Why do people think the G-man can't control time?

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I've read, more than a few times, on this forum that the g-man can not control or alter time. Could someone explain to me why it is such a prominent theory, it seems to me to make perfect sense that g-man can control time, to at least some degree so if anybody could fill me I would appreciate it.
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Why would he? Since there's no proof that he can alter time I don't see any reason to believe in it. He can at the very least alter Gordon's perception of time, and we have evidence for that.
 
While true enough...G-Man halted time, at least to Gordon maybe, when he was stopping Dr. Breen from escaping to the Combine Overworld. He also ended it when Alyx was saved by the Vortigaunts.
 
It's really hard to say. From what we've seen, Valve at least wants us to feel that he's stopping time.
 
kattmat said:
Why would he? Since there's no proof that he can alter time I don't see any reason to believe in it. He can at the very least alter Gordon's perception of time, and we have evidence for that.
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The g-man gives a good 2 minute speech in less than 1 second of time in episode 2, if he was just altering Gordon's perspective than why did the vortigaunts not notice him disappear for that whole time, and why did seemingly no time at all pass since the beginning of the g-man's "heart to heart" and then end??
 
The Gman can't stop time. I'm being pretty assertive there but come on, stop time? That's silly. He exists outside of normal time and space but that doesn't mean he can halt actual time at will. That tears a great big black hole in the plot through which the credibility of the HL storyline quickly falls. The end of HL2 is meant to portray Gman as having absolute control over Gordon. The moment the Fusion reactor detonates you're no longer on the physical plane-you're back in the Gman's influence and control. He simply alters your perception of time.

The singularity collapses supposedly distorts normal time and space, making it easier for him to insert himself into the picture.

I think these are more logical theories than “Gman stops time with his g0d powers”.
 
Samon said:
The singularity collapses supposedly distorts normal time and space, making it easier for him to insert himself into the picture.
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Just like the G-Man appearing when the Vortigaunts imbibe the extract and engage in the Vortessence.
 
Samon said:
The Gman can't stop time. I'm being pretty assertive there but come on, stop time? That's silly. He exists outside of normal time and space but that doesn't mean he can halt actual time at will. That tears a great big black hole in the plot through which the credibility of the HL storyline quickly falls. The end of HL2 is meant to portray Gman as having absolute control over Gordon. The moment the Fusion reactor detonates you're no longer on the physical plane-you're back in the Gman's influence and control. He simply alters your perception of time.

The singularity collapses supposedly distorts normal time and space, making it easier for him to insert himself into the picture.

I think these are more logical theories than ?Gman stops time with his g0d powers?.
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I don't see how pausing time warrants suspension of disbelief, by that same logic i should find the game flawed because Gordon's gravity gun also breaks the laws of physics. I understand that the g-man supposedly has/had complete control over Gordon and it is possible that the G-man merely appears to control time, but aside from the fact that their is no evidence that he can not stop time it leaves too many questions unanswered.
How is it that when the G-man appears to Gordon, he is able to talk for an extended period of time, showing Gordon different events and locations when no time passes from the beginning of the speech till the end? If the answer to that is that he merely is "altering Gordon's perception" then why is that nobody notices Gordon's absence (either physically or mentally is not made clear in the game). Time is not an object its a part of space ,or more so a measurement that humans use to gage well...time. If the G-man truly can only manipulate an individual's perception of time i miss how that is not in and of itself "time control."

I should also mention that I am not trying to infringe on how anyone else interprets the game, I just personally don't see why it is so unreasonable to think that G-man can halt time, in at least some situations.
 
Regular time is not stopped, you're in a place where time is stopped.

See the distinction? :)
 
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

- Sir Arthur C. Clarke
 
Darkside55 said:
Regular time is not stopped, you're in a place where time is stopped.

See the distinction? :)
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How big is that place then? Are Alyx and the Vortigaunts also affected? And shouldn't everything not within that time free place or or stasis continue to age/continue with time?
 
One time I was talking to Sir Clarke and I was like, "You wanna get a bite to eat?"

And he was like, "Yeah, sure." Then all of a sudden he waved his hand and a banquet table appeared with a full roast and three side dishes.

And I was like, "D:"

And he was like, "Technology!"

And then I was like, "Bullshit, you're a witch! WITCH!"

Then they took him away.

How big is that place then? Are Alyx and the Vortigaunts also affected? And shouldn't everything not within that time free place or or stasis continue to age/continue with time?
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It's its own dimension.
 
Wow i can't believe i didn't understand this earlier. Thank you for clarifying, i actually think that does make alot more sense than the g-man controlling time itself. You can close this thread if you want i completely understand now XD.
 
It is not that G-man cannot control time. Time simply cannot be controlled.
 
Who said Gman could control time, he obviously has access to collosal teleportation and stasis technology but hes not the Doctor, he just puts Gordon in stasis and waits for his plan date, until then he sun bathes in his suit
 
There's a massive difference between gravity and time.
 
Just because they are different does not make the analogy flawed.


By the way gravity actually effects time dilation,that is gravity is able to make time slower or faster. They are both mystery forces of nature that we do not know much about... so basically your wrong.
 
My 2 cents

If G-man doesn't have control over time, explain how Gordon re-enters the picture 30 years later without aging? How is it that the others would not notice from the "outside" of this "place" as described by Darkside55. If this "place" (bubble) was excluded from regular time, how would it catch back up again? Crossing between the two would probably end up in some devastating results. It would always be off by that amount. The outside looking in would see some very stange things. God-like powers of G-man I doubt, but command over some very powerful and age old technology, yes. He is most certainly connected with another faction of overseers of some sort. He eludes to that in many of his dialogs.
 
I guess one could describe it as an eddy in time. He is not controlling it, merely manipulating an area where one is not affected.
 
Gordon is placed in another dimension. Half-Life is a game where there are multiple universes (possibly infinite). There are 4 that we know of: Our dimension, Xen's, the combine's home dimension, and where ever The G-Man put Gordon for 10-20 years.
 
LandStander said:
Gordon is placed in another dimension. Half-Life is a game where there are multiple universes (possibly infinite). There are 4 that we know of: Our dimension, Xen's, the combine's home dimension, and where ever The G-Man put Gordon for 10-20 years.
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I guess he was stored in some kind of time anomaly or space-time curvature.

Plus...carbon stars with ancient satellites colonized by sentient fungi. Gas giants inhabited by vast meteorological intelligences. Worlds stretched thin across the membranes where dimensions intersect...
 
Darkside55 said:
One time I was talking to Sir Clarke and I was like, "You wanna get a bite to eat?"

And he was like, "Yeah, sure." Then all of a sudden he waved his hand and a banquet table appeared with a full roast and three side dishes.

And I was like, "D:"

And he was like, "Technology!"

And then I was like, "Bullshit, you're a witch! WITCH!"

Then they took him away.
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:laugh:

Can't believe I missed this.
 
Polaris said:
Plus...carbon stars with ancient satellites colonized by sentient fungi. Gas giants inhabited by vast meteorological intelligences. Worlds stretched thin across the membranes where dimensions intersect...
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That part is awesome. I really wish one of the hl games took place on another planet/dimension/whatever coz theres lots of original ideas to present that way to shock players. Like when we get a glimpse of the combine-controlled world through the huge portal at the end of HL2 or a glimpse of Xen in the random teleport part at the beginning of HL during the resonance cascade (although Xen turned out to be less exciting than it looked, at least for me). But I guess the Arctic'll have to do for Ep3, at least it's a new environment.
 
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