half-life 2 plot going off the rails?

[Sub_Lon]

At the end of halflife, the GMan takes you to some military blockade they set up on Zen... Now they're going to need some soldiers to man these guard posts on Zen... What if the Combine are the product of these bored, lonely soldiers and some sexy Zen inhabitants?

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

At the end of halflife, the GMan takes you to some military blockade they set up on Zen... Now they're going to need some soldiers to man these guard posts on Zen... What if the Combine are the product of these bored, lonely soldiers and some sexy Zen inhabitants?

Actually you get left on a train.....

 

[The Dark Elf]

Mr. Magnetichead

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This is your ONLY warning, change your attitude and also stop acting like you run the place, we have recieved a number of reports on the way you've been acting and it will stop, right here, right now or you will be banned, any attempt to sign up to the site after that will get you a ban on sight, you will be IP banned and your ISP informed of your behavior if you continue further.

 

[Sub_Lon]

Me. Through force as was the way with other Nazi forces.

Your profile says you were born in 1983, don't you think that makes you a little old to be taking out your frustrations on forum posters?

So what do people think of the idea that the Combine are illegitimate bastard crossbreed human/alien offspring?

*EDIT* Deleted Brittish burn. The gracious Dark Elf got to him first.

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

That's Fair enough but for the record:

1. I only swore once and if it was that big of a problem you would implement a swear filter in this forum.

2. I didn't start any of these threads.

3. I was trying to uphold the guidlines of this forum.

4. My IP is dynamic.

 

[Sub_Lon]

Actually you get left on a train.....

I wish i could hug you through the computer...

*Edit* Made it nicer

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

I wish i could stab you through the computer...

Personal Attack? 2 posts after someone get's a warning for it?

 

[ACLeroK212]

ok, enough already. if you guys still have a problem pm a mod or exchange emails and hate mail each other all day, but please spare us. it's getting old.

 

[The Dark Elf]

That's Fair enough but for the record:

1. I only swore once and if it was that big of a problem you would implement a swear filter in this forum.

2. I didn't start any of these threads.

3. I was trying to uphold the guidlines of this forum.

4. My IP is dynamic.

Your warned, and if your behavior doesn't change your gone, arguing about it wont help you.

 

[Envi_81]

Look up definition of Half-Life, not the science term and look up Combine... put them together and a plot may form for city 17... think abstract, it might help...

I kinda get whats going on from the HL2 movies and HL1... I think city 17 is some sort of staging ground for attack or tactical observation ground for the Combine fortress. There may be a huge war on the rest of earth between all the different aliens in the HL univerese and City 17 one of the 17 cities left on earth. Is untouched by war but is still in uprising, (hense the guy on the monitors in E3 2004, "welcome to city 17, it's safer here"). The G-man is probably working as a gate keeper for all forces coming to earth through portals, Gorden is his personal gaurd (well thats what the G-man thinks). The combine are probably a genetically engineered alien race combined with Humans and a Xen creature to uphold order within the last 17 cities, until half the battle on earth is over, the combine will initiate some kind of plan...

Well thats what i got out of it anyway.

 

[ferd]

We have seen Xen aliens (Eli Vance's lab).

an hy would any of those reasons proof that there wont be a plot?

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Your warned, and if your behavior doesn't change your gone, arguing about it wont help you.

Woah Woah. I wasn't arguing. Just making sure that you were seeing things from every perspective.

 

[ferd]

Look up definition of Half-Life, not the science term and look up Combine... put them together and a plot may form for city 17... think abstract, it might help...

I never actually looked those words up, and now I did, I find it very interesting, thx for pointing that out

 

[Sub_Lon]

Look up definition of Half-Life, not the science term and look up Combine... put them together and a plot may form for city 17... think abstract, it might help...

What other definition is there for Half Life other than the scientific term of "the amount of time it takes a radioactive material to decrease by 50%?"

 

[DevgruSeal]

Who cares?

HL2 is a totally different game, taking place a decade after the Black Mesa lab accident. The story doesn't have to follow HL1, as this is City 17, NOT Black Mesa!

 

[Cybernoid]

have they completely lost the idea of continuing a story? the game might as well be called "The Comibe" or something!

I was going to address your comments properly, but it seems that you're just a clueless moron who wouldn't believe me anyways.

 

[Envi_81]

lol sorry, there is no other def unless you relate it to the HL2 story in which case there is another def... you just have to play around with it and experiment ideas about how it could relate to the story...
it'll make sense only if your not expecting everything to have a hardcore explanation for the definition of Half-Life...

 

[AJ Rimmer]

Who cares?

HL2 is a totally different game, taking place a decade after the Black Mesa lab accident. The story doesn't have to follow HL1, as this is City 17, NOT Black Mesa!

But most people will still want some sort of connection between the two games, storyline-wise.

 

[DevgruSeal]

Ahh true. But still, is there need to fuss and whine over it, though?

