Terraforming of Mars and Venus

Unfortunately none of this stuff matters to me right now. I mean I can say, "Oh, cool..." but on a whole, it doesn't affect me because well, I'll be long dead.

I do wish I was born in the far future instead of now. <sigh>
 
Raziaar said:
Unfortunately none of this stuff matters to me right now. I mean I can say, "Oh, cool..." but on a whole, it doesn't affect me because well, I'll be long dead.

I do wish I was born in the far future instead of now. <sigh>
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If we're lucky, there could be a medical breakthrough in our generation to allow our cells to keep regenerating. Unlikely but possible.
 
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-- We have to defeat the Terra-ists in this War on Terra!
 
Seriously, if we haven't landed on Mars and at the very least established a base or colony on the moon before I die I shall be very, very disappointed in the human race.
 
lol kirov

I could see injectible nanobots that would repair cells within 50 years that would let us live freakishly long. That is if we don't burn up / freeze / whatever happens if we fully break the weather by then. Or run out of power. Or get hit by an asteroid. Or the conjectured novelty singularity. Or a nasty pandemic.

:)

Anyway, Venus?! Maybe by the time we use up Mars. But if we could do that, why not just make a dyson sphere?
 
Raziaar said:
Unfortunately none of this stuff matters to me right now. I mean I can say, "Oh, cool..." but on a whole, it doesn't affect me because well, I'll be long dead.

I do wish I was born in the far future instead of now. <sigh>
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I agree.

Also, with things like Life extension, I tend to take up a pessimistic position. Just remember - a pessimist is never dissapointed.
 
Men are from Mars... it won't ever really be 'inhabitable' per se. I mean sure it can be habitable from a technical standpoint, but it will always be a lack of civilization.

And well, Women are from Venus. Even if it is habitable, it won't exactly be pretty to look at. I mean, sure it'll be vibrant and full of rich textures and colors, but as a whole it'll be entirely too garish and frilly and nobody would want to live there.
 
Nanobots fail at prolonging life. Geneticists ftw! Go Power-Telomeres!
 
Eejit said:
Nanobots fail at prolonging life. Geneticists ftw! Go Power-Telomeres!
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Geneticists are no good for those of us that are already alive.
I just want a moon colony to start with. I'd live there.
 
dekstar said:
Geneticists are no good for those of us that are already alive.
I just want a moon colony to start with. I'd live there.
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What a terrible existence that'd be at an early stage.
 
Raziaar said:
Men are from Mars... it won't ever really be 'inhabitable' per se. I mean sure it can be habitable from a technical standpoint, but it will always be a lack of civilization.

And well, Women are from Venus. Even if it is habitable, it won't exactly be pretty to look at. I mean, sure it'll be vibrant and full of rich textures and colors, but as a whole it'll be entirely too garish and frilly and nobody would want to live there.
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Which reminds me, before we start we need to get rid of the pessimists and the naysayers.
 
I think a genetic approach to 'immortality' is far closer to our current technologies and science than nanobots.
Though we're still quite a way from either.
 
Unfortunately the terraforming of Mars and Venus will likely remain science fiction and never come to fruition. Both planets lack the internal dynamo effect to provide an adequate magnetic field to provide protection against the solar winds. In the case of Venus this results in too much solar radiation for the planet to become habitable even after a succesful terraform of its atmosphere. Mars however has such a weak magnetic field that its atmosphere has been pretty much 'blown' away by the solar winds to the point that the atmospheric pressure of mars is less than 1% that of ours. Even if we added a 100% pressure oxygen rich atmosphere to the planet the same thing would happen again.

I hate to be the spoilsport... :p
 
[Matt] said:
Unfortunately the terraforming of Mars and Venus will likely remain science fiction and never come to fruition. Both planets lack the internal dynamo effect to provide an adequate magnetic field to provide protection against the solar winds. In the case of Venus this results in too much solar radiation for the planet to become habitable even after a succesful terraform of its atmosphere. Mars however has such a weak magnetic field that its atmosphere has been pretty much 'blown' away by the solar winds to the point that the atmospheric pressure of mars is less than 1% that of ours. Even if we added a 100% pressure oxygen rich atmosphere to the planet the same thing would happen again.

I hate to be the spoilsport... :p
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Yeah, but on Mars it would happen so slowly that we could constantly rebuild the atmosphere as the solar windw took it away.
 
Extending the human life span beyond its natural limits is a stupid, stupid idea.
 
