2003 Release date...can anyone verify?

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http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTE5


says the benchmark, not the game. It was this article that, last year, caused me to buy a new ATI card. NV was not up to snuff, and the 6800 was just rumor. I cannot find confirmation, official confirmation, that the GAME was to be relased last year. Maybe i missed something. Can someone clear this up for me?
 
Yeah, it was supposed to be release on Sept. 30 of last year, but the code theft made them delay the game for over a year. Since rebuilding the code would take a long time, they would have to spruce up the game, and add features to meet the quality of games that would be coming out at the time they would get to release it. Supposedly, that is why the game was delayed for more than a year.
 
MetalliMyers said:
Yeah, it was supposed to be release on Sept. 30 of last year, but the code theft supposedly made them delay the game for over a year...
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where's the link? not that i say you don't know the truth, but i need a link to an official source(ie. valve).

I saw shaderday...i saw Gabe with my own eyes say BENCHMARK.
If they then said game, i think valve should have some explaining to do, as the shaderday presentation made it quite clear the game was far from done. If valve reported one thing to one source