 

[Kristafon]

I was going to address your comments properly, but it seems that you're just a clueless moron who wouldn't believe me anyways.

oooo your so clever, you just obviously know evrything an evryone else is inferior

all i wanted to do was make my point and put my opinions across, why do i have to have people like you making it so diffciult and starting arguments for no good reason, due to you thinking what i wrote just above

 

[Kristafon]

Ahh true. But still, is there need to fuss and whine over it, though?

By your "fussing and whineing" i think most people describe it as discussing, and guess what, this is a board for discussing half-life 2 which is what i am trying to do

 

[Mechagodzilla]

What do HL1&2 have in common?

Gordon
Dr. Vance
Dr. Kliener
G-man
Barney
Barnacles
Headcrabs
Zombies
Bullsquid
Vortigaunts
Crowbar
Tau Cannon
RPGL
HEV

...and probably far, far more that hasn't been revealed yet.
I don't see a problem.

 

[blahblahblah]

To me HL and HL2 seems like a huge plot discontinuity. It is like the plot from the Matrix and the plot from the Matrix: Reloaded. Technicaly they had the same story line but they felt like completely different movies. For me, having a huge plot discontinuity hurt the matrix story line.

I am really curious on how they will implement the plot of HL into HL2. I want to see some of the questions of HL answered.

 

[ATI4EVER!]

i dont know about you, but i think the plot of this half-life is going astray from the original-

no more military/black-ops (so far)- they where an important part of the original, they have seemed to have been left out

no more xen aliens (practically)- all i have seen is a few zombies

the combine- the role of enemy in the game has seem to have been replaced by the combine, its like a totally different game with no relation to half-life 1 alltogether!

no more xen- no a single visit to the borderworld this time round

no more portals- no visit to xen, as well as no portals

have they completely lost the idea of continuing a story? the game might as well be called "The Comibe" or something!

I have very little time, so i couldn't read through all the posts, I'm sure someone has said this already but incase they haven't here it is:

Half Life 2 is set a long time after Half Life 1, Gordan Freeman, you, don't know where you are, or what you are supposed to do. The point of the game is to basically find out. That was Valve's intention. Why did they do this? There are 2 reasons (in my opinion)
1. It lets people who have not played Half Life 1 to play Half Life 2 without being lost.
2. Itg amkes the game more exciting.

As for there not being any travel to xen, this is becasue some players didn't like those levels, so Valve scratched them.

And about there not being any military men people in HL2, they probably think you are dead.

(I'm not sure what BTW means but i think it would fit here )

BTW: If you succesfully beat Half Life 1 and killed the giant alien, you would know why there are no aliens in HL2: That big thing made all of them.

 

[Fender357]

I'm using Dsty2001's post as a palate for mine....

no more military/black-ops (so far)- they where an important part of the original, they have seemed to have been left out - The game takes place 10 years later. There are a hell of a lot less people in the world and this one scientists (Dr. Breen) thinks that keeping the remaining population in total controle by use of the Combine is a good idea. And it has been stated that the Combine are a creatoin of Dr.Breen with his research and work at Black Mesa.

no more xen aliens (practically)- all i have seen is a few zombies - Uh, Headcrabs, Zombies, The water aliens, Barnacles, and Bullsquid, Vortiguant, and alot of others are returning. I remember Valve saying ALL were returning.

the combine- the role of enemy in the game has seem to have been replaced by the combine, its like a totally different game with no relation to half-life 1 alltogether! its 10 years later. Aliens have totaled the earth. We don't even know if there is a United States government to have an army. Just because things are different dosn't mean this is a different story. And the point of it all is... You don't know what the hell is going on... Gordon's been asleep for 10 damn years. He's confused... you'r confused.


no more xen- no a single visit to the borderworld this time round - Oh well . Oh well..... Xen wasn't that popular. And anyway.... Xen (the borderworld) was taken care of by Gordon and the military. Like the G-man says.. "we have taken controle of the borderworld"

no more portals- no visit to xen, as well as no portals Thats almost the exact same question again. We know that Dr. Kliner and Eli have been working on something for the resistance. They're both damn smart, and at Black Mesa they were working will primarily teleportation technology. Who's to say they aren't still?

 

[kaf11]

no, the story seems to relate just fine.

 

[Vegeta897]

It wouldn't be Half-Life 2 if it was like Half-Life 1.

The game takes place FIFTEEN YEARS after the original, it's gonna be different.

Drastic events took place at the end of Half-Life 1, (Joining G-Man, BMRF nuked, etc.) and these events are carried out in HL2.
I see no problem.

Besides, none of us know enough about the game to say anything at all.

 

[Driftlight]

Does anyone else think that it should have been City 14 (or 12) instead of 17, in order to keep with the whole science\chemistry theme?

12 C and 14 C are carbon isotopes.

 

[Vegeta897]

Does anyone else think that it should have been City 14 (or 12) instead of 17, in order to keep with the whole science\chemistry theme?

