Excuse me, Valve?

[DeRanger]

Are you going to be fixing this game we paid for so we could have the priviledge of beta testing it for you guys?

Naturally I'm talking about the stuttering problem which for me has turned into sound loop hard locks in Anticitizen.

Please don't comment on what could be wrong with my system (A64 3400+/K8T NEO FIS2R/1 gig DDR 400/x800 pro/SB Audigy 2/MAxtor 200 gig SATA, etc.) because every other program and every other game (DOOM 3, Far Cry, etc.) I use run fast and work flawlessly. I am also fairly adept at configuring a PC and I've also spent a large portion of my life recently researching a multitude of fixes of which I've tried with no success. The only help we seem to be receiving is that from other dedicated HL players on the Steam Powered forums.

So what do ya' say, you going to throw the minions a bone one of these days or should we feel fortunate we had the opportunity to pay for your so-called "game of the year" that some of us can't play and enjoy because of an obviously flawed engine, Miles API therein or something else completely out of our control?

Hmmm..?

Thank-you

 

[grecco_diego]

**** valve

 

[The Mullinator]

You do realize that most companies don't even release patches until a a few months have past after release right?

Just because you aren't seeing results doesn't mean they aren't working on it.

 

[iphitus]

try "cl_smooth 0" and see if that fixes stutterbug, it had success on another forum i saw.

 

[WhiteZero]

You think this game is bad to the point it's still Beta?
hahahahahhaaa!!!
Try playing Vampire Bloodlines.
omg...

 

[Leonardo1]

Are you going to be fixing this game we paid for so we could have the priviledge of beta testing it for you guys?

Naturally I'm talking about the stuttering problem which for me has turned into sound loop hard locks in Anticitizen.

Please don't comment on what could be wrong with my system (A64 3400+/K8T NEO FIS2R/1 gig DDR 400/x800 pro/SB Audigy 2/MAxtor 200 gig SATA, etc.) because every other program and every other game (DOOM 3, Far Cry, etc.) I use run fast and work flawlessly. I am also fairly adept at configuring a PC and I've also spent a large portion of my life recently researching a multitude of fixes of which I've tried with no success. The only help we seem to be receiving is that from other dedicated HL players on the Steam Powered forums.

So what do ya' say, you going to throw the minions a bone one of these days or should we feel fortunate we had the opportunity to pay for your so-called "game of the year" that some of us can't play and enjoy because of an obviously flawed engine, Miles API therein or something else completely out of our control?

Hmmm..?

Thank-you

Well said sir!

 

[WhiteZero]

I love how this guy registers on an Unoffical forum, just to complain directly to VALVe (whoes chance of seeing this thread are slim-to-none) about a problem they obviously know about and are working on.

*continues the never ending seach for the point*

 

[Leonardo1]

Im sure valve will excuse him!

 

[Flyingbig]

I feel his pain though, hes just using this forum to vent his anger rather than on his girlfriend/mother/dog/cat :sniper:
In all honestly though this is the worst release of any game ever. Its shocking to the point i have a hard time believing its actually happening. I updated my whole system just for this game and this is what i get? The stuttering makes me paranoid to the point that i am convinced there is actually something wrong with my computer.
Its just as well that its valve who messed up big, if it had been any other developer then the company would be on the short road to going bust. I'd love to say i'd never buy a game from valve again but lets face it, i'd be talking rubbish. The guys are talented just not when it comes to bug testing. Off to try Ram timings to see if that helps :angry:

 

[WhiteZero]

In all honestly though this is the worst release of any game ever.

In all ignorance you mean?

I refer back to my first reply in this thread.

 

[DeRanger]

Aren't you a bundle of joy having bought not one but two games using this bug-ridden engine. I'd be calling Osama to fly a jet into Valve's mail room... :|

 

[WhiteZero]

Aren't you a bundle of joy having bought not one but two games using this bug-ridden engine. I'd be calling Osama to fly a jet into Valve's mail room... :|

I didn't buy Vampire Bloodlines...

And HL2 runs bug-free and studder-free for me.
:naughty:

 

[destrukt]

but it doesn't for a large amount of people. and that's saying something.

 

[WhiteZero]

Yeah, VALVe knows this and their working on it.
People can flood every HL2 related forum with their complaints and flames to VALVe if they want; but the fact-of-the-matter is that it's not going to help get the fixes out any faster, and will only act as flamebait.

People think that just because they whine that things will get done faster... nope, I'm very sorry.

