Polygonal Boundary or Texture or something problem

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TAz69x

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I've had this problem ever since I began playing Half-Life 2 since it first came out. For some reason, with almost every object in the game, there seem to be some cases when strange polygonal triangles or boundaries jump off of them (the objects) around the edges, and blink, flicker (in shape and size) and stretch out in a weird looking way. I've included some screenshots as it's somewhat difficult to describe, but simple to recognize. As well as this problem (related to it I think), a lot of the background level textures (wall, floor, and ceiling textures a little bit away in draw distance) in the game will flicker and turn white or occasionallly disappear in the background while moving through a level, only for a few seconds, then will go normal as I change perspectives around them, and a new set of textures in the distance will flicker. This happened with a few textures close to view instead of far in the level with the train tracks after the ravenzombie beared-guy level a few days ago, where you come out of the tunnel with that white light ahead, but it doesn't usually happen so close distance-wise. There seems to be no real reason that I can come up with yet why this happens. I noticed one time that while I was looking at a female NPC, she looked fine when I looked at her in the dark, but when I shone my flashlight on her, the polygonal "jumping and stretching and flickering" began, then when I turned my flashlight back off, it stopped again, she went back to normal. I've included a screenshot of this incident below. So I thought maybe there's a connection between the lighting in the world and this strange polygonal jumping. Since the flashing and flickering of the objects looks a lot like the background flickering to me, I thought that they might be related. I've updated all of my video card drivers to the latest, as well as testing many others, then returning to the latest after a full reinstallation of my video card, as well as fully patching HL2, and the latest version of Directx9. I've included some screenshots below of all of the issues, hopefully they help.

My system is:
Dell 9800 Desktop
P4 2.0Ghz
256mb RAM
GeForce 4 Ti4600 128mb
SB Live! Value
Windows XP Home

I've tried testing EVERY different video setting config combo possible in the video settings, but all result in the same, uh, result. The game runs fine, fast and good, even with all video settings on full, but it looks so stupid with this issue. It's not blatantly around ALL the time on EVERY object, but pops up quite frequently anyway on a lot of objects to be quite annoying and has never allowed the world to look at all real. I tried that mat_forcetexturesintohardware 1 and 0 (1 and 0 separately) thing, but that had no effect on this issue. It may only be on moving objects now that I think of it (shooting guys, flying bots, npc's, etc.), as I haven't seen it happen on any things like barrels as far as I can remember, but I may be wrong. I've searched for help on this issue, but have found none. Currently I am running all settings on HIGH, and the game runs smooth and loads pretty quickly, but it just looks stupid.


Screenshots:


Pics 1 - 9: flickering polygonal boundary issue
Pics 10 - 15: you may have to save the pictures and view them in the Windows XP picture viewer with the arrow buttons to view the pictures in a sort of motion-picture type style, the background flickers white around there if you can see it
Pics 16 - 27: notice that when I shine my flashlight on my sister who became a hooker here, she begins to transform into a sketchy hulk, as she's become nocturnal, living in the back of vans at night time... but seriously, this is the sequence where if I shine my flashlight on this female NPC, she goes from looking fine in the dark, to having a bunch of weird polygons start jumping and flickering wildly in the flashlight's light, then going back to being normal when I shut the flashlight back off
Pics 28 - 29: another background-flickering/transparency/white issue, notice how it's close up in these two photos as opposed to being in the far background in the ravenhome ones in pics 10 - 15
Pics 30+: two shots of the guy from ravenhome with the polygonal boundary stretching/flickering thing

Anyway, I was wondering how I can possibly fix/resolve this issue. It's been with me forever, and there must be a way to fix it without having to buy any new hardware. I have no money for any new video cards or anything, so I really hope there's somebody talented enough out there to fix this issue without having to buy anything new. Thanks.

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Artifacting occurs when your video card starts to age.

Guess you'll just have to upgrade, eh :p
 
lol, that must be impossible! I JUST recently lost my old Geforce3Ti500 card due to a fan error where it overheated some of the card enough to fry it. So I purchased a Geforce4Ti4600 128mb card a few weeks ago which I was able to get for a couple hundred bucks, which was the most I could afford for now. It'd brand new! That's why when I had considered it to be a video card issue, I was a little skeptical. But if that is the case, is there any way at all to fix it without having to buy a new video card?
 
TAz69x said:
So I purchased a Geforce4Ti4600 128mb card a few weeks ago which I was able to get for a couple hundred bucks, which was the most I could afford for now.

You bought a Ti4600 for $200?
 
You could've bought like a 6800 or X850 for that price. The GF4 Ti series aren't DX9 compliant so that makes it even more of a rip off. That's if you did pay that amount.

About your problem, I've only noticed graphics corruption when I attempt to overclock or the memory has gone bad. Maybe a reinstall or different driver version will fix it also.
 
lol, that was a typo, I thought I had typed $20. It was a warranty deal from DELL for giving me a shabby card. I thought getting a 128mb video card for $20 (Canadian) without even having to send back my old 64mb video card was a pretty good deal, although now I'm wondering how good this piece of crap really is, :cheers: , lol. Maybe they were trying to pawn off crappy old equipment to me. Anyways, so there's little I can do to fix it? Perhaps an overclocking program I can d/l that can actually reduce my card's cpu speed? Maybe that'll keep it cool enough to keep it from artifacting :thumbs: . (Please give me your advice about this o/c suggestion, whether or not it might work at all, or any possible alternatives/programs to d/l that may work or be better). Dammit these smiley's are unavoidable :E ! As for the drivers, any particular set of drivers that you could recommend for my GeForce4 Ti4600 128mb video card? I'm using the latest Forceware, which aren't great. I noticed that when I play HL2, in the video settings, it has the "Hardware: Directx9" option thingy faded out (which I assumes means that it's unselectable and unusable/unused), and the "Software: Directx8" thing in normal black letters, which I assumed meant that my card might not be being used at all by HL2 itself, perhaps because it's out of date with Directx9? It's a little weird, because when I played the leak, it looked and worked absolutely great! And that was still with my old Geforce3 Ti500 64mb card, and the graphics were all set to full, at least as full as the graphics could get for that early alpha version, which on some levels had the full graphics equal to some of the levels on the version I purchased now. Any other helpful tips or anything else you can give me beside the aforementioned stuff above? Drivers, programs, actual physical tweaking of the hardware, command-line options, windows options, patches, condoms, video options, etc.? Thx.:sniper: :monkee: :angel: ;( :LOL:
 
For the person who said Gf4ti wasn't DX9 Compatible is retarded, I have a 4200 and it works great, meh.

Go sell your card, and buy a better one.

Don't live with my pain.
 
TAz69x said:
It's a little weird, because when I played the leak, it looked and worked absolutely great!
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Do not talk about the 'beta' .

Furthermore, you should buy your self a (second-hand) 9XXX (go for the 9600 and 9800, stay very far away from the 9700 or anything below 9600) from ATi or a nice 6XXX (Stay away from the cheap manufactors) from nVidia.
 
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