Evolution takes backseat in US schools

[CptStern]

"Dr. John Frandsen, a retired zoologist, was at a dinner for teachers in Birmingham, Ala., recently when he met a young woman who had just begun work as a biology teacher in a small school district in the state. Their conversation turned to evolution.

"She confided that she simply ignored evolution because she knew she'd get in trouble with the principal if word got about that she was teaching it," he recalled. "She told me other teachers were doing the same thing."

"Though the teaching of evolution makes the news when officials propose, as they did in Georgia, that evolution disclaimers be affixed to science textbooks, or that creationism be taught along with evolution in biology classes, stories like the one Dr. Frandsen tells are more common.

In districts around the country, even when evolution is in the curriculum it may not be in the classroom, according to researchers who follow the issue."

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hmmm fantasy in a science class? there is no room in the education system for creationism , there's just no evidence to support it whatsoever ..stick it in religion class or social scineces but to teach creationism in biology courses is not just ludicrous but it also sets an extremely bad precedent for students studying truth in science

 

[KoreBolteR]

every kid has too learn evlolution !!
cause i did

Stern, are they teaching the kids the religious way of life..?
like "god put us on earth in 7 days"?

cos you know what i think of that!, if he did build the earth in seven days, what the hell did he do on the eighth? :rolling:

sorry if i went offtopic a bit

 

[CptStern]

every kid has too learn evlolution !!
cause i did

Stern, are they teaching the kids the religious way of life..?
like "god put us on earth in 7 days"?

cos you know what i think of that!, if he did build the earth in seven days, what the hell did he do on the eighth? :rolling:

sorry if i went offtopic a bit

hmmm I'm not following you ..are you asking if I'll teach my kid(s) about creationism? if that's the case nooo ...santa claus and the tooth fairy is fantasy enough for my son/future kid, no need to fill his head with more

 

[Steve]

I went through all 12 years of grade school and never once was creationism mentioned in my science classes. EVEN the 2 years I went to Episcopal (a parochial school, in case you can't guess).

 

[Pressure]

I went through all 12 years of grade school and never once was creationism mentioned in my science classes. EVEN the 2 years I went to Episcopal (a parochial school, in case you can't guess).

Same here except for the Episcopal thing lol.

 

[WySiWyG]

Ridiculous. While your at it you might as well ban science entirely. Don't want anything to contradict the bible now do we?

 

[Pressure]

You must remember the United States is a country of one religion.

 

[satch919]

:hmph: What the hell is wrong with society?! :angry:

Religion has no place in school. However, if they want to teach creationism, they might as well teach concepts of the Bhuddist, Islamic, Jewish faiths.

 

[CptStern]

:hmph: What the hell is wrong with society?! :angry:

Religion has no place in school. However, if they want to teach creationism, they might as well teach concepts of the Bhuddist, Islamic, Jewish faiths.

dont forget the Raelians!

 

[Pressure]

Raelians hold as much grounds as any other religion. None of them can be proven. I don't see how people thinking aliens are crazier than just appearing.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Raelians hold as much grounds as any other religion. None of them can be proven. I don't see how people thinking aliens are crazier than just appearing.

That's why religion should stay outta school. All religions are equally grounded in mythology, and it would be borderline impossible to teach every single religious belief in one year.

The US is multicultural, and schools should reflect that by not playing favorites with religion.
The only way to have religious equality in school is to keep religion out of the curriculum and let parents and churches do the religious teaching.

 

[Sainku]

Neither should be taught in school, both should be discussed. They all have the same amount of laughable evidence.




Edit: When I say both I mean evolution and religious theories.

 

[CptStern]

Neither should be taught in school, both should be discussed. They both have the same amount of laughable evidence.

one is "haha, that makes sense" laughable and the other is "omg do they expect us to swallow this kiddie story?" laughable

I refer you to this if you have any further doubts:

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69179

 

[Sainku]

I didnt say the theories were laughable, I said the evidence supporting them was. If I had to choose one it would probably be evolution just because to me it seems less ridiculous than other theories. However none are proven, and in my time in school all the books had evolution set in stone never even mentioning anything else or that it wasnt proven. So I think instead of teaching them they should all be discussed as theories, which they are.

 

[Wraith]

rename it to "logic takes backseat in U.S. schools" and you have discovered one of the absolute truisms of life.

 

[Apos]

Hey Sainku, I invite you to join in the evolution thread:
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69179&page=3

Maybe you can back up your claims there. For now, I'll just note that evolution has more evidence backing it up than virtually anything else one is likely to encounter. You are also classicaly in error about what "theory" means in regards to science. Evolution is both a theory (i.e. a testable body of explanatory frameworks) and a fact (it happened, and is happening right now, on this planet, explaining the diversity of life).

 

[CptStern]

I was wondering how long it would take you to set him straight :E