People having problems just need to calm down and be patient. Yeah, it sucks that they have to wait for fixes, but what can you do about it (other than whine and annoy HL2 communities)? Nothing... so why why do they keep doing it?

*continues his never-ending search for the point*

 

[Leonardo1]

When i do my job... to get paid, i do it right, i pay (my money that i got for doing my job right) for hl2 and valve did not do there job right.... sounds fair not to complain :rolling:

Of course they are not rushing they already have are money.... it would be a different story if they didn't get paid until the game was perfect!

What is a patch? when was it first thought of? because of a mistake! a mistake in some game along time ago started this bs trend this should not happen with every release but it's happened that much now with every game its become normal.

A patch is a lope hole for false advertsing a 'non working' game....

 

[WhiteZero]

When i do my job... to get paid, i do it right, i pay (my money that i got for doing my job right) for hl2 and valve did not do there job right.... sounds fair not to complain :rolling:

Tell me again how complaining helps when they already know the problem?

Of course they are not rushing they already have are money....

nice assumption... :rolling:

it would be a different story if they didn't get paid until the game was perfect!

No game that comes out is perfect and bugless.

What is a patch? when was it first thought of? because of a mistake! a mistake in some game along time ago started this bs trend this should not happen with every release but it's happened that much now with every game its become normal.

A patch is a lope hole for false advertsing a 'non working' game....

Are you on crack? Games don't get released with bugs because of patches; patches are released because games are buggy.
Patches for games have been around for the majority of PC Gaming history. Ya know why? Because developing a PC Game that is compatable with everyone's system is not easy. You ever tried making one? Hmmmmmm? When theres millions of hardware and software combinations for the systems people run the game on, it's nearly impossible to make a totaly stable game.

God, you ignorant people are irritating.

:smoking:

 

[iphitus]

One major bug doesnt make a game suddenly beta software.

There are always bugs and things, it's practically impossible to develop bug free software, games especially.

Also, some have commented that heaps of people have this bug, that may be true, but you dont know how many people *dont* have this bug or others, they are the ones who are in the majority.

While the stutterbug is unfortunate, Valve will have done extensive testing of this game, and it is a pity this bug made it through. However, with the range of configurations of hardware and software out there it's impossible to test everything. It is hard for them to target a program at a machine, things change, windows updates, all sorts of things can break things.

iphitus

 

[^Ben]

And valve are working on it, what more do you want?

Hopefully there will be a fix for this in the next week or so.

 

[diluted]

Don't run the game with high quality textures, that fixed the stuttering problem for me. Too bad though, 'cause the high quality textures look awesome. Medium is meh.

 

[Flyingbig]

I didn't buy Vampire Bloodlines...

And HL2 runs bug-free and studder-free for me.
:naughty:

Bare faced lie if ever i saw one, delude yourself mate, whatever makes you happy. I have tried this game on a GF6800GT and a X800XT and both stuttered, you know why? Because its a sotfware problem you idiot. So no matter what hardware you got you are still going to suffer so to say you can run Hl2 stuter free just goes to show how stupid you are or how ignorant you are, take your pick.

 

[BlackMesaDude]

So its a new week and not a word from valve yet....

 

[The Mullinator]

Bare faced lie if ever i saw one, delude yourself mate, whatever makes you happy. I have tried this game on a GF6800GT and a X800XT and both stuttered, you know why? Because its a sotfware problem you idiot. So no matter what hardware you got you are still going to suffer so to say you can run Hl2 stuter free just goes to show how stupid you are or how ignorant you are, take your pick.

Actually it runs relatively stutter free for me now as well. In fact it runs relatively stutter free for ALOT of people. He is not lying, he is just stating what he has observed from his own experience.

 

[WhiteZero]

Indeed, Mullinator.
Flyingbig, good job with your hollow flames.
The only studdering I get is when the game auto-saves, and thats for about 1 second, just like almost every game dose when it saves. I don't consider that a problem at all.

I can understand your anger though, so I don't blame you. I don't see why people with good hardware studder either. *shrugs*
But I know that I run it just fine. Maybe thats why I enjoyed it so much. :rolling:

 

[CanopuS]

True complaining is unlikely to help, but it is getting rather tedious now. I've reached the coast levels which are pretty nasty to play, although I don't have a supercomputer like some of the others here.

One thing though, I do wish Valve were a little more public and would give us updates of how things are going. The last I heard from them was before the last patch, it would be nice to have confirmation that there are still problems, without us having to rely on people pasting their emails in here etc....

Oh well.....

 

[WhiteZero]

One thing though, I do wish Valve were a little more public and would give us updates of how things are going. The last I heard from them was before the last patch, it would be nice to have confirmation that there are still problems, without us having to rely on people pasting their emails in here etc...

Hmmm, yes, this seems to be a problem with alot of developers. We the public love to get updates, no matter how small they are.

 

[Flyingbig]

Indeed, Mullinator.
Flyingbig, good job with your hollow flames.
The only studdering I get is when the game auto-saves, and thats for about 1 second, just like almost every game dose when it saves. I don't consider that a problem at all.

I can understand your anger though, so I don't blame you. I don't see why people with good hardware studder either. *shrugs*
But I know that I run it just fine. Maybe thats why I enjoyed it so much. :rolling:

Sorry bud i just don't believe you. Would be interested if you posted your specs so i can eye out that SUPER component you have installed which sole purpose is to over comes game bugs that developers openly admit to BEING there and admiting to TRYING to fix yet you, wow, your computer can overcome such bugs so i'd like to buy your super component rather than wait for a valve patch.

P.S. sorry for coming across as a complete and utter azzhole but i would really like you to post your specs, cheers

 

[WhiteZero]

Gladly
--------------
CPU: P4 2.4gHZ, 800MHz FSB; overlocked to 3.0GHz and 1000MHz FSB; L1 8KB; L2 512KB; Hyper-Threading
RAM: 2 x 512MB Corsair XMS DDR (PC-3200); 434MHz; CL: 2.3.3.7
Motherboard: Asus P4C800-E Deluxe w/ On-Board Sound
Video Card: ATi Radeon 9800Pro; Core Clock: 378.0 MHz; Memory Clock: 337.5 MHz; 128MB Texture Memory
HardDrives: 2 x Maxtor 6Y080P0 80GB; 7200 RPM; 8MB Cache

I built this in Spetemper of 2003.

You can not-believe my performance all you want, but the fact of the matter is, that not everyone has the studdering problem. Thats been a known fact since release. If you wish to ignore that fact, thats your own problem, so keep it intrapersonal.

 

[PKP Trinity]

Tell me again how complaining helps when they already know the problem?


nice assumption... :rolling:


No game that comes out is perfect and bugless.


Are you on crack? Games don't get released with bugs because of patches; patches are released because games are buggy.
Patches for games have been around for the majority of PC Gaming history. Ya know why? Because developing a PC Game that is compatable with everyone's system is not easy. You ever tried making one? Hmmmmmm? When theres millions of hardware and software combinations for the systems people run the game on, it's nearly impossible to make a totaly stable game.

God, you ignorant people are irritating.

:smoking:

Ever update your Windows O/S ... those are patches too ... I guess these people are going to sue Microsoft too for putting out a buggy O/S

 

[Leonardo1]

Tell me again how complaining helps when they already know the problem?

It doesn't really but only to vent anger and to annoy people like you because if it didn't annoy you would never be asking that question

No game that comes out is perfect and bugless.

It's not impossible is it? for it to work on the latest hardware?

Are you on crack?

nope, do you need more? i haven't got any sorry.....

Games don't get released with bugs because of patches; patches are released because games are buggy.

Some misunderstanding here, i know games don't get released with bugs because of patches, what i was did say sort of a summary *note* u didn't comment on it....

A patch is a lope hole for false advertsing a 'non working' game....

Patches for games have been around for the majority of PC Gaming history. Ya know why? Because developing a PC Game that is compatable with everyone's system is not easy. You ever tried making one? Hmmmmmm? When theres millions of hardware and software combinations for the systems people run the game on, it's nearly impossible to make a totaly stable game.

yeh okay.... i know.... sigh.... don't give a s**t not my problem, i bought the game, i want it working....

God, you ignorant people are irritating.

Good.

:smoking: :smoking:

 

[Leonardo1]

Ever update your Windows O/S ... those are patches too ... I guess these people are going to sue Microsoft too for putting out a buggy O/S

\0/ There is people out there that actually pay for a Windows O/S?.... what fools.....

 

[Leonardo1]

I built this in Spetemper of 2003.

? Click The correct spelling is September that's a fact! not an opinion! :E

You can not-believe my performance all you want, but the fact of the matter is, that not everyone has the studdering problem. Thats been a known fact since release.

Random luck!

