Half-Life 2 -vs- Stalker Oblivian Lost?

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Which game do you think will present better visuals?
Which game do you think will present better physics?
Which game do you think will have larger/higher poly environments?

I would love to know if the source engine could duplicate some of Stalkers amazing looking outdoor areas. All that grass and bushes and shrubs and trees. Droooool. I hope Source can do all that too as nicely.
 
what do you think what the answers will be?

probally HL2 better visuals
better physics? look at the hl2 E3 videos
larger poly? probally HL2
 
what physics will stalker have? didn't hear them mention physics at all on their web-site....

what I'm wondering is how free you will be allowed to roam in HL2...
 
Originally posted by PriNcE oF SpAcE


what I'm wondering is how free you will be allowed to roam in HL2...
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Oh yeah, forgot about that, someone should e-mail gabe about that :)
 
Originally posted by jasonh1234
Which game do you think will present better visuals?
Which game do you think will present better physics?
Which game do you think will have larger/higher poly environments?

I would love to know if the source engine could duplicate some of Stalkers amazing looking outdoor areas. All that grass and bushes and shrubs and trees. Droooool. I hope Source can do all that too as nicely.
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well what about Far Cry and Doom 3?

why dont we compare HL2 vs. Doom 3 vs. Farcry vs. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. in the categories of visuals, story, gameplay, physics.

some of the categories will be hard to judge at this moment, the easiest will probably be visuals since we've seen videos of all three games, and screenshots. anyways, yay or nay?


BTW, i feel gameplay and story are the most important aspects, and at this moment S.T.A.L.K.E.R. seems to lack a story.....
 
Talking of farcry...have you seen the editor for that thing ?!, its amazing!
 
I think that name is not correct : Stalker Oblivion Lost
 
http://www.stalker-game.com

It is the correct name i think. Ive had the video for Stalker for ages, i think itll be a great game. The physic probably wont be as in depth as HL2 but it has got a decent physics engine. It could pull off some cool "Behind Enemy Lines" mod. :)

I think HL2 will have a better story, better gameplay and better physics. Not too far away but better in all disciplines. Stalker has got the outside environments that Operation FLashpoint deserved.
 
Stalker = more of the same. Half-life2 ummm Striders!!! need i say more. buddy hl2 may have similar detail graphics but that means nothing. what makes everyone so interested in halflife2 is the new and refreshing progressive ideas comming out of valve not that its models and environment look really good which helps =).

looking at all these games hl2 is the most original. the rest look like a better looking box with the same thing inside.

hl2 #1.. no question.
 
When is this game out, cos you have to remember that HL2 is out in september and they allready said that they area plannin to release new graphics and content updates over steam after the game is released. Which means that even if it isnt on top now if probably will be before that game hits the shelves :)
 
I think stalker is behind HL2 in development. I think its due for release in Q1 2004. Probs be later than that tho.
 
hmmmmm well im looking forward to HL2 more but S.T.A.L.K.E.R will OWN!!!! atleast i hope so..... there can never be too many clasic FPS shooters out at the saem time.

STALKER looks to have better textures from what i've seen so far but the gfx and physics in HL2 look more impressive although the textures dont even look half complete in the HL2 demos so we can wait and see.

my anticipation list goes like this:
1) HL2
2) STALKER
3) XIII
4) Doom 3
5) TF2

Farcry just looks like a video game based on rambo.... really gungho and little tactical ability or skill required. it does look bloody nice though.

Kam
 
No FarCry's AI seems amazing and as doz the game & Graphics. Also, how can it be run and gun when the maps are HUGE?

XIII doznt interest me @ all since its comic.

TF2 stands for what?
 
Team Fortress 2.

XIII doesnt intrest me either if its that one i played on the xbox.

Im looking forward to HL2 and Stalker a lot. Doom not so much.
 
Best Visuals: Half-Life 2
Best Physics: Half-Life 2
Largest Environments: S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Oblivion Lost
Highest-Poly Environments: Half-Life 2
Best AI: Half-Life 2
Most Interactive: Half-Life 2

Please note that by "Largest Environments", I mean the game that has the biggest area, start to finish, based on what we know.

