Do I have to pay for DoD when I have HL2 Gold???

[zenstorm]

When I check the steam package offers under HL2 Gold package it says "You already have this product". And when I look through the contents of the product it says... Day of Defeat:Source

If I already own it then shouldn't it appear on Steam ready to play automatically? Why does it say purchase this product?

What gives?

 

[GWalker]

No you don't, ask valve why.
It should be in your list to download now.

 

[zenstorm]

Yeah, I just found the info on steampowered.com

The basics for those also in my situation is this- If you bought HL2 gold from the shops whatever came with it is all you get (except for Aftermath I believe). This may be confusing to those who read on Steam that you have all this great stuff- which is misleading- because you don't.

Who does have all this stuff are the people who bought the same thing you bought in the shops, but via Steam. These are the lucky ones.

Personally I'm furious about this. Had I known at the time I would have never bought the retail version. What a waste of money this now seems.

Once my steampowered account is accepted I'm going to ask Valve to do some kind of Steam package upgrade for all the poor saps that fit my description. I just see it as very very unfair on the people who Valve says they're behind.

 

[MiccyNarc]

I bought HL2 Gold, and I've got DoD:S.

 

[OCybrManO]

Well, the problem was that DoD was on a different publisher than the rest of the games. It's not legal to give you an Activision game for free as a bonus when you purchase a Vivendi game unless the contract with Activision allows it, and that's not likely since it would hurt their profits. On Steam, they could do anything because the publishers don't control it. Now that EA has the distribution rights to everything... you still won't be able to get them in a single package, although probably because EA wants more money. You'll get just about everything but DoD:S in the Game of the Year Edition of HL2. If you want a hard copy of DoD:S you would have to also get the CS:S / HL2DM / DoD:S package.

Anyway, you're pissed because you didn't look at the contents to see what you were getting? ... or is it that you didn't compare it to the Steam version to see what they were getting?

Also, has anyone noticed that Activision still wants $50 for the original Day of Defeat in their online store thingy?

 

[zenstorm]

The problem is that I would have never have bought the retail collectors edition of HL2 if I had known that I wouldn't be able to access DoD, the back catalog, et al. And neither would have many others. In fact, they would have all bought the steam gold package. Okay, you can say I didn't read the contract or the fine print, but at the end of the day I feel disgusted that I have to pay 85 bucks to buy a game package that I essentially already own. What I have recently proposed to Valve is an upgrade option for all the idiot fans like me who thought they were doing the right thing. A small fee to upgrade to their gold package from the retail collector's edition package. That I could live with. But when I read the list of games on the gold package and a star burst beside it telling me "You already purchased this product", then that simply aggravates me, because now I found out I don't own this product at all.

 

[sinkoman]

You're not the only one who's complaining. This is like, the billionth thread.

You didn't read the packaging, you didn't know what you were buying, your problem.

And so that you don't pull something like "omfg you buy from steam so you don't know how it feels", I too bought retail CE, and I knew perfectly well what I was getting.

And again, you're not reading it too well. It doesn't say that you purchased gold, it says that you already purchased a package, and can't purchase another. And that star just says that it's only available via Steam. Dunno where the hell you got that you purchased it.

 

[TheMastahC]

These people that are bitching are morons. Stop bitching to Valve that you didn't stop and look to see what you were paying for. If anything, Valve should be praised, because they had the best deal out there for the games.

 

[Ennui]

Gold != Collectors Edition.

Gold is ONLY available through steam.

 

[sinkoman]

Gold != Collectors Edition.

Gold is ONLY available through steam.

Erhrm

$gold != "Collectors Edition";

$gold === "Avai only via steam";

 

[zenstorm]

**** you sinkoman.

The starburst reads: Offer available only on Steam. (Big deal)

And the message beneath it reads: Thank you! You have already purchased HL2 on Steam. Etc.

Don't you get how that can be misleading? Now if it said: Thank you! You have registered your retail copy via steam, however the gold package is a separate package. Only one package/product can be purchased per steam account. That would then be NOT misleading, so **** you.

And besides, what's stopping Valve from doing an upgrade deal???? My problem was that I like the "billions of other people bitching about this" hadn't ever had to deal with a game registration system like Steam before. We only ever went to the shop and bought the game from the shelf. As a result we made a fairly honest mistake. And I think you're being a cockhead for being as blunt as you are. So here is my take on it, why doesn't Valve do the fair thing and provide an upgrade deal for all the newbies like me who fell into the retail trap?

 

[Link]

Zenstorm - Stop being a prat. Your not getting something you didn't pay for, so stop moaning.

The reason gold and silver on steam had more included is simply that valve made more money on those than retail, so gave them as a reward for buying through steam. Why would they now offer a small upgrade fee, to get a full retail game, after you have bought the retail version, which got them less money?

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

why doesn't Valve do the fair thing and provide an upgrade deal for all the newbies like me who fell into the retail trap?

Trap? Are they suppose to feel sorry for people that are illiterate now too?

 

[zenstorm]

Link, you say: "Why would they now offer a small upgrade fee, to get a full retail game, after you have bought the retail version, which got them less money?"

What if the upgrade fee to a steam gold package was the same amount of money they would have lost by someone buying the retail package? (or in other words: What valve lost through retail becomes the price of the upgrade fee to a gold package) That's what I would call an upgrade fee. No-one loses. And my question is really what's stopping them from doing that? This would be a far better alternative than someone who already owns the retail collectors edition buying the whole gold package. Wouldn't you agree? Because let's face it, someone who owns the retail version _isn't_going_to_buy_the gold package. And instead will only be left grumbling, like I am. Is it a Steam account logistics thing? Is it a marketing timing/pacing thing? Do the numbers not add up? I'd love to know. So far I haven't heard anything that satisfies those questions.

And to cockmunchers like Disturbed, what's happens if people did read the terms of purchase (not saying that I did) and now want to change their mind? What happens then?

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

And to cockmunchers like Disturbed, what's happens if people did read the terms of purchase (not saying that I did) and now want to change their mind? What happens then?

If they change their mind? Too bad for them, they should've read what they were getting. Like I said, its not VALVe's fault people are illiterate/don't read what their buying.

 

[zenstorm]

Here's what a moderator wrote about this subject:

There is simply no need to allow users to upgrade.

As consumers we have a duty to research products before we invest in them. If we make a purchase that we later regret doing that that is our problem.

You still have the ability to purchase the games that are missing seperately and add them to your account.

So if you want the back catalog (minus CZ) - buy any version of HL1.

If you want DOD:S - you can buy DOD:S for $20 off of STEAM.

And you already have HL:S.
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Personally, I think that's shitty. That's just Valve being greedy capitalists bleeding as much money out of us as they can. That's not the Valve I used to know. I'm outta here. ;(

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

Personally, I think that's shitty. That's just Valve being greedy capitalists bleeding as much money out of us as they can. That's not the Valve I used to know. I'm outta here. ;(

Greedy? You run a system like Steam and take care of 2+ million accounts, then you say greedy. If they wanted to get as much money out of us as they can, you really think they'd be charging $20 for DoD:S? Good, glad you're going.

 

[DreadLord]

Ignorant Bullsh*t

You are an idiot. You failed to read what was included in the retail package, and are clearly an idiot. Stop crying here, none of us care, order DoD:S and pay for it, like the rest of us.

 

[Asus]

There is an upgrade deal...it's called buy DoD Source for 20$.