Ok, maybe I read that wrong green1152 and I do apologize if I was misquoting. So Fokkerpro, before he was -FP- LoS, stole renders but now that he is -FP- LoS he is doing on legit work? Ok that is fine. I am just curious why he didn't just admit he was Fokkerpro and apologize for what he had done and promise he is on the straight and narrow now? Instead he insists Fokkerpro "works" for him yet the ICQ # says he is lying. And green1152 I believe you when you say LoS is doing it's own renders but how can you trust what Fokkerpro/-FP- LoS gives you for the project? He might be up to his old tricks and it will hurt LoS's credibility. Someone proved you had a scammer on your team and had proof but yet you defend him instead of saying "shiite, Fokkerpro you are off the team!" If this was my project I wouldn't wait it tainted by him.