The games I'm looking forward to most are:
Half-Life 2
Halo: Combat Evolved
Counter-Strike 2 / CS:CZ
Far Cry
Tribes: Vengeance
 
A stupid question in an impossible comparison. Those games aren't to be compared at all.
(wrong spelling on something?)
 
Originally posted by Anthraxxx
www.crytek.com
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Somehow this game managed to get this far into development without me ever having heard of it. I guess that's what I get for not attending E3 2 years in a row.
Wow! That game looks like it has even better outdoor areas than Stalker hands down. And I didn't imagine that possible!

This shot blows my mind! I've never seen a game before that handled "camera lens/human eye" OVER EXPOSURE like this. WOW!
zoom_to_helicopter.jpg
 
Originally posted by jasonh1234
Somehow this game managed to get this far into development without me ever having heard of it. I guess that's what I get for not attending E3 2 years in a row.
Wow! That game looks like it has even better outdoor areas than Stalker hands down. And I didn't imagine that possible!

This shot blows my mind! I've never seen a game before that handled "camera lens/human eye" OVER EXPOSURE like this. WOW! http://www.crytek.com/images/gallery/xisle/zoom_to_helicopter.jpg
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in one of the farcry previews/videos the guy playing said he was in the hull of a ship and if he shot holes in the sides sunlight would beam through, thats kickass, heh.
 
I do not mean to be rude, but of you people talking about Stalker, do you even know what you are talking about?

Stalker's physics are much more advanced than HL's. Each bullet has realistic physics properties, and some can go through wood, and all have a different trajectory etc. Newell himself said this was not the case in HL.

As for Polygons, Stalker has oogles more. Whether or not this is a good thing, (you are going to have to have a beast of a video card) is not the point.

I am looking foward to both titles, HL2 morso because of HL1 and I know that there are going to be awesome mods. But Stalker is amazing in its own right, and is more 'revolutionary' gameplay wise than HL2 in almost all regards. (AI, physics, graphics...)
 
Looks like the STALKER story is based in the Jack Williamson sci-fi relate "The Dead Spot".
 
Stalker's physics are much more advanced than HL's. Each bullet has realistic physics properties, and some can go through wood, and all have a different trajectory etc. Newell himself said this was not the case in HL.
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Its too hard to compare at the minute. For example the last vid i seen of stalker with ragdoll effects they were pretty crap. The source engine is much better in this department.

They both seem to have decent vehicle physics.

Theres too many unfinished things in stalker and hl2 to make a decent comparison. Itll be hard enough when we have both finished products, never mind when we dont have either :)
 
Originally posted by Kamakazie
STALKER looks to have better textures from what i've seen so far but the gfx and physics in HL2 look more impressive although the textures dont even look half complete in the HL2 demos so we can wait and see.
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HL2 has some nice textures. Because of a cam versions of the e³ videos, the quality is not high. I have seen a picture of the strider scene and it showed the building it blew up. I swear, I could see some displacement mapping in the spaces betwwen bricks and the textures looked rich. That was a picture taken of the plasma!

screen_11.jpg

screen_12.jpg


other pics showing rich textures -
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/img/2003/05/e3_day3/screen_1.jpg
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/img/2003/05/e3_day3/screen_4.jpg
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/img/2003/05/e3_day3/screen_9.jpg
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/img/2003/05/e3_day3/screen_10.jpg
http://www.sharkyextreme.com/img/2003/05/e3_day3/screen_8.jpg
 
Well i gotta say, HL2 looks really good as does Stalker (No argument there) but what i dont get is what u guys are missing about Far Cry. The maps/Water are huge and look amazing. Far Cry enviroments look better than stalker, also AI i think is better than both hl2 and stalker.

The games im looking forward to from earliest arrival to latest.

Hl2
Far Cry
Doom 3
Stalker
Bf:Vietnam
Men of Valor
OF2

Those last 3 are far off but are still good 2 keep an eye on.