 

[NikolaX]

and for valve didnt know at first for shuttering, look shaky cam, when they show us hl2&cs:source, intro (g-man) there was STUDDERING.

 

[WhiteZero]

heh, you wanna play the spelling & grammar game, eh?
advertsing? no, it's advertising
lope? It's loop, ya dip
"There is people out there" you mean "There are people out there"?
"what i was did say sort of a summary", please retake 2nd grade English.

Personaly, I find correcting someones spelling/grammar to be superfluous in an argument.

Anyway, onto actual discussion...

yeh okay.... i know.... sigh.... don't give a s**t not my problem, i bought the game, i want it working....

You see, it is your problem, because you have a hardware/software combo that conflicts with the game. It may not be your concern to fix it, but it is definitely your problem.

Good.

So your agreeing that your ignorant? I see...

Apparently you don't understand any of the basic elements of how game development works, thusly trying to argue with you is fruitless/pointless. Discussion over...
gg

 

[droid002]

Valve & Co problem is that they wanted this game to be "locked" until the official release.

It seems like they didn´t test this game after "unlocking" it (before the official release). I´m sure of that they didn´t use a dial-up connection neither.

I think it´s unfortunate that you have to use Steam to play this game. I have the DVD-retail version. Shouldn´t the CD and license key be enough? I can understand that Steam is required if you downloaded the game via Steam, but not otherwise.

 

[madcat75]

Valve sucks, end thread.

 

[WhiteZero]

Woohoo! More hollow comments. Gotta love them.

 

[StainlessJ-FPGA]

Valve sucks, end thread.

Nah, the engine is ok. But how many companies that make good game engines also make good games?


ID: Doom 3 was so bad I wonder if the engine is even worth mentioning. Source certainly beats the pants off it, and I've played older games that look better and played better.

Valve: Source engine is solid, but HL2 has bad multiplayer(a nasty trend) and steam bloatware, something we won't have to worry about with games built on the engine.

Epic: Unreal2 wasn't terribly popular but games built on the engine are. Unreal3 looks super hot as an engine, but the game probably will still be only so-so

Croteam: Everyone likes Serious Sam, but nobody likes the engine. Strange... I mean really, have you ever seen a game that said it was built on the Serious engine? And people actually liked the game!

When you are buying a game that is supposed to represent an entirely new engine, don't expect much. I got HL2 simply for the eye candy, I didn't expect much from the game thus am not disappointed.

 

[Adabiviak]

It's not your systems...

When I first played this game (hours after it was released) it worked just fine. I managed to play the entire game through with no problems at all. Then the Steam client was updated and I began to experience the "memory could not be read" problems, which was a little freaky because my first thought was that it was my system. After reading quite a bit on the forums, it became obvious that it's not the hardware but the software. The latest version of Steam has been working flawlessly since I updated it. I now play in offline mode to avoid any more potentially flawed updates until I see the forums clear of this sort of rot. One of my systems is a real ball of fire and another is not so hot, both of which play the game fine. If your system is slow I would expect to see slow game performance, but the sound lock is just plain weird. Are you using the latest incarnation of Steam?

 

[Leonardo1]

heh, you wanna play the spelling & grammar game, eh?
advertsing? no, it's advertising
lope? It's loop, ya dip
"There is people out there" you mean "There are people out there"?
"what i was did say sort of a summary", please retake 2nd grade English.

Otay Spetemper..... joo got me good! :dozey: I just left 2nd grade english but they are learning to spell spetemper september in 1st grade english! guess your going to have to wait to find that out..... i'll be looking out for you @ lunch time!

It may not be your concern to fix it,

It's definitely not my concern to fix it! (you got something right phew) endlich, but what i'am concerned about is how long it's taking valve to release the correct fixing patch.

but it is definitely your problem.

Impressive, but..... tell the truth now... did you get someone to help you work that out? so much easier when you get help.... infact! i think, i still need help..... please spot more erroros in my grammer and spelling.... muppet see, muppet do?

So your agreeing that your ignorant? I see...

God, you ignorant people are irritating.

1 or 2 cookies? im ignorant that's correct and it annoys you! makes me happy



What else have ye mouthed on about now.....

Apparently you don't understand any of the basic elements of how game development works, thusly
gg

Apparently, i bought a game! that's supposed to be a finished product? and it's doesn't work! yah!

trying to argue with you is fruitless/pointless.Discussion over...

You said it! shut the door on the way out!

 

[Leonardo1]

PKP Trinity

PKP = Planet Kingpin

Trinity?