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524. Bin Laden's tape and dirty bomb attack on Europe (12/3/07)

Bin Laden used to issue a tape when Bush administration needs help. Or you can view it is the work of misinformation of US intelligence. 11/29/07, Osama let out another one.

The only "achievement" Bush can boast, (or he thinks he can boast for himself) is the "war on terror". Al Qaida is a tool created by US Inside Group to squeeze money and power from people. When they need a war, or pass a "Patriot Act", or for an election, Bin Laden's Al Qaida always came out to help, either by a bombing or by a tape. So was this time.

Bush's population is so low, how can his war party - GOP to win the next election? There is another war plan still needs to be fulfilled. That is war on Iran. Bin Laden must work to support Bush.

1. Bush's Iraq war was supported by Tony Blair. To show he is not alone on his war policy. For the next war, (Iran war) Bush still needs a support from Europe. It is likely he developed some supporters such like France and German. But how can they make people support their new war? Old tactic - terror bombing. That's why Bin Laden's new tape turns on to Europe. The title of news is: "Osama Urges Europe to Stop Helping U.S.". The real meaning of this tape is: "Al Qaida will have a terror attack on you to push you support US".

2. It's strange to see that in this tape Bin Laden said he was the "only one responsible" for the Sept. 11 attacks on New York and Washington - six years after 911 attack.

The background of his confession is that after six years, one third of Americans realize 911 attack was an inside job. And majority of Americans think Government knew 911 attack in advance but let it happen. So government needs a strong defense lawyer. No one can be strong enough than Bin Laden. The Inside Group had push out a "defense witness" - Moussaoui. He cried loudly in court "I am Al Qaida." and admitted he was plotted to attack on 911. Bin Laden is just another Moussaoui. Their purpose are so clear and direct: " Don't doubt on Bush and his administration. I did the terror attack." Isn't that easy and convenient to suppress the suspicion on Inside Group?

Rudy Giuliani is a leading runner of president candidate. He is trumpeted by media as a 911 hero. As a matter of fact, he is a leading role to cover up the truth of 911 attack. The Inside Group needs him to go on the cover up job on a false flag attack. So they need someone to justify that 911 was a real terror attack not an inside work. Bin Laden does it in his new tape.

I wrote "Bin Laden's new tape" on 11/29 when I learned the news.(see above) One day later, another news proved my allegation.

Re: "Britain faces threat of dirty bomb attack at Christmas, Home Secretary warns
30th November 2007

Britain faces an increased threat of a "dirty bomb" attack over the Christmas period, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith warned today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=498488&in_page_id=1770
 
The word of the day is 'evidence'.

Got any evidence?

This is the makings of a great novel. You will make someone rich with this.
 
He doesn't read responses, dude. He stopped doing so some time ago. This latest drivel has been posted at 4 other sites, and counting, since google probably hasn't indexed it all(I just searched for a paragraph from his post).

I've tried getting him to answer if he plays HL2. Can't remember how many times I've asked without getting an answer, but then again, as some guy in an MSN group where Kat posted this said - "Meds, dude, meds. They have worked for me, they can work for you, too."
 
VirusType2 said:
The word of the day is 'evidence'.

Got any evidence?

This is the makings of a great novel. You will make someone rich with this.
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Bin Laden's tape is evidence, British government warning of dirty bomb attack is too. They could be viewed as circumstance evidence.

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526. Beware of a holiday season attack (12/13/07)

When I learned the new Bin Laden tape, I wrote "Bin Laden's new tape". (see #524) Then other news surged which combined with Bin Laden's new tape, could justify a dirty bomb attack in Europe. It may prove my opinion is correct: "But how can they make people support their new war? Old tactic - terror bombing. That's why Bin Laden's new tape turns on Europe. The title of news is: "Osama Urges Europe to Stop Helping U.S.". The real meaning of this tape is: "I'll push you to support US" (by terror attack on you)."

The three events (watch the time of the news date) : 1. Bin Laden's new tape. (11/29)

2. Gang selling enriched Uranium. (11/29) 3. British warns dirty bomb attack. (11/30) if you put them together, could make another perfect 911 story. Do you think they came out coincidentally? Who can manipulate these three events and make their debut at same time? (Bin Laden or Western intelligence?)
Re: Gang arrested trying to sell enriched uranium

Times Online
November 29, 2007

A gang arrested by Slovakian police was trafficking uranium so enriched that it could have been used by terrorists in a dirty bomb, it emerged today.

