Suit Discussion (You've earned it.... It still fits... Confusion)

[CAUT10N]

Forgive me if there's an old thread on this. Didn't find any.

At the end of HL1 I remember G-Man telling you to keep the suit ... "You've earned it..." or something like that.

Yet one of our first HL2 encounters involves being given "a suit" or maybe even "the suit."

I suppose it's a matter of the quotes in game...

If he says, "your" suit then I want to know how they got it from me.

Am I remembering things incorrectly?

 

[Jus]

Forgive me if there's an old thread on this. Didn't find any.

At the end of HL1 I remember G-Man telling you to keep the suit ... "You've earned it..." or something like that.

Yet one of our first HL2 encounters involves being given "a suit" or maybe even "the suit."

I suppose it's a matter of the quotes in game...

If he says, "your" suit then I want to know how they got it from me.

Am I remembering things incorrectly?

The Gman picking dust / lint of Alex at the end of HL2 shows that he can affect the physical world outside of time. In the time it took for you to flash onto the train in the beginning of the game, he could have stripped you of your suit, threw you in civilian clothing, travelled back to black mesa, left it somewhere for Kleiner to find and made a pot of coffee without you even knowing it.

 

[CAUT10N]

Yeah He could, but why would it make sense for him to undress Gordon, put suit up, etc.. I just wanted to know if I was missing something.

Also wanted to know if anyone else noticed it.

I just need to replay that chaper of HL2 and see if they say "your" suit.

Maybe they said "There's a suit in there"
(you know, like hey, we saved some suits from Mesa)

and then "Oh it still fits" (like you didn't get all fat since you last wore these suits from Mesa)

 

[Jus]

Yeah He could, but why would it make sense for him to undress Gordon, put suit up, etc.. I just wanted to know if I was missing something.

Also wanted to know if anyone else noticed it.

I just need to replay that chaper of HL2 and see if they say "your" suit.

Maybe they said "There's a suit in there"
(you know, like hey, we saved some suits from Mesa)

and then "Oh it still fits" (like you didn't get all fat since you last wore these suits from Mesa)

Yeah, I can't remember exactly either, but I'm pretty sure they use the phrase "your old suit".

 

[Jay9475]

They are two different suits, the one in Half life two is the Mark 5 version, yours was mark 4, and I assume he stripped you of your HEV suit when he put you on a train so that you weren't conspicuous,

-J

 

[CAUT10N]

for some reason, the whole suit paradox was in my brain today at work, hence the post...

heh

 

[NJspeed]

If he put on you the train with the suit, scanners would have immediately recognized you as Gordon Freeman. Thus he had to remove it, knowing that Kleiner had another one for you anyway.

 

[ríomhaire]

It's the same suit Kleiner upgraded it

 

[Dill0n]

kleiner does say how he made upgrades to your suit, if i remember correctly. doesn't he also say something along the lines of "it still fits you like a glove ... well, at least the gloves do"?

 

[Homless Snark]

The Gman picking dust / lint of Alex at the end of HL2 shows that he can affect the physical world outside of time. In the time it took for you to flash onto the train in the beginning of the game, he could have stripped you of your suit, threw you in civilian clothing, travelled back to black mesa, left it somewhere for Kleiner to find and made a pot of coffee without you even knowing it.

well then....why couldn't he just stop time...carry gordon in his arms to breen, and wake gordon up there .

 

[kupocake]

"As for the suit: I think you've earned it".
That line leads me to believe that it's the same suit. Kliener says he's made upgrades to it, hence why it's now a Mark 5 and looks different. The mystery is therefore how it got from the G-Man's posession (Freeman himself is in his Posession; so is the suit) into Kliener's posession. It's either a case of the G-Man simply leaving it somewhere for Kliener to find, or the popular theory that it was delievered to your buddies as part of the G-Man's "Free Man returning Hero" package offer. Clearly they didn't pay for the platinum edition, or else they would have had the long jump module and some complementary mints.

 

[CAUT10N]

that does flesh it out kupoartist....

thanks all

so if gordon is "for the highest bidder"

and gman did want him to be the trigger of the uprising

then predelivery of the suit to the doc works for me

i suppose inserting gordon into the docs lab was too hard so he just dumped you on a train so you could get a little justice before meeting up with doc, barney and hot..er alyx

 

[Jus]

well then....why couldn't he just stop time...carry gordon in his arms to breen, and wake gordon up there .

Because that would make for a crappy sequel?

The reason is because Freeman would be uninformed, confused and not an effective pawn. The Gman isn't just going to tell him what to do and expect him to do it...Gordon is a human being with free will. He had to experience the grip of the combine, naturally side with the resistance and develop a distaste for Breen and the overwatch just as many others had. It only took a few days.

 

[Asknoone]

well then....why couldn't he just stop time...carry gordon in his arms to breen, and wake gordon up there .

Because gman cant stop time