and is asking the court via filings to force Valve to work with it on whatever is next in the development pipeline. It asks the court, in filings, "for a declaration that Sierra and VUG have the right to a fourth engine license pursuant to the terms of...the 2001 Agreement."

According to Lombardi, "We're going to meet the obligations of our current agreement."

So what does the future hold for the two parties? They are now in a dash to present to the court all relevant materials to support their cross-motions for summary judgment regarding "cyber-cafe rights and available damages" (according to Sierra/VUG filings).

Additionally, the following milestones remain upcoming for the two parties, according to the deputy clerk to Judge Zilly:


All motions related to discovery must be filed by October 22, 2004
Disclosure of expert testimony [by] November 5, 2004
Discovery completed by November 18, 2004
All dispositive motions must be filed by...November 18, 2004
Settlement conference no later than January 20, 2005
Mediation held no later than February 19, 2005
All motions in limine must be filed by February 21, 2005
Agreed pretrial order due March 9, 2005
Pretrial conference to be held at 4:00 pm on March 11, 2005
Trial briefs, proposed voir dire questions, jury instructions, and findings of fact and conclusions of law...March 16, 2005
Trial date: March 21, 2005

With the next hearing date set by the court of October 8, 2004 (to hear the cross-motions of summary judgment), you can be sure the parties will have little time to check out the run-and-gun fun of Half-Life 2, but that doesn't mean they don't have their legal weapons drawn, fingers on the triggers.

GameSpot will keep you posted on further developments.

By Curt Feldman -- GameSpot





Valve needs to get away from Vivendi. That publisher is a wreck and the longer they stick with them, the worse off they'll be. I wonder if they have a long-term contract with them.

BTW - would you trust a lawsuit to be presided over by a Judge named ZILLY?
 
Hmmm this cant be good.

I hope this doesnt affect the release of HL2 in any way
 
After what we've seen as far as "statements" are concerned from Gabe, Doug and company, I don't see why any of us would doubt that Valve is capable of making mis-leading statements. I'm not a VU fanboy or anything either, but this sounds more like an alimony case than anything.

--Mr. Bildo
 
Oh it will, I guarentee it. There goes hope for an October release. Let alone Sept 30th. Great job for both companies to lose money.
 
Christ... who cares.. Just give us the game. Then we can throw all the Valve and Vivendi employees into a pit of death and watch them fight it out...
 
Valve needs to get away from Vivendi. That publisher is a wreck and the longer they stick with them, the worse off they'll be. I wonder if they have a long-term contract with them.

The article says that VUG has a contract from 2001 that gives them the publishing right of one more game. And Lombardi said they'll stick to that.

But I believe Valve already has a contract with Activision, so I doubt they plan to stay with VUG.
 
Imagine if they delayed the game until after the March 2005 trial :D
 
unless the situation deteriorates to the point that Valve just go ahead and distribute on Steam regardless.

i guess the 2001 renegotiated contract must have specified simultaneous online and retail distribution. otherwise with the relationship in that state, HL2 would be released on Steam already.
 
Man, this sucks. All we need is some legal battle to keep the game in limbo. After coming this far, I'm going to be pretty pissed if this game gets delayed because of legalities.
 
Ouch, sucks for Valve... but I still have strong faith in them, and i'm pretty sure that they will win this battel. And they will NEVER make a game on someone elses order.
 
As much as Vivendi sounds bad, I think Valve sounds worse. If I was a publisher, I wouldn't want Valve under my list of developers, even if they were planning on releasing HL2.
 
Only one good action left for valve to do to show VU that enough is enough..., release HL 2 on steam the minute after it has gone gold :)
 
I just hope the court doesn't give VUG the rights to Half-Life tm.
 
blahblahblah said:
As much as Vivendi sounds bad, I think Valve sounds worse. If I was a publisher, I wouldn't want Valve under my list of developers, even if they were planning on releasing HL2.

Yeah, some of that stuff sounded pretty shady and underhanded, but then again, it's really hard to see the truth when lawyers get involved. I personally could care less about the outcome of this as long as the game comes out on time. From the sound of it, both companies deserve each other.
 
That lawsuit became more complex when Sierra fought back with a counterclaim. "Almost a year and a half into the lawsuit," Lombardi continued, "Vivendi responded by making a number of claims in an attempt to invalidate our agreement and be awarded the ownership of the Half-Life intellectual property. We expect to prevail in this lawsuit."

lol, Vivendi trying to claim intellectual property, They sound like money grabbing moron's to me, the money making possibilities have obviously gone to their heads, where as valve understand all of this, and want to get this game to the fanbase asap, Vivendi are now holding the key.