Two Hungarians and a Ukrainian man were arrested as they tried to sell the uranium last night. The consignment had been tracked by police after it came to their attention inside the former Soviet Union.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2968535.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=2015164

I always said that Feds frames case with the collaboration of Russia and China. In this Christmas and New Years holiday plot, there is no exception. It's interesting that to cover up the secret deal, they use Hungarians and Ukrainian this time. But the source finally leads to Russia. All roads go to Moscow in the end. (or Beijing)

There is a lot of advantage to plot with Russia and China. 1. Even if others get suspicious and want to track, they will kick at an iron wall. These two countries belong to another camp. Litvinenko's case is a sample. 2. It's deceivable. Public won't doubt when Russia and China involve in the case. It's hard to imagine that government work with former enemies.

As for Al Qaida. It is a tool of the US intelligence. I always say so.
 
Oh dear Lord you linked the Daily Mail, Playboy probably has more valuable information.
 
Kathaksung is the editor of the Daily Mail.

I believe that explains everything.
 
Al Qaida works for US intelligence

Because OBL is an asset of CIA. The so said Al Qaida is a puppet tool works for US intelligence. They work to the demand of US intelligence.

Iran doesn't work for US.

When you try to frame a case, how can you make it look like a real one? With the help of your own puppets or with your enemy? It will be much difficult to have a false flag case in Iraq because Iran won't cooperate to frame themselves in. The puppet Al Qaida will do. That's how you saw, the only 911 survived suspect Mousaoui (the only oh god my balls are on fire prepared witness) cried in court: "I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore". But is there anyone here can give us the story how Maosaoui joined the 911 attack? Even though Moussaoui was arrested before 911, at least there was a plan, how he joined the team. But nobody knows. Maossaoui's case was a soap play.

What did Al Qaida do? (the major one which caused public attention)
1. Bombing WTC in 1993. Six people died.
2. Bombing US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzabua in 1999. Though 2 hundred people died, only 12 of them were Americans.
3. Bombing USS Cole in 2000. 17 US sailors died.

None of these was big enough to touch off a war. Because the casualty was small or the target was government.

Then Al Qaida (or its master) changed its tactic. They targetted at people. This strategy change happened after Bush took over the office. Or you can view it as the mastermind of the Al Qaida change its strategy when Bush is in power.

4. 911 attack in 2001. 3 thousand people killed. Most were Americans. (The motive was to give Bush an excuse to start Mid-East war.)
5. Bali bombing in October 2002. 2 hundred people killed. Most were Australians. (Same month when the House passed a bill to authorize President Bush Iraq war power. The motive is to push Australian joining the Iraq war.)
6. Madrid bombing in 2004. 2 hundred seriously get some fvcking water people killed. Most were Spanish. (To push Spanish people supporting an US ally, Aznar, in election.)
7. London bombing in 2005. Killed 52 Britons. (planned to justify coming terror attack in US.)
8. Since 2005, when Al Qaida bombed Iraq Shiite Shrine in Samarra, a civil war started in Iraq. Then we saw many bombings each of which often killed tens to hundred of innocent civilians.

We can see after 2001, Al Qaida mainly targets at innocent people. Why? Because thus people in panic willingly gave up their constitutional rights and and power and money to the ruling class.

All these attackers after 2001 were died. Mostly unnecessary. (The bombers could leave the bomb there and ignit it by remote control.) Why? Because these "suicide bombers" were innocent, they didn't fvck they're peeling off know they were sacrifice in the plot. Many of them might be informants of the government. But that was the best result for mastermind. A witness of their crime eliminated.

It doesn't make sense to bomb innocent people. Even for religious extremest. What could Al Qaida get from killing innocent civilians?
Kill poor people, what for? It only benefits those people who want to provoke hatred and conflict for more war.

The flaw in 911 attack caused many suspicion from people. So i'm gonna fvcking bleed to death this time the Inside Group prepared a big one - nuclear bombing which will caused the damage of the whole city and million's casualty. At the hope that people won't believe government will activate such big attack.

