HL2 - New species of headcrab

[Darkside55]

There's no ridge on the gonarch's back...probably just in concept art (where did you see this art?). It's smooth and rounded on the top, and it has a blowhole where it's spitting the white radioactive gunk out from at you.
Brian, you just got the pak explorer program, right? There's another program called the HL Model Viewer that will allow you to look at all those .mdl files in the pak0.pak. You can turn them around and rotate them, zoom in and out, check out wireframes, etc.

Mecha, a headcrab taking over a hivehand would be...strange. Would it make zombie thornets?

And argh, these new screenshots with the corpse-crab bother me. I just don't think that they should be able to reanimate a dead person's body. Seems too "out-there." Also...did anyone notice that there are two of these zombies in the cemetary picture? There's the main one, and one at the far right of the picture, under the tree limb.

http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/492/492830/img_2101790.html

 

[Sulkdodds]

Ooh-er. That looks more like They Hunger than anything else...

I honestly can't imagine the Gonarch being a product of any kind of zombie, gonome, basic or any higher stage. I still think there was originally only one, but maybe somoen cloned another one...or maybe the headcrabs have somehow eveolved to reproduce by other means.

If a headcrab latched onto a bullsquid, wouldn't it be on it's back, where I imagine the closest thign a bullsquid has to a brain is located? I'd certainly like to see alien zombies...

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Bunny crabs eh?...I dread to think what a bunny might do if attached to my head, considering the reputation of rabbits that is.

 

[Darkside55]

If a headcrab latched onto a bullsquid, wouldn't it be on it's back, where I imagine the closest thign a bullsquid has to a brain is located? I'd certainly like to see alien zombies...

Yes. That's what I always pictured. A headcrab atop a bullsquid's "head," right above its eyes. Sometime I'll have to draw a diagram of it, hehe.

Farrowlesparrow, if that happened, here's hoping that you'd be dead once the bunny crab latched on, before you noticed any...unpleasantness. :cheers:

 

[AzzMan]

I'm not sure if a headcrab could zombify a bullsquid, how would it latch on? I thought the headcrabs had to enguld the head of their prey. Besides the bullsquids always kicked the headcrabs asses when they saw em. I think an alien zombie would be cool though (vortigaunts). Would make sense, since theyre both from the same place and a vorti's head is about the size of ours.

 

[Darkside55]

They don't always have to. That little bundle of wires they keep inside their bodies just needs to slice into their prey and attach to the host's nervous system.
When you look at the underside of a headcrab in HL, the front of it has some teeth on a little membrane, and then there are a bunch of nerves and muscles inside the creature that you can see. I'm assuming the teeth are only to hold a grip onto their host, while the wires unfurl from inside the headcrab, and they probably have needle-points that all them to pierce through the victim's body, stab into the nervous system, and feed the host commands. So all the HC would need is a nervous system to latch onto.

Plus, their front claws have been shown, in concept art, to be able to hook deep into a host's skin and latch on that way, without needing to be on top of its head.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

They don't always have to. That little bundle of wires they keep inside their bodies just needs to slice into their prey and attach to the host's nervous system.

yeah, I also think the wire thing is how it works. That's probably how those corpse zombies can move too. They have chunks of flesh around their limb joints which the wires could stick into.

Also, there is the possibility that the wires act as muscles too, replacing the ones that decayed.

The new corpse zombies also seem to be controlled by a larger, more yellow crab, which could have very different abilities than the ones in HL1.

 

[Flyingdebris]

I honestly can't imagine the Gonarch being a product of any kind of zombie, gonome, basic or any higher stage. I still think there was originally only one, but maybe somoen cloned another one...or maybe the headcrabs have somehow eveolved to reproduce by other means.

I can't imagine a butterfly being the product of any kind of fat rubbey grub thingy

headcrab + human = human with a chest mouth, and claw hands

Headcrab human + time = more alien tissue and acidic blob throwing action

?

Gonarch = baby laying action, firing acidic blobs, and shaped roughly like a really big armored headcrab with 1 big testacle


So from what i can see headcrabs start to be able to produce acid and start to radically alter the body shape of their host. There's no reason why it couldn't become a gonarch.

 

[Brian Damage]

It's kinda funny, isn't it? The shape of the Gonarch, coupled with its name, gives rise to some really wierd mental images...

 

[Brian Damage]

There's no ridge on the gonarch's back...probably just in concept art (where did you see this art?). It's smooth and rounded on the top, and it has a blowhole where it's spitting the white radioactive gunk out from at you.
Brian, you just got the pak explorer program, right? There's another program called the HL Model Viewer that will allow you to look at all those .mdl files in the pak0.pak. You can turn them around and rotate them, zoom in and out, check out wireframes, etc.

Mecha, a headcrab taking over a hivehand would be...strange. Would it make zombie thornets?

And argh, these new screenshots with the corpse-crab bother me. I just don't think that they should be able to reanimate a dead person's body. Seems too "out-there." Also...did anyone notice that there are two of these zombies in the cemetary picture? There's the main one, and one at the far right of the picture, under the tree limb.

http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/492/492830/img_2101790.html

I've got the concepts in a games design book.

And that corpse-zombie... as I've said elsewhere, I think it's just a stop-gap measure for the crab, until it can find a living host...

Some bodily cells remain viable for quite a while after death...

 

[bigun]

the language in the early US...it was close to being Greek but English wpon the vote in the end. but not a lot of people know that....

look at your buildings, your system of government - democracy, your culture...all greco-roman western.

 

[Brian Damage]

Greco-roman-western headcrabs!

Sorry, I was miles away...

 

[bigun]

Originally Posted by Tadashi
Just because German lost the vote against English in the early U.S.

yeahyeahyeah

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Um, wtf is with the sudden germany comments?

Anywho, one thing that kinda bugs me is that many folks are calling the thing latched onto this new zombie just the same old headcrab as in HL1.
I'm very certain that it's a new type of crab (which I have termed the Deadcrab ).

Anywho, the corpse model could use some polish, and a lot more meat on the bones, but I find it to be believeable enough.
It could have just been a skeleton, with no muscle at all.
The chunks near the joints are good enough for me, although more plausible musculature would be nice.
I'd bet that these guys will be considerably weak, gibbing in only a few hits.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Jittering G-man, it's a deadcrab!

Dinnadinnadinnadinna deadcrab!

 

[Darkside55]

Sounds like a job for the Mystery Machine gang!

 

[Rebel X]

Dropship and headcrab are 2 extremely EXTREMELY different things.

I sure as hell wouldn't want the dropship trying to land on my head.

LMAO!!!!! :E :E :E :cheers: