PS 3 to be $612 to $734

phantomdesign · Apr 6, 2006

From my latest calculations, I can build a kick-*** computer from nothing for about $450 - which would play all the latest games like a dream. This would all be hardware that was top-of-the-line 4-6 months ago.

Warbie · Apr 6, 2006

It'd already be struggling with recent games, and games released over the next year of two will be a slideshow. A console will last a good 4-5 years, with the best games coming out 2-3 years in it's life span.

Direwolf · Apr 6, 2006

phantomdesign said:
From my latest calculations, I can build a kick-*** computer from nothing for about $450 - which would play all the latest games like a dream. This would all be hardware that was top-of-the-line 4-6 months ago.

...I've built a whole bunch of gaming rigs in my time, and I've never seen anything to suggest you can really get away with doing it that cheaply. Unless our definition of top-of-the-line is different.

ríomhaire · Apr 6, 2006

Direwolf said:
...I've built a whole bunch of gaming rigs in my time, and I've never seen anything to suggest you can really get away with doing it that cheaply. Unless our definition of top-of-the-line is different.

...

torso boy · Apr 6, 2006

Good translation of the conversation:

Georges Fornay : "You will have a 60 GB harddisk in the machine"
(...)

Journalist: "Players are asking for the console price, we see figures that regularly appear on the Net, $500 according to the rumour. Are we close to the reality or are we getting farther away ?"

Georges Fornay : "Well, listen, if we take in to account BluRay, HD, we see BluRay player's retailing at 1000 euros or more, it (the PS3) will be extremely cheap when compared to this aspect ; and when we look at the game aspect, it is true that today consoles are generally well below 500 euros, I would say that we will be in this price range, it will be costly for a game console and extremely cheap when we look at the technologies it will integrate"

And the comment about a ~$450 dollar "Kick-ass" pc: Sure It will be top of the line, but only for games that were released before it, It would be a low/mid range PC within a month. You can't get a high end PC that will last for more than a year for under $1000.

And remember, PS3 is a big step up from what you could do with previous consoles; not only is it a media/game player, but Sony is including linux on the hard drive and is supporting homebrew apps/games.

smwScott · Apr 6, 2006

If I had to guess, the system will be $500 here in the US. But there's really no point in all this, just reserve judgement until they officially announce the price.

And this is a bit off topic, but am I the only one who thinks piracy is going to be rampant on the PS3? I mean with the PSP it's already fairly easy just because it has access to a large amount of space, and the PS2 even has HDLoader. With the PS3 there's 60GB worth of ISO space and Linux ... people will be able to do anything. I'm sure they'll try and combat it with patches like with the PSP but if they allow use of Linux right out of the box ... doesn't seem like they can really stop it.

Gray Fox · Apr 6, 2006

I don't know, the ps3 uses some kind of new protection thats one of the reasons why it has been delayed, it's going to be a bitch trying to play backups or pirated games on that thing. Plus it's going to take years before affordable BR players are availible that can actually burn properly.

Combine Hybrid · Apr 6, 2006

If sony thinks I'm an idiot enough to buy their 700 bucks console, they can shove ps3 up their ass.

ríomhaire · Apr 6, 2006

Grey Fox said:
I don't know, the ps3 uses some kind of new protection thats one of the reasons why it has been delayed, it's going to be a bitch trying to play backups or pirated games on that thing. Plus it's going to take years before affordable BR players are availible that can actually burn properly.

Just like how Steam wiped out pirates for HL2.

Gray Fox · Apr 6, 2006

That one protection sheme did not work does not mean that another one will not work, look at starforce. everyone said trackmania: sunrise, PoP:two trones would be hacked as easy as any game and yet still there is no crack, or image or virtual drive with which you can play a backup or pirated version without having to physically unplug your IDE drives. The new anti-pirating measures taken are becomming smarter and smarter and more invasive, and more importantly they work better and better.

VirusType2 · Apr 6, 2006

Funny how for the entire year that I've been hearing speculation about the final price for the PS3, everyone concludes the price will be less than what even Sony is admitting it will be.