But they will. Because how big the attack is, the loser is always people. And, the government is always the winner - power and money. Don't you see what Bush and his group got after 911?
 
I start to wonder if this guy is just some kind of troll.
 
As I have said, Bin Laden and Al Qaida are the assets of US intelligence. They recruite Islamic fanatics, let them work for the interest of US and Israel. Those Islamic fanatics, unaware of they were cheated, thought they were fighting against US invaders. But they used to die as involunteer "suicide bombers".

Remember, the title of suicide bomber was labelled by media. Like in this news, Al Shayea is labelled as suicider bomber by CNN while he was not. The driver himself never know he was on a death mission. He was only instructed to deliver something to somewhere. That's why the explosion used to take place in market and the victims are innocent civilians.

That's the achievement of Al Qaida high ranking (informant of US intelligence) and its mastermind (US and Israel intelligence). In such "suicide bombings", they wiped out an Islamic fanatic, killed a lot of Muslims, and successfully demonized Muslim.

Read the article, you know the trick. The man never know he is a "suicide bomber".

Quote, "Failed suicide bomber turns on al Qaeda

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- Ahmad al Shayea is the rarest of truck bombers -- he survived his suicide mission in Iraq even though the blast from his bomb was strong enough to kill 12 bystanders.

Al Shayea, who was disfigured during the attack, claims al Qaeda tricked him into becoming a bomber by asking him to deliver a tanker truck, which they had rigged with a bomb."They told me to take it to an address in Baghdad. As soon as I got there the truck exploded," said the native of Saudi Arabia. He survived by jumping out of the truck.

Al Shayea renounced terrorism and returned to Saudi Arabia where he works to convince would-be insurgents and terrorists to give up their deadly ways.

"I think God took me out of death to show others what can happen," he told CNN. "If you join al Qaeda, they will use you, and maybe you will die."

........He was hoping to take up arms against Americans, but said he never envisioned himself as a suicide bomber.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/14/reformed.jihadist/index.html?iref=topnews
 
I don't understand why people don't use their imagination concerning terrorism...
Come on, everybody KNOWS they did let 9/11 happen and that they have employed false flag terrorism during the oklahoma bombing...False flag stuff is everywhere, even in Russia...Okay, that isn't surprising, either, but come on, evidence for scare tactics employed by western governments to create Islamo- and Iranophobia?
You don't require evidence because BLOODY OBVIOUS.
Oh, hold on, Rumsfeld had directives telling his pentagon folks to make "the people aware they are surrounded by enemies".

The function of fascism:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

That is an EXACT description of the means our governments employ. Much of a nice coincidence, isn't it?
 
W4d5Y said:
Come on, everybody KNOWS they did let 9/11 happen and that they have employed false flag terrorism during the oklahoma bombing...False flag stuff is everywhere, even in Russia...Okay, that isn't surprising, either, but come on, evidence for scare tactics employed by western governments to create Islamo- and Iranophobia?
You don't require evidence because BLOODY OBVIOUS.
Oh, hold on, Rumsfeld had directives telling his pentagon folks to make "the people aware they are surrounded by enemies".
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No, not everybody "KNOWS", you just claim everyone does. And the whole thing about Western governments blah blah islamophobia blahblah iranophobia blahblah -

First of all, if the governments did spread "Islamophobia" I'd be proud of them, because the whole idea of "Islamophobia" being a bad thing is bullshit. And "Iranophobia", wow, nice way to trivialize legitimate concerns by lumping critique of Iran in with former labels of shame like "Islamophobia".
 
W4d5Y said:
I don't understand why people don't use their imagination concerning terrorism...
Come on, everybody KNOWS they did let 9/11 happen and that they have employed false flag terrorism during the oklahoma bombing...False flag stuff is everywhere, even in Russia...Okay, that isn't surprising, either, but come on, evidence for scare tactics employed by western governments to create Islamo- and Iranophobia?
You don't require evidence because BLOODY OBVIOUS.
Oh, hold on, Rumsfeld had directives telling his pentagon folks to make "the people aware they are surrounded by enemies".

The function of fascism:

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."

--Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

That is an EXACT description of the means our governments employ. Much of a nice coincidence, isn't it?
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Hey, didn't we go through this last time? Oh yes, we disproved all of your points, then you moved on. And we did so again and again.
 
I firmly believe the towers couldn't have collapsed due to fire (and a plane piercing it!) since the north tower in particular had an odd characteristic in its collapse.
Fema acknowledged that the antenna of the north tower, the first to be hit and the second to collapse, sank by 12 feet before the actual collapse kicked off.

How can this be?
Fema always insisted it was the storey trusses that failed.
The Kean Comission even comitted an actual cover-up about the world trade centers' core collumns. They alleged they were consistent of a "hollow steel shaft" and the exterior walls "bore most of the weight."

Well, maybe now it comes to your mind why the port authority never released the WTC blueprints and why they had to be leaked for anybody to finally get an eye on them.

Fema clings to the truss collapse theory because they know those were the only sections affected by fire and therefore the only ones the could allege to have been destroyed by fire.

But since the antenna failed before the global collapse, this can only be related to a failure of the inner core collumns.
So now suddenly the core collumns received some sort of secondary damage to fall them, which the strike of an airplane couldn't administer.

So what actually burns on the inside of the buildings that could have weakened steel?
Well, not much, actually, unless stairwells, elevators or metal cables or concrete could burn.

NIST concluded the fires had, according to their forensic examination of the steel found on ground zero, which they compared to steel that had been exposed to different temperatures in order to be able to determine what temperatures the WTC steel was affected by by comparing the prepared steel samples with WTC steel, never peaked above 600? celsius, while steel can be weaken at 800? celsius.

What is more, the NIST determined that jet fuel couldn't have played a major role but simply burnt off after a few minutes and that the subsequent office fires only lasted for 20 minutes.

There is a photograph, at which time that had been taken, I do not know, while I also do not know which tower it represents, on which a woman can be seen, standing in the gaping hole left by the plane.
She even touches the steel beams that mark the border of the plane damage.

What does this tell us? My thoughts were that it was ironic that the impact zone was the safest zone from the fires because by that picture we can conclude that the fires already went out in that section and that nothing could occur because there probably couldn't be anything capable of burning at that point since a 180 kubic metres big fireball probably would have served a total incineration of everything inflamable in that area.

NOW!
What surprises me is, that the buildings of course failed in the area assumed to be structurally weakest, which would be around the area of the impact zones.


Point is, if even ordinary office fires weren't available any more in the impact zones and if the cores undoubtedly couldn't supply the fires with inflamable material, then why the hell did the tower (respectively) fail on that floor?

If fires didn't supply the necessary heat to further weaken the structure and a plane intentionally flown into the building at incredible speeds wouldn't fall it straight away, then how the hell did they fail?

If they could survive the initial crash and the fires, then why did they fall one hour and fourty minutes later/half of an hour later?

Concerning the south tower:
It didn't feature an antenna to offer help in determining wether it was the core collumns or the storey trusses that failed, however since the collapse mechanism visually appears to be identical with the north tower collapse, I doubt the reasons could have been any different.

If I imagine a particular storey to fail, it wouldn't necessarily serve a complete global collapse of all the upper floors because that would require the weight-bearing core collumns to be seperated first so the whole section can move freely, with its floors collapsing in unison.
But because that didn't happen with the south tower, just as it never did with the north tower, I believe both towers structurally failed on the level of the core collumns, but since it could not have been caused by anything 'delivered' to them that day, I conclude there must have been other means of bringing them down, like the "secondary devices" that were thoroughly reported on on 9/11.


Additionally: During the south tower's collapse, I think that was, you can actually see the two "pockets of fires" bursting out of the windows in the initial stage of the collapse as air pushes them outwards.


Oh yes, another thing, we don't have to argue the core collumns were much stronger than the exterior walls, but if so, why can we only remember the sight of a single part of the lobby sticking out of the rubble, instead of any of the mighty core collumns?

As if 200000 tons of steel would shred steel beams, but leave weaker structural elements in the lobby unaffected...