Lets hope it's all external envolvement, and this doesnt impede the RC testing process, and gold announcement.

besides Valve know what there doing, they made the damn game :)
 
brullan said:
Only one good action left for valve to do to show VU that enough is enough..., release HL 2 on steam the minute after it has gone gold :)

oyeaa ....... do it VALVe
 
brullan said:
Only one good action left for valve to do to show VU that enough is enough..., release HL 2 on steam the minute after it has gone gold

if they are gonna do that, they don't have to wait for gold. they can do it right now. VALVe have sent VUG an RC, so they belive HL2 is finished. gold just means VUG think it's finished too.
 
clarky003 said:
lol, Vivendi trying to claim intellectual property, They sound like money grabbing moron's to me, the money making possibilities have obviously gone to their heads, where as valve understand all of this, and want to get this game to the fanbase asap, Vivendi are now holding the key.

Lets hope it's all external envolvement, and this doesnt impede the RC testing process, and gold announcement.

besides Valve know what there doing, they made the damn game :)

To be honest, Valve sounds like the same money grabbing morons as Vivendi. I am beginning to seriously doubts Valve's future as a Triple A game developer. They are simply too troubled.
 
"With the next hearing date set by the court of October 8, 2004 (to hear the cross-motions of summary judgment), you can be sure the parties will have little time to check out the run-and-gun fun of Half-Life 2, but that doesn't mean they don't have their legal weapons drawn, fingers on the triggers."

I hope this means that when that day comes by that hl2 will be in stores or coming out soon while all this is taking place, after all pcgameplay review coming soon so i guess there is no turning back now, i hope...
 
Odds are that they will reach an out of court settlement before this case even goes to trial in 2005. Both companies have too much to lose to let this thing play out in the court system.
 
For one, I think VU asking for intellectual property rights over HL is going way overboard. Secodnly, VU were the ones who signed the contract in which they gave away what rights they had and allowed Valve certain rights for online distribution. To me it seems that VU were being either incredibly naive when they entered into it or weren't taking it seriously enough. And that's their fault.

Steam is absolutely irrelevant. It's obvious that if Valve were going to move toward online distribution they were going to need to develop a new system to do so. That's not being disingenuous at all. Sounds like VU were suprised Valve pulled off such a well working system and are now trying to backpedal. And I don't think Gabe's statement is misleading either. The vast majority of HL2's sales will still come from retail. Steam is a nice alternative for people who don't need packaging or live somewhere where buying retail isn't the best option.
 
blahblahblah said:
To be honest, Valve sounds like the same money grabbing morons as Vivendi. I am beginning to seriously doubts Valve's future as a Triple A game developer. They are simply too troubled.
I think Valve sounded so bad because alot of what was said was comming from the legal arguments that Vivendi sent. Its only natural that they would paint Valve as a business devil in such a situation, I didn't really see many quotes from what Valves side of the argument is.
 
blahblahblah said:
To be honest, Valve sounds like the same money grabbing morons as Vivendi. I am beginning to seriously doubts Valve's future as a Triple A game developer. They are simply too troubled.

Yeah, they're playing hardball with each other. I don't think anyone is "clean" in this court case. <sarcasm>Doug and Gabe make misleading statements?!?!?!? Whooda thunkit!</sacrcasm>

It's two parents who hate each other trying to stick together because of the children (HL2, HL3).
 
"VU were the ones who signed the contract in which they gave away what rights they had and allowed Valve certain rights for online distribution. To me it seems that VU were being either incredibly naive when they entered into it or weren't taking it seriously enough. And that's their fault."

However, if Valve DELIBERATELY MISREPRESENTED their intentions to VU in the course of contract negotiations, that is considered a tort fraud and is a very serious offense under commercial law statutes.

I'm not making a judgement call as to who is right - I'm just laying out the legal ramifications.
 
PvtRyan said:
The article says that VUG has a contract from 2001 that gives them the publishing right of one more game. And Lombardi said they'll stick to that.

But I believe Valve already has a contract with Activision, so I doubt they plan to stay with VUG.

They should release HL2D to VUG as their "one more game" and release HL2 with someone else. :)
 
:eek: wow, what is next? How interesting, wouldn't it be rather ironic if VUG stopped valve from releasing HL2 via Steam after all these people have downloaded nearly all of the game. I hope this doesn't push the date back but it doesn't sound too good.
Dear me :(
 
Whatever their difficulties, however, I have to believe that both companies will want HL2 released as soon as possible to maximize sales. Vivendi will just want compensatory damages that Valve can pay later if indeed Gabe mislead them about their plans for world domination using Steam.
 
nutcrackr said:
:eek: wow, what is next? How interesting, wouldn't it be rather ironic if VUG stopped valve from releasing HL2 via Steam after all these people have downloaded nearly all of the game. I hope this doesn't push the date back but it doesn't sound too good.
Dear me :(
As their "court-time" was in 2005 this shouldn't affect the release of HL².
 