12 C and 14 C are carbon isotopes.

Because you have to be older than 17 to play it.

I am sure they just chose a random number, although we probably learn in the game that it has signifigance...

 

[B.Calhoun]

Xen sucks ass anyways, i dont wanna go back. HL2 is a different game but linked at the same time....who would want to play the original plot again....after so many years of making HL2

 

[Chump]

i dont know about you, but i think the plot of this half-life is going astray from the original-

no more military/black-ops (so far)- they where an important part of the original, they have seemed to have been left out

no more xen aliens (practically)- all i have seen is a few zombies

the combine- the role of enemy in the game has seem to have been replaced by the combine, its like a totally different game with no relation to half-life 1 alltogether!

no more xen- no a single visit to the borderworld this time round

no more portals- no visit to xen, as well as no portals

have they completely lost the idea of continuing a story? the game might as well be called "The Comibe" or something!

Honestly didnt read thread, but my answers:

The Military was part of the U.S. Army correct? Well seeing how this is in Europe, The U.S. can't just send the Army there, and if they had in the story, we'd know.

To every single other question (btw you repeated yourself alot): THIS IS HL2 not HL1. The pourpose of continuing a story can be a few things. You'll see things like the lord of the Rings where you have an ongoing story until the ultimate quest is completed, or you'll have a story with the same characters in a new situation, quite like say the Tom Clancy Novels and Jack Ryan. Now HL1 may not have a huge deal to do with HL2 directly, but looks to have a huge amount to do with it inderectly. Remember, You'r still Gordan Freeman, but you're not at Black Mesa any more. Your past remains the same, and your relations with the G-man obviously have a ton to do with your future actions. The events at Black Mesa probably brought about a new problem, whatever that may be (the combine most likely). This is all we can really know at the Moment and the rest will be told through the game. From the videos you probably have alot of questions as to what happened imbetween the last game and this one, and valve will answer many of these.

 

[SAJ]

You know , I think the original poster has (after a fashion ) a perfectly reasonable point.
After all , If you think about it from a film sequel perspective you would be forgiven for being confused by such a dramatic shift in settings AND a willful vagueness about how the continuity relates from one to the other.
Cmon , if the trailer for "hulk" 2 featured a pair of hippies on harleys , audiences around the world would be shouting "WTF !!??" in total unison, and that would be pretty easy to understand.

Valve have chosen a deliberately obscure setting for the continuation of their story and have confounded their audiences expectations.Why else would there be umpteen different threads on this (and many other)site, devoted to speculation about the story of HL2 ?
On top of that , they (valve) are not giving away much about the story ,choosing to let their audience stay on tenterhooks(*no I dont know the origin of that word either*) until the final release.

What Im getting at here is , so what if the original poster phrases his question badly? Its the exact same kind of question Valve are expecting all of us to be asking ourselves.

ps love the idea of c12/14 , nifty.

 

[PatPwnt]

i dont know about you, but i think the plot of this half-life is going astray from the original-

no more military/black-ops (so far)- they where an important part of the original, they have seemed to have been left out

no more xen aliens (practically)- all i have seen is a few zombies

the combine- the role of enemy in the game has seem to have been replaced by the combine, its like a totally different game with no relation to half-life 1 alltogether!

no more xen- no a single visit to the borderworld this time round

no more portals- no visit to xen, as well as no portals

have they completely lost the idea of continuing a story? the game might as well be called "The Comibe" or something!

HL1's plot was boring... I like HL2. Head crabs, Barnacles, Itchyosaurus, squidmonster , zombies, vortigaunts. is that all the xenians I have seen in HL2.

 

[wayne white]

the game is only 20 to 30 hrs.

 

[Cybernoid]

oooo your so clever, you just obviously know evrything an evryone else is inferior

If you say so.

all i wanted to do was make my point and put my opinions across, why do i have to have people like you making it so diffciult and starting arguments for no good reason, due to you thinking what i wrote just above

Your "points" made no sense at all.

 

[Kouler]

was you expecting he gets hired by some other company and the exact thing happens?

"1 big mac"
".." (gordon is mute)
"sir?"
"......"
"umm.....1 big mac with coke please?"
".. ..., ...!"
"fine, ill go to burger king"

*customer trips on wet floor and falls at such speed that he rips open a hole in time and space and aliens attack macdonalds


* noluck must lay off the juice

That has to be the funniest thing I read all day!!!! hahahah

 

[ATI4EVER!]

It's only 20-30 hours long

everyone say together:

Spoiler

MULTIPLAYER!!

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Not to mention that the official* estimate is somewhere between 36 and 48 hours of single player.

*Note: waynewhite is in no way officially representative of anything, ever.

 

[ATI4EVER!]

very off topic, but can someone please explain to me what spoilers are for?! I don't get it? In my old forums (gamingforums.com) they didn't have them, or at least no one used them.

 

[Asknoone]

double posted