Oh yes, another funny thing is that all of the 780000 tons of concrete were pulverized, I have my doubts wether the remaining 200000 tons of steel beams, lacking a common movement vector, offered enough energy and mass to completely eradicate all of the towers' lower sections....

JUST MY THOUGHTS!
I PLEAD GUILTY OF CRITICAL THINKING!!!


Oh yes, I don't think I have to remind you there's a page originating from the official andrews AFB website that had been saved onto an internetarchive sometime in april 2001, in which the page explicitely stated that Andrews was responsible for air defense of washington dc.
Quite baffeling how Hanjour would fly "loop de loops" over the capitol before slamming into the pentagon, knocking down light poles that weren't even in his way....

It is confirmed by flight recorder data and sperate witness testimony of two workers of the gas station, the name of which I cannot remember and couldn't be bothered about, and two policemen that flight 77 aparently took a different approach path than it has been propagated by the pentagon...This is not reallly interesting as such, the only astonishing thing is that the path is sooo "off-course" that it actually flew far from the area where lightpoles had been smashed, so somebody must have pulled them otherwise...
Yes, I just contradicted 130 eyewitnesses, tadaaaa.

WHAT THIS MEANS I DO NOT KNOW. IT MIGHT BE DISINFORMATION, TO LURE US OFF THE PATH OF TRUTH. BUT IT'S JUST WORTH MENTIONING YOU GUYS AREN'T ALWAYS RIGHT.

Sources? What sources?
I don't fisting care, I know what I know and what I have read. And seen on video, for that matter.
 
Quote, "Al Quaeda is not a terror network

Wayne Madsen

Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence.

"I first heard about Al-Qaida while I was attending the Command and Staff course in Jordan. I was a French officer at that time and the French Armed Forces had close contacts and cooperation with Jordan . . .

"Two of my Jordanian colleagues were experts in computers. They were air defense officers. Using computer science slang, they introduced a series of jokes about students' punishment.

"For example, when one of us was late at the bus stop to leave the Staff College, the two officers used to tell us: 'You'll be noted in 'Q eidat il-Maaloomaat' which meant 'You'll be logged in the information database.' Meaning 'You will receive a warning . . .' If the case was more severe, they would used to talk about 'Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.' Meaning 'the decision database.' It meant 'you will be punished.' For the worst cases they used to speak of logging in 'Al Qaida.'

"In the early 1980s the Islamic Bank for Development, which is located in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, like the Permanent Secretariat of the Islamic Conference Organization, bought a new computerized system to cope with its accounting and communication requirements. At the time the system was more sophisticated than necessary for their actual needs.

"It was decided to use a part of the system's memory to host the Islamic Conference's database. It was possible for the countries attending to access the database by telephone: an Intranet, in modern language. The governments of the member-countries as well as some of their embassies in the world were connected to that network.

"[According to a Pakistani major] the database was divided into two parts, the information file where the participants in the meetings could pick up and send information they needed, and the decision file where the decisions made during the previous sessions were recorded and stored. In Arabic, the files were called, 'Q eidat il-Maaloomaat' and 'Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.' Those two files were kept in one file called in Arabic 'Q eidat ilmu'ti'aat' which is the exact translation of the English word database. But the Arabs commonly used the short word Al Qaida which is the Arabic word for "base."

The military air base of Riyadh, Saudi Arabia is called 'q eidat 'riyadh al 'askariya.' Q eida means "a base" and "Al Qaida" means "the base."

"In the mid-1980s, Al Qaida was a database located in computer and dedicated to the communications of the Islamic Conference's secretariat.

"In the early 1990s, I was a military intelligence officer in the Headquarters of the French Rapid Action Force.

Because of my skills in Arabic my job was also to translate a lot of faxes and letters seized or intercepted by our intelligence services . . . We often got intercepted material sent by Islamic networks operating from the UK or from Belgium.

"These documents contained directions sent to Islamic armed groups in Algeria or in France. The messages quoted the sources of statements to be exploited in the redaction of the tracts or leaflets, or to be introduced in video or tapes to be sent to the media. The most commonly quoted sources were the United Nations, the non-aligned countries, the UNHCR and . . . Al Qaida.

"Al Qaida remained the data base of the Islamic Conference. Not all member countries of the Islamic Conference are 'rogue states' and many Islamic groups could pick up information from the databases.