At least the Xbox360 has the ability to be connected to a PC monitor in High Def, unlike the Sony Blu Ray which uses HDCP to prohibit connection with a PC monitor.

I wouldn't buy this system unless it was $250 and had a shit load of good games available for $55 or less. I Not only do I not need a Blu Ray player, will not use a Blu Ray player, I don't even want one. I wouldn't pay more than this for any game console unless we are talking much further down the road and inflation has made this amount of money more on the level of previous console generations. I realize the PS3 has more features that make it more expensive. Thats just it, I want a game system, not an all-in-one media player.

It's really nothing more than an attempt to monopolize the media market by hoping to make EVERY single media company to be forced to buy through Sony.

Sorry, but that is like Macintosh - expensive! Especially in the beginning. I don't see how Blu Ray will be the main hardware type, just like a Mac cannot hardly compete in the market share compared to the PC.

I'd rather go with HD-DVD where the technology can be bought from generic hardware manufacturers for much lower prices.

But I digress, I can only thank Sony for they will be making competition for HD-DVD, putting HD-DVD in a price war to make HD-DVD affordable for all.

OCybrManO · Apr 6, 2006

VirusType2 said:
Funny how for the entire year that I've been hearing speculation about the final price for the PS3, everyone concludes the price will be less than what even Sony is admitting it will be, and that no one seems to notice that you will likely pay an extra $100 for the hard drive. So even if it turns out to "only" be $500 for the basic equivalent of a $300 X360, you will still pay $600 compared to the x360's $400 current price.

Well, if you've been keeping up with the information... you'd probably know that Sony won't be doing a stripped-down "core" (crap) version of the PS3. That forces developers to choose between using the hard drive or having a wider market. The HDD is standard feature of the PS3. So, whatever price they're giving already includes the HDD.

VirusType2 · Apr 6, 2006

OCybrManO said:
Well, if you've been keeping up with the information... you'd probably know that Sony won't be doing a stripped-down "core" (crap) version of the PS3. That forces developers to choose between using the hard drive or having a wider market. The HDD is standard feature of the PS3. So, whatever price they're giving already includes the HDD.

Ok I stand corrected. PS3 has a built in hard drive then? Very good, i retract my statement about the hard drive jumping the price another $100 bucks. I edited my post to fix that false bit.

sorry for the misinformation.

VictimOfScience · Apr 6, 2006

Well, industry speculation has proved too high recently when talking about new hardware with unconfirmed pricepoints. The PSP was considerably less than everyone thought it would be (still too high for me though), so I would not be surprised to see people throwing high figures around and have the reality undercut them. I still say that it will be $499, but we'll see what happens.

VirusType2 · Apr 6, 2006

VictimOfScience said:
Well, industry speculation has proved too high recently when talking about new hardware with unconfirmed pricepoints. The PSP was considerably less than everyone thought it would be (still too high for me though), so I would not be surprised to see people throwing high figures around and have the reality undercut them. I still say that it will be $499, but we'll see what happens.

I think the PS2 was $499 US when it came out and I was like OMGWTF are you insane? But you can see that it's not $499 anymore, but I am one of the few that found the PS2 to be very disappointing after having so much fun with my SEGA Dreamcast that met an ill fate.

Direwolf · Apr 6, 2006

Haha...as far as I know the PS2 started at $300...and that got me annoyed since it was way beyond the usual $200 from the last generation.
Edit: Yep, just checked it. $299.99

And Starforce may prevent some piracy, but its the devil. They prevent pirates as well as thousands of legitimate users.

Gray Fox · Apr 6, 2006

In holland the ps2 cost 600,- euro's troughout it's first year. That is not a joke or an exageration.

VictimOfScience · Apr 7, 2006

Yeah, Direwolf is right. It was only $299 when it came out. I got one the very day it came out actually and have yet to be disappointed with it--quite the contrary. Lately, the PS2 has been unbeatable as far as I am concerned (for consoles at least). With games like God of War and Dragon Quest 8 and Shadow of the Colossus and with Okami and Rogue Galaxy coming later this year, its really been doing well imho.