Ps. Here are some pics of far cry's enviroment....
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_farcry_general&id=zzzgg
http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/farcry_070103_003.jpg
http://www.crytek.com/screenshots/index.php?sx=xisle&px=enemies_on_grass.jpg
http://www.crytek.com/screenshots/index.php?sx=xisle&px=1245.jpg
http://www.crytek.com/screenshots/index.php?sx=xisle&px=helicopter_near_waterfall.jpg
http://www.crytek.com/screenshots/index.php?sx=xisle&px=Sunset.jpg
http://www.crytek.com/screenshots/index.php?sx=xisle&px=Untitled-22_copy.jpg

lol check some more @
http://www.crytek.com/screenshots/index.php?sx=xisle
 
STALKER is looking pretty fab. Got these pix off gameguru where the GFX 5900 previewer there was going berzerk over the lighting and so forth - click on the thumbs for the larger pix.



That RPG-7 is a work of art really, and the hands are far and away the most realistic I've seen yet.
 
I know HL2 might be just as good but, Oh my God the bricks, and the bathroom tiles. Omfg. So realistic.
 
Those 3 shots above are breathtaking.
some of the shadows look a little jagged but that's just nitpicking.
The hands in #3 are the most realistic looking I think I've ever seen.
 
Yeah, STALKER is the only game I can see ad competition to the HL2. I will buy both without any doubt. But STALKER also comes out in 2004.. so long time to wait.
 
To buy list is definitely Half-Life 2, TF2, and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

Edit: Next Gen games are so nice. The later future is gonna be a bit too realistic for me, lol. I'll actually feel like I'm killing someone.
 
Originally posted by Gojin
The later future is gonna be a bit too realistic for me, lol. I'll actually feel like I'm killing someone.
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That's "The Man's" plan. Subtley training us all to be lethal killing machines.
There are 12 year old girls out there now with more tactical sense than WWII soldiers. Scary huh?
 
There are 12 year old girls out there now with more tactical sense than WWII soldiers. Scary huh?
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LMFAO! Oh how true. Your post kinda reminds me of one storyline of MGS2 (And God knows there were like 50 in the game)
 
Originally posted by TheWart
I do not mean to be rude, but of you people talking about Stalker, do you even know what you are talking about?

Stalker's physics are much more advanced than HL's. Each bullet has realistic physics properties, and some can go through wood, and all have a different trajectory etc. Newell himself said this was not the case in HL.

As for Polygons, Stalker has oogles more. Whether or not this is a good thing, (you are going to have to have a beast of a video card) is not the point.

I am looking foward to both titles, HL2 morso because of HL1 and I know that there are going to be awesome mods. But Stalker is amazing in its own right, and is more 'revolutionary' gameplay wise than HL2 in almost all regards. (AI, physics, graphics...)
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1. Stalkers physics are designed to simulate ballistics, not the enviornment, or objects in the enviornment. HL2 is designed so you can interact with everything in the enviornment...tables, chairs, cars, windows, posts...whatever it is, and each will simulatedly act accordingly to it's real life notions.

2. Stalkers graphics are not nearly as good looking as HL2's, the guns look no better than counter-strike, and the enviornment is subpar compared to HL2's outdoor areas. However, Far Cry beats both titles in terms of outdoor areas.
 
Originally posted by guinny
1. Stalkers physics are designed to simulate ballistics, not the enviornment, or objects in the enviornment.

2. Stalkers graphics are not nearly as good looking as HL2's, the guns look no better than counter-strike
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1. WRONG!

2. Pass the bong dude.
 
2. Stalkers graphics are not nearly as good looking as HL2's, the guns look no better than counter-strike, and the enviornment is subpar compared to HL2's outdoor areas. However, Far Cry beats both titles in terms of outdoor areas.
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Are you smoking crack?

Stalkers graphics are pretty much equal to Half-Life 2 period, and both of them have small advantages over the other (STALKER has better hands, Half-Life 2 has a much more advanced facial system), and what the fsck are you saying when you say Stalker's weapons look no better than CS? The weapons in STALKER have a polycount at least 3 times higher than any weapon in CS, and they have way better textures.

STALKER's enviorment is not "subpar" to HL2, they look equal to me (and we haven't even seen HL2's plantlife yet).

Ok, and as for #1, heh...ok never mind, I'll just join the club. *passes the bong*
 
[EDIT] Shit I accidently double posted. :cheese:
 
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