It was but natural for Osama Bin Laden to be connected to this network. He is a member of an important family in the banking and business world.

"Because of the presence of 'rogue states,' it became easy for terrorist groups to use the email of the database. Hence, the email of Al Qaida was used, with some interface system, providing secrecy, for the families of the mujaheddin to keep links with their children undergoing training in Afghanistan, or in Libya or in the Beqaa valley, Lebanon. Or in action anywhere in the battlefields where the extremists sponsored by all the 'rogue states' used to fight. And the 'rogue states' included Saudi Arabia. When Osama bin Laden was an American agent in Afghanistan, the Al Qaida Intranet was a good communication system through coded or covert messages.

"Al Qaida was neither a terrorist group nor Osama bin Laden's personal property . . . The terrorist actions in Turkey in 2003 were carried out by Turks and the motives were local and not international, unified, or joint. These crimes put the Turkish government in a difficult position vis-a-vis the British and the Israelis. But the attacks certainly intended to 'punish' Prime Minister Erdogan for being a 'toot tepid' Islamic politician.

" . . . In the Third World the general opinion is that the countries using weapons of mass destruction for economic purposes in the service of imperialism are in fact 'rogue states," specially the US and other NATO countries.

" Some Islamic economic lobbies are conducting a war against the 'liberal" economic lobbies. They use local terrorist groups claiming to act on behalf of Al Qaida. On the other hand, national armies invade independent countries under the aegis of the UN Security Council and carry out pre-emptive wars. And the real sponsors of these wars are not governments but the lobbies concealed behind them.

"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the 'TV watcher' to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money."

In yet another example of what happens to those who challenge the system, in December 2001, Maj. Pierre-Henri Bunel was convicted by a secret French military court of passing classified documents that identified potential NATO bombing targets in Serbia to a Serbian agent during the Kosovo war in 1998. Bunel's case was transferred from a civilian court to keep the details of the case classified. Bunel's character witnesses and psychologists notwithstanding, the system "got him" for telling the truth about Al Qaeda and who has actually been behind the terrorist attacks commonly blamed on that group. It is noteworthy that that Yugoslav government, the government with whom Bunel was asserted by the French government to have shared information, claimed that Albanian and Bosnian guerrillas in the Balkans were being backed by elements of "Al Qaeda." We now know that these guerrillas were being backed by money provided by the Bosnian Defense Fund, an entity established as a special fund at Bush-influenced Riggs Bank and directed by Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
 
tl;dr

STUF the two of ya. (me smells a rat. kathaksung is Portalstormzzzz)

Also, teh terrorists admit they attacked us every time one's arrested. LOL.
 
All kathaksung posts are copied from other websites. I'm suprised he isn't banned already.
 
The Monkey said:
All kathaksung posts are copied from other websites. I'm suprised he isn't banned already.
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I know, he's stealing it from my blog.

That's IPR violation right there, but the feds are encouraging it in order to discredit my wacky theories.
 
Al Qaida mission in Iraq - to provoke the conflict between Sunni and Shiite.(10/2/07)

Al Qaida (bear the mission to work for US intelligence) bombed Cole and US embassies in Africa, tried to give US a war excuss in Mid-east. It failed in Clinton's regime. Clinton only approved a missle bombing of Afghanistan. He knew war is an important issue not a toy, couldn't play it too easy. He was punished by Lewinsky scandal and almost be impeached from his seat.

So the inside group changed another president, Bush, who is eagerly to follow up the order of the Inside Group. Al Qaida, once again, attacked on 911. (though I believe the attack was done by the insiders, Al Qaida only took over the responsibility in the name.) Bush started the war in Mid-east, (Afghanistan and Iraq). Al Qaida's mission (to cause a war) was done.

What is Al Qaida's next mission? You know the Road map in Mid-east for the Inside Group is more war. (Iran and Syria) So US troops must stay there until more conquer is done. A peaceful Iraq surely won't justify the occupation of Iraq by US Army. That's why we saw Al Qaida once again take up its second mission - to make a mess in Iraq. Al Qaida bombed Shiite's shirine in Samarra. Its' suicide bomber killed a lot of innocent Iraqi civillians, dozens to hundred died in each bombing. How could Islam shirine and Muslim became the targets of Al Qaida? It doesn't make sense at all. But watch from the side of US intelligence, you know what is it.