The PS3 is getting much of the same developer support, so I am really watching it because, as we all know, its all about the games!

Loke · Apr 7, 2006

VictimOfScience said:
I got one the very day it came out actually...

Same here, I still remember that day so well.

My first ever game to try out on the PS2 was a demo of SSX (I got blessed

), you got this demo disc containing SSX, Fifa 2001 and Wild Wild Racing plus a bunch of videos from various games and a tech-demo (very cool) that you could test.

I hope PS3 ships with a demo disc too, hopefully a demo on Motorstorm or Resistance. :cheese:

VirusType2 · Apr 7, 2006

Hmm, sorry it was the Playstation 1? This is my only memory of it being $500:

I am at the mall and go into the store and they have Wipeout playing on a demo console. Whether it was $500, or maybe it was some bundle, I don't remember, I just remember being disgruntled and walking off thinking thats a ****ing rip-off. Hey thats funny, thats the same thing I'm thinking about the PS3. :x Or any console over $300.

If they want to really sell hardware, instead of including those media features, they should have included something to blow me or tickle my **** while I play.

dream431ca · Apr 7, 2006

I still won't believe any prices until I see it on the shelf. The PS2 was $749 (Canadian), so I expect it to be in the same range....I hope.

Cole · Apr 7, 2006

"He summarised by saying that PS3 would be expensive when one looked at the current price of a video games machine, at far below 500 Euros, but extremely good value when looking at the BD and HD technology inside," he concluded."
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=30851

Read all about it! Sony Denies price!

VictimOfScience · Apr 7, 2006

Loke said:
Same here, I still remember that day so well.

Hahaha! :cheers:

I got mine on my lunch hour and then all of my co-workers wanted to go out after work and I couldn't say no, so I put it in a big non-descript box and took it to the bar with me. Everyone asked what was in it but I wouldn't tell them--it was all very mysterious. They must have thought I was a little touched in the head...but it was well worth it!

JellyWorld · Apr 7, 2006

I've never owned a console in my whole life. Hurray! And I probably won't until I graduate and get a proper job.

VictimOfScience · Apr 7, 2006

JellyWorld said:
I've never owned a console in my whole life. Hurray! And I probably won't until I graduate and get a proper job.

Wow! No 2600 or NES or SNES?? You, my friend, have missed out on a lot of gaming goodness!

Combine Hybrid · Apr 7, 2006

VictimOfScience said:
Wow! No 2600 or NES or SNES?? You, my friend, have missed out on a lot of gaming goodness!

There are those thing call emulators...

Direwolf · Apr 7, 2006

...who was playing an NES or 2600 emulator when the systems came out? I'd doubt it was even possible.

Combine Hybrid · Apr 7, 2006

Direwolf said:
...who was playing an NES or 2600 emulator when the systems came out? I'd doubt it was even possible.

Who said they could play emulators that time? I'm infering that he can still play those good ol' games...

That really isn't a hard trivia...

BRODIEMAN2k4 · Apr 8, 2006

500 EURO PS3 REPORTS "INCORRECT"

Sony debunks claims that its next-gen console will retail for 500 euros, Fornay reports cited as "misunderstanding"

16:55 Yesterday, the internet was alive with reports that Sony Europe vice president George Fornay had revealed its next-gen console, the PlayStation 3, was set to retail in the territory for around 500 euros, or 350 GBP, on a French radio show. Now though, the company has spoken out, claiming that "at no time did he suggest or indicate a specific price point or price range for PS3, and any reports that he did so are incorrect".
Speaking to website GamesIndustry.biz, SCEE corporate communications director Nick Sharples explained that the notion the PS3 was set to hit shelves as a price point between 499 and 599 euros was based on "a mistranslation or misunderstanding of the [radio] discussion, which was actually focused on the relative value of PS3 as a Bluray Disc player."

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