I am VERY inclined to believe that Valve stretched/hid the truth. Because developers like musicians are pushed into a corner when they initially sign. Now that Valve has made a name for itself im not surprised that they want to squirm out of the contracts as much as possible. So Valve played their cards close to their chest and screwed VU over, while trying to stay within the law. :LOL:

I have no sympathy for VU because publishers (music lables) live by legally screwing over the developers (musicians).
 
Democritus said:
Yeah, they're playing hardball with each other. I don't think anyone is "clean" in this court case. <sarcasm>Doug and Gabe make misleading statements?!?!?!? Whooda thunkit!</sacrcasm>

It's two parents who hate each other trying to stick together because of the children (HL2, HL3).

thats what happens when there's big money envolved, Greed sets in and everyone turn's into a paranoid Doof.
 
Lawyers said:
In court filings, attorneys for Sierra/VUG allege that Gabe Newell, founder and managing director of Valve, conveyed "misleading half-truth" to them, and that various ensuing conversations between Newell and Sierra/VUG executives were colored with "misrepresentations and concealment."



HAHAHAHHA half-truths! Wonder if THAT pun was intended... Stupid VUG!
 
as far as i am concearned

Valve wants profit of hl2 for themselves.
they wanted to release hl2 for an 8 oct release.
Vivendi wasnt capable of getting copy's out that date, world wide.
Vivendi's pissed at Valve because of the selling hl2 via Steam.. Steam will be atleast weeks faster than a Physical copy.

conclusion :

Hl2 will be produced once the Trial has ended ( March 2005 ).. because Valve wants to take all those millions and they might quit with working and have a good life. Vivendi doesnt want to produce. Valve cant release it via Steam because its against the law.
 
^^^
Not gonna happen. The PR disaster for BOTH companies would be too great. VU Games is already bleeding red ink and there's something called the time value of money that makes a dollar earned today worth a lot more than a dollar earned 6 months from now.

The game will be released this year while both companies prepare their legal positions. This is called "posturing" and always takes place before everyone agrees to a negotiated settlement.
 
nutcrackr said:
:eek: wow, what is next? How interesting, wouldn't it be rather ironic if VUG stopped valve from releasing HL2 via Steam after all these people have downloaded nearly all of the game. I hope this doesn't push the date back but it doesn't sound too good.
Dear me :(

The problems in court started before Half-Life 2 began to be pre-loaded. I doubt that Valve are going to set up a game for release on Steam, only to have it fail because of VUG and a court case. Especially when they know any restrictions they have to work under.

So I really highly doubt that the games release will be pushed back because of a 2 year old on-going problem. Thats really just crazy speculation of the highest degree! (now no one is allowed to come along and prove me completely wrong, I will cry)
 
Simply amazing...thinks it's safe to say many inferences can be made as to why certain games were delayed in regards to this development.
 
I can't believe the original down payment for HL1 was only $30,000, but if you look at it from the point of view from Sierra it was pretty fair. Nobody heard of Valve before HL1 and Sierra was taking a risk.

I have nothing against Valve but you have to look at it from a legal point. When Valve signed a contract with Sierra Sierra became responsible for all distribution. Now Gabe made it sound like they weren't planning on distributing the game online so Sierra gave up certain distribution rights. This is extremely unfair to Sierra and should call for a law suit. This doesn't look very good for Valve nor VUG and could cause huge problems if a contract is broken on one side.
 
Netherscourge said:
On Friday, when asked if Valve was remained intent on making Half-Life 2 available to gamers via Steam, regardless of what was determined on October 8, Lombardi replied, "Yes."

With the next hearing date set by the court of October 8, 2004 (to hear the cross-motions of summary judgment), you can be sure the parties will have little time to check out the run-and-gun fun of Half-Life 2, but that doesn't mean they don't have their legal weapons drawn, fingers on the triggers.

This is the scary part. Seems like VUG will NOT give the green light on HL2 gold status until the summary judgment on Steam distribution is made Oct 8th.

Anyone with legal experience: what is a "summary judgment" and why does Doug think he can ignore it and distribute on Steam even if the judgment goes against Valve?

Freakin' ridiculous.
 
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