They tried to provoke a civil war in Iraq so US troops has an excuse to stay, even to increase the troops there.

The recent situation is a good sample. Bush planned Iran war in early September. The troops he needed for war has been sent to Iraq in June in the name of "surge". The excuse for Iran war is another super 911- a nuclear attack in US on 8/30. That was when a US B-52 "mistakenly carried 6 nuclear missle" flied over states on 8/30. The plot went soured. And Bush pushes out a General to conclude "surge" is necessary in September.

What is Al Qaida's mission, you still are not clear?
 
Al Qaida and real Islam resistence are treated differently.

The real Islam resistence are put to Quantanamo where they are tortured. Like Zhubadah was waterboarded. But he is not Al Qaida.

The hired tool such like Moussaoui, Bin Laden, Al Zarqawi all played a strong role to show that Al Qaida is cruel, inhuman. They aimed at common people, either its Americans or Iraqis. What they have done is to justify Bush's war policy. Any benefit to Islam? None. So Bin Laden can never been eliminated. From time to time he issued a tape when Bush needs it. A false flag that helps a lot to neocon but did nothing good to Muslim. That is Al Qaida. That's why Moussaoui cried in court, "I'm Al Qaida." Because Feds need someone to prove 911 was done by Islamic extremist not government insiders.

Zubaydah, the man CIA used to justify the waterboarding that he confessed in 35 seconds after waterboarding, has a story here.

Zubaydah Denies al-Qaida Link

WASHINGTON (AP) - Abu Zubaydah, accused of being a senior al-Qaida operative, says he has been a U.S enemy since childhood but isn't a member of the terrorist group or an associate of Osama bin Laden.

Zubaydah also told a military hearing in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, that he had been tortured in U.S. custody and confessed to things he did not do, according to a Pentagon transcript released Monday.

Zubaydah said that from 1994 to about 2000 he was a facilitator at guest houses in Pakistan, where he helped Muslims get to Afghanistan's Khalden training camp for "defensive jihad'' - that is to fight against forces that invade Muslim lands anywhere. He then helped send the trained militants on to Bosnia, Chechnya and elsewhere, he said.

"The statement that I was an associate of Osama bin Laden is false,'' Zubaydah is quoted as saying by the transcript of his March 27 hearing. "I'm not his partner and I'm not a member of al-Qaida.''

http://www.libertyforum.org/showfla...view=collapsed&sb=6&o=21&part=1#Post295965365
 
Where the hell are the mods on this? How is he not banned yet?
 
Well, as awesome as a bucket of crabs in the Kamchatkan heat. Kamchatka is cold, so there's no way they're awesome.
 
Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush need excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there is no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appears to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, work as a whip on people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government.
 
kathaksung said:
Al Qaida exists where US intelligence dominates. Al Qaida in US when Bush need excuse to activate Mid-east war. That is 911 attack. Al Qaida is everywhere in Iraq now to bomb innocent civilians when US occupies Iraq. Strange to say, under the Saddam regime, there is no Al Qaida. Al Qaida seems only exist where the regime being controlled by US. So we see no Al qaida in Syria and Iran. But they appears to attack ordinary people when the government either is controlled by US intelligence or supported by US intelligence. That's why you see Al Qaida attacks in US, in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, in Iraq (after it is occupied by US). Because where they are protected by the intelligence, work as a whip on people. When government want money and power, they beat the people with this whip (Al Qaida terror attack) People feel hurt then give up their civil rights and money to the government.
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Are you trying to imply something?
 
Al Qaida works for US intelligence. From time to time they issued a tape to help their master: either in election or when there is a bill to pass.

Quote, "Al Qaeda Tapes: Direct Link To Military Psyops And Donald Rumsfeld
Following the trail for five minutes leads to Pentagon
Steve Watson / Infowars.net | October 5 2006
Related: Surprise Surprise, It's Another Al Qaeda Blockbuster Release <http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/021006video.htm>
Related: Atta's Father Says Video Fake, Credibility of 'Hijackers Tape' Crumbles <http://infowars.net/articles/October2006/031006faketerror.htm>
U.S. Government Caught Red-Handed Releasing Staged Al-Qaeda Videos <http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2006/051006redhanded.htm>

Following on from our three features on the latest dubious Al Qaeda video, We can reveal that further investigation into the origin of Al Qaeda video and tape release leads straight back to US military intelligence and Donald Rumsfeld.