Cheomesh said:
Extending the human life span beyond its natural limits is a stupid, stupid idea.
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Agreed. Governments don't want people to live a substantial period of time for the sake of overpopulation. Besides, we don't want the world to be filled with as many cranky old people as possible.:P TBH though, if I really wanted to, "live longer" I'd prefer to find a way to, "age slower" than to, "live longer" for the sake of the quality of my life.:P
 
Terraforming either planet would take so much time and energy it is not even worth pursuing at this stage.

In a hundred years perhaps, we could begin Terraforming mars. After that, it will take thousands of years to make Mars look even remotely Earth-like.

Venus is so impossibly inhospitable that Terraforming it can be seen as practically impossible with today's technology, or any technology in the near or mid-distant future.
 
The majority of martian terraforming would only take time, not a whole lot of energy. Just engineer the right microbes to up the atmosphere. Then adjust the trajectories of a few icy asteroids to skim the atmosphere and burn up, releasing even more gases.
 
Eejit said:
The majority of martian terraforming would only take time, not a whole lot of energy. Just engineer the right microbes to up the atmosphere. Then adjust the trajectories of a few icy asteroids to skim the atmosphere and burn up, releasing even more gases.
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1) requires the research to make those microbes, and also rockets or colonists to send those microbes to mars. It would cost several hundred billion dollars.

2) requires extreme amounts of energy. Either you detonate precisely the right amounts of nukes in the right places, or you find a way to successfully land several thousand ion thrusters on an asteroid. This would also cost trillions of dollars.
 
Like one planet isn't enough for us. I dunno, I suppose we'd be improving the environment there by making it hospitable, but where would it stop? We've already seen that humans will live pretty much anywhere they can, wherever there's enough food etc, just like any other animal. Once we've seen that we can terraform Mars, will we then move on to Jupiter's moons? I just don't like the idea of every decent sized rock in our solar system being covered in humans. I'm all for terraforming Mars when Earth becomes uninhabitable, but in the meantime I'd rather leave the planets as they are. Come on, you know we'd just **** them up anyway.
 
you know Russia is going to claim Venus because they landed there first, and we are going to claim mars because we probed it first.
 
[Matt] said:
True but its still a monumental task to do so.
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If something terribly bad happened to Earth on a global scale and terraforming mars was humanity's last chance at existence, i could imagine us attempting to do it.

venus, though? i doubt it.
 
Godron said:
Like one planet isn't enough for us. I dunno, I suppose we'd be improving the environment there by making it hospitable, but where would it stop? We've already seen that humans will live pretty much anywhere they can, wherever there's enough food etc, just like any other animal. Once we've seen that we can terraform Mars, will we then move on to Jupiter's moons? I just don't like the idea of every decent sized rock in our solar system being covered in humans. I'm all for terraforming Mars when Earth becomes uninhabitable, but in the meantime I'd rather leave the planets as they are. Come on, you know we'd just **** them up anyway.
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I don't know how you can **** up a rusty desert planet with no atmosphere or a hellish world with daily forecasts of raining sulfphuric acid and 900 degree highs.
 
Godron said:
Like one planet isn't enough for us. I dunno, I suppose we'd be improving the environment there by making it hospitable, but where would it stop? We've already seen that humans will live pretty much anywhere they can, wherever there's enough food etc, just like any other animal. Once we've seen that we can terraform Mars, will we then move on to Jupiter's moons? I just don't like the idea of every decent sized rock in our solar system being covered in humans. I'm all for terraforming Mars when Earth becomes uninhabitable, but in the meantime I'd rather leave the planets as they are. Come on, you know we'd just **** them up anyway.
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I could only imagine the fight between the capitalist, corporate expansionist humans and the conservatist "humans on EARTH, and only" humans in the future.
 
Jerry_111 said:
I could only imagine the fight between the capitalist, corporate expansionist humans and the conservatist "humans on EARTH, and only" humans in the future.
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Wouldn't be much of a fight. Smelly hippies aren't known for their firepower.
 
New from teh future

WAR!
US Declares War on Russian Federation
After Meteorite Impact is Suspected to
be from Venus, Colony of Russia.​

Today, the American Colony of Mars successfully petitioned Congress to declare war on the Russian Federation. A battalion of fighters are on their way to Venus as we speak. It is suspected that it was a planed attack because the US cut off the Russians from the Martian resource trade federation. The US launched an attack from Alaska and the North Pole late this evening. President Jub Bush approves.​

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A Meteorite hits Mars, suspected to be from Russian Venus Colony.
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How likely is this you think.
 
Also just think that because of how the gravitational pull is lower on Mars than here on Earth, humans born there that lived there would grow much taller than us...the entire body would have to change as well, organs, etc..
 
Yeah I guess. So essentially they would truely become Martians.
 
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