Gman shows you the combine world at the end of HL1?

[Shadow][]

I think that right after you killed Nihilanth at the end of HL1 you teleport with gman as he shows Xen, but I don't think that is Xen since it is much different (cells of something living in the background? never seen those in xen before, and little more different architecture) and then gman shows you different places and you see a little glimpse of what looks like to be at the end of the 7 hour war (with the dead soldiers in the battleground) could this possibly be the combine world?

 

[FaultySanity]

I think that right after you killed Nihilanth at the end of HL1 you teleport with gman as he shows Xen, but I don't think that is Xen since it is much different (cells of something living in the background? never seen those in xen before, and little more different architecture) and then gman shows you different places and you see a little glimpse of what looks like to be at the end of the 7 hour war (with the dead soldiers in the battleground) could this possibly be the combine world?

Never thought of that.

It could very well be parts of the 7 hour war. But if i remember correctly - wasnt the background a xen-like one? And wasnt the 7 hour war fought on earth?

 

[Baldrick]

Well, its not part of the 7 hour war, gman says "we have the borderworld, xen, under our control" in that scene.

And look at the sky.

--Now for my ramble.--
I think the gman is just some freelance future guy who pimps off gordon if someone gives the gman the right stuff.
I dont know who his employers are, i dont think they would be the resistance, but someone else, maybe the vortigaunts or something (unlikely imo) .
Because he does mention that his employers authorised him to hire freeman. I think it was a bit to early for the resistance to of hired him though, unless gordon was already quite a long way through his time warp.
Oh well.
--End of ramble.--

Its not earth, its xen with sand.

Dont ask me what human forces were doing there though.

 

[Danimal]

Gman controls the human army, Shepard was originally sent to kill Nithiliaththiningymajig but Gordon did it before him, therefore, Gman like Gordon more than Shepard and Shepard is still under assessment for more work

I read it somewhere. Gman does not directly control the human army, but is a part of an anti-combine resistence thing

 

[Baldrick]

sounds like that fits in nicely.
Maybe his employers are the people of earth, or some high up guys?
Or maybe the scientists, who knows?

 

[Cole]

I simply think that the G-Mans employers are some higher power that have been undiscovered. Some..merchants. And the G-Man is the sales person. He goes out there and puts it up seeing if anyone wants Gordon\other people. I think that the G-Man in the end though is in complete control. Not what happens to you. But rather where you go, etc.. He does not care if your sent to fight for the combine, or with. He cares that he gets whatever he gets.
I think that he got all his teleporation crap that way. Did things for others and eventually constructed his own things.

 

[Asknoone]

I dont think shepard was meant to kill nihalinth, simply because marc laidlaw is just gearbox's creation and doesnt actually fit into the plot.

Personally, its way too cramped, all those soldeirs, jets and tanks lyign there, if you ask me they either got caught up in a rift or that is just a segment of earth.

Personally, when he meant borderworld, i think he meant the fact that nihlanith is sendign in troops, but instead portal storms and randomly sendign in wild life.

 

[kirovman]

Well, its not part of the 7 hour war, gman says "we have the borderworld, xen, under our control" in that scene.

And look at the sky.

I believe Xen being the 'borderworld' inplies it is somewhere between Earth and the Combine dimension, a halfway point.
And the combine wanted to use Xen as a staging post for the invasion of the Earth. However Xen was put under the G-man's control, so they delayed the invasion of Earth somewhat.

The maybe the combine took Xen back or they developed a way of getting to Earth without going via Xen. Remembering the combine have the capability to teleport cross-dimensionally, but not locally.
I think Xen is free from Combine after Nihilanth had been killed, and Vortigaunts have some diplomatic relations with earth, eventually leading to Vortiguants and humans fighting alongside.
And the Vortiguants have allowed Eli and Kleiner to use Xen as a slingshot point for their teleporters.

Dunno if that's correct, just what I understand.

 

[Sid Burn]

Well, Xen was controlled by combines before... so Xen can be called a combine world. but then again... I can say its only Xen with a different surroundings.

 

[Jangle]

i think so.
at the end one of the places he teleports you too is what looks like earth, with broken vehicles and fires and stuff. And he says something like look what you have done to the world.

 

[<RJMC>]

I think that place whit dead soldiers and stuff are the ruins of black mesa

EDIT:I dont remenber that sky in that part
EDIT2: thats HL:S right?

 

[Hectic Glenn]

I believe Xen being the 'borderworld' inplies it is somewhere between Earth and the Combine dimension, a halfway point.
And the combine wanted to use Xen as a staging post for the invasion of the Earth. However Xen was put under the G-man's control, so they delayed the invasion of Earth somewhat.

The maybe the combine took Xen back or they developed a way of getting to Earth without going via Xen. Remembering the combine have the capability to teleport cross-dimensionally, but not locally.
I think Xen is free from Combine after Nihilanth had been killed, and Vortigaunts have some diplomatic relations with earth, eventually leading to Vortiguants and humans fighting alongside.
And the Vortiguants have allowed Eli and Kleiner to use Xen as a slingshot point for their teleporters.

Dunno if that's correct, just what I understand.

This guy knows what hes talking about, and this is the theory held to this day. Gman doesnt show you the combine world at the end of HL1...but he does at the end HL2

 

[Patten]

He dosn't show you anything at the end of HL2, just teleports you into a black area with the lights going by and then leaves.

At least thats all I remember seeing at the end of HL2.

 

[JrdnGrn]

Gman doesnt show you the combine world at the end of HL1...but he does at the end HL2

Yeah, what r u talking bout..he doesnt show anything.