The origin of the latest video, starring Mohammed Atta and flight 93 hijacker Ziad Jarrah, has been swept under the carpet by the mainstream media who bizarrely admit that the government has had the tape since late 2001 but still suggest it is a new release by Al Qaeda.
Interesting also is the fact that in an NBC article <http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15082633/>, they admit that before receiving the "exclusive US analysis" of the London Sunday Times' tape, they had filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the same tape of Atta earlier this year:
"The Sunday Times said it had obtained the video “through a previously tested channel” but gave no further details. NBC News filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the videotapes early this year, but the Pentagon has not yet turned them over. "
This is an open admission that it is the Pentagon that has released this tape and not Al Qaeda. this dovetails with our previous analysis that revealed that the footage has been seen before in a docudrama, the Road to Guantanamo, where it is shown to detainees at camp Delta as an intelligence surveillance tape.

Along with experts on Islamic terrorist groups
<http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/031006Atta.htm> who are baffled by the video and have declared that it has come from a security agency, the very journalist who received the tape also says the source was not Al Qaeda. <http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/October2006/051006Atta.htm>

It is also interesting that this journalist, Yousri Fouda is not only a Sunday Times journalist but also the London Bureau Chief of Al Jazeera. He is the guy who normally breaks all the Al Qaeda tapes anyway, so really the London Times connection is just a smokescreen.
All evidence indicates that the tapes are provided to Fouda and Al Jazeera by As Sahab, the "production company" of Al Qaeda, via a group known as Intelcenter , who also SELL the videos online.

Intelcenter normally have the tapes available for sale as soon as they are released, indeed in the past they have even predicted when they are going to get a tape before it is released <http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/07/new_al_qaeda_ta.html>, as they did with the second London bomber tape on the anniversary of 7/7.

Intel center is run by Ben Venzke, who is an interesting character. A google search <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Venzke%2Bidefense> results in the revelation that he used to be the director of intelligence at a company called IDEFENSE which is a verisign company.

IDEFENSE is a web security company that monitors intelligence from the middle east conflicts and focuses on cyber threats among other things.

It is also heavily populated with long serving ex military intelligence officials.
The Director of Threat intelligence, Jim Melnick, served 16 years in the US army and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and worked in psychological operations. From the IDEFENSE website:

Prior to joining iDefense, Mr. Melnick served with distinction for more than 16 years in the U.S. Army and the Defense Intelligence Agency. During this period, Mr. Melnick served in a variety of roles, including psychological operations, international warning issues with emphasis on foreign affairs and information operations and Russian affairs. He also served in active political/military intelligence roles with an emphasis on foreign affairs. Mr. Melnick is currently a U.S. Army Reserve Colonel with Military Intelligence, assigned to the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Mr. Melnick has been published in numerous military and foreign affairs journals, and has received numerous military and DIA awards. Mr. Melnick has a Master of Arts in National Security and Strategic Studies from the U.S. Naval War College, a Master of Arts in Russian studies from Harvard University, and a Bachelor of Arts with Honors in Political Science from Westminster College.

So here we have a company that by it's own admission has a senior military psy-op intelligence officer who has worked directly for Donald Rumsfeld. As Intelcenter and Ben Venzke are directly connected to IDEFENSE, this puts Rumsfeld 3 small steps away from the Al Qaeda propaganda videos.

http://www.infowars.net/articles/October2006/051006Rumsfeld.htm
 
Lol, there'd be so much new to discover (except earthquake control) if you actually read kathaksung'ss post from time to time.

Dismissing it outright as nonsense is just a way of denial, necessary for your mind to contineously perpetuate the idea of a working society.
 
W4d5Y said:
Dismissing it outright as nonsense is just a way of denial, necessary for your mind to contineously perpetuate the idea of a working society.
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Using big words doesn't make you smart. So stop trying.
 
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