 

[JamesPicard_007]

If you give the portal at the top of the Citadel a chance to open you can see an alien world on the other side. Assumedly this is a Combine controlled world.

 

[kirovman]

If you give the portal at the top of the Citadel a chance to open you can see an alien world on the other side. Assumedly this is a Combine controlled world.

Yes there are tall pillars, looks like one of those floating Xen islands maybe, they have big pillars coming out of them, they were Xen's factory chimneys I think, there were some smokey emissions from the top of them.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

The world on the other side looks a polluted world, rather than asteroids in a nebula. Think of Venus. But with portal relays everywhere.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Eejit]

I dont think shepard was meant to kill nihalinth, simply because marc laidlaw is just gearbox's creation and doesnt actually fit into the plot.

Sigged!

 

[Asknoone]

rofl...i dont believe i said that, thats the worst type EVER.

Allow me to re phrase:

I dont think shepard was meant kill nihlanith, simply because marc laidlaw stated shepard is gearbox's creation and doesnt actually fit into the plot...

rofl...i dont believe it

 

[Scotsman]

I didn't quite understand all the mumbo-jumbo about teleportation, but isn't Xen (the borderworld) linking universes? If so that would explain how the combine attacked earth and the worldwide infestation of headcrabs and zombies.

 

[Asknoone]

I didn't quite understand all the mumbo-jumbo about teleportation, but isn't Xen (the borderworld) linking universes? If so that would explain how the combine attacked earth and the worldwide infestation of headcrabs and zombies.
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The black mesa incident caused the portal storms, and it swept across earth, xen aliens (wildlife) were transported here

 

[Eejit]

rofl...i dont believe i said that, thats the worst type EVER.

Allow me to re phrase:

I dont think shepard was meant kill nihlanith, simply because marc laidlaw stated shepard is gearbox's creation and doesnt actually fit into the plot...

rofl...i dont believe it

It's too late to backtrack! We all know that's what you really meant!

 

[zinquaff]

hey, I got a question. Are the mini nitliaths and the guys with the hornet huns from hl1 free now, or are they still combine soliders.

 

[Eejit]

hey, I got a question. Are the mini nitliaths and the guys with the hornet huns from hl1 free now, or are they still combine soliders.

Short answer: I don't know. Unless they were mentioned in a Prima book the Controllers and Grunts do not feature in HL2 at all.

 

[Is This Tea]

Short answer: I don't know. Unless they were mentioned in a Prima book the Controllers and Grunts do not feature in HL2 at all.

Yeah that’s some info we're all dying to know about… I hope we get some hints in the next exp.

 

[Asknoone]

I think that the Grunts were wiped out, afterall, when you destroy the nihalinth i think he sends out ruptures and collapses the factory that the grunts are manufactured in...

But then again i might be wrong

And if that wasnt the case, then who is going to continue manufacturing them?

As for the controllers, i have no idea...maybe they fell with the nihalnith

 

[Joe]

Allow me to re phrase:

I dont think shepard was meant kill nihlanith, simply because marc laidlaw stated shepard is gearbox's creation and doesnt actually fit into the plot...

rofl...i dont believe it

Source?

 

[kirovman]

I think that the Grunts were wiped out, afterall, when you destroy the nihalinth i think he sends out ruptures and collapses the factory that the grunts are manufactured in...

But then again i might be wrong

And if that wasnt the case, then who is going to continue manufacturing them?

As for the controllers, i have no idea...maybe they fell with the nihalnith

However there are millions of grunts waiting for you in a chamber should you refuse the G-man's offer...which implies he set up an army of them.

 

[Asknoone]

Originally Posted by Marc Laidlaw
Hi, Solver, I'm assuming whatever I tell you is going to get posted somewhere, so I'll be very careful in answering.

I will not talk about the meaning of the game or clear up stuff that has yet to be clarified or revealed; it only makes sense to do this in the context of the games themselves. Stuff that hasn't been revealed is that way because we're not ready to reveal it. Everything that's there is there for a reason; ditto for everything that isn't there. I can only say, "Stay tuned."

Race-X was Gearbox's creation, and likely would only be continued if Gearbox were to do more episodes in the HL universe. There were gameplay modes they wanted to explore, and their designers wanted to make some new monsters; Race-X was a great way for them to do this. The universe is expansive enough to allow this without conflicting with the core story. Remember, these are games first and foremost, and the story really is there to open up and extend (rather than shut down) possibilities for fun gameplay. We did coordinate overarching story elements with Gearbox, but left a lot of the details for them to explore and invent according to what worked for their design process. As for whether Shepherd was put on ice before or after the Nihilanth's demise, it's really hard to say, since Gordon's time in Xen and in the Nihilanth's chamber may not be mapped directly against the timeline of events at Black Mesa.

The gman mumbles sound fairly close to what I remember him saying...strangely enough, I can't find the script for that exchange.

Thanks for taking such an interest in the story. Before HL1 came out, it was tough to convince outsiders that FPS players would care at all about having any kind of story in their game. Obviously, given the wide range of reactions, they care quite a bit. The debate over HL2's content is much more varied.

Yours,
Marc Laidlaw

However there are millions of grunts waiting for you in a chamber should you refuse the G-man's offer...which implies he set up an army of them.
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Why would he do that?...hmmm....

 

[Planeforger]

I think that the Grunts were wiped out, afterall, when you destroy the nihalinth i think he sends out ruptures and collapses the factory that the grunts are manufactured in...

But then again i might be wrong

And if that wasnt the case, then who is going to continue manufacturing them?

As for the controllers, i have no idea...maybe they fell with the nihalnith

But if Nihilanth was an administrator for the Combine, then maybe the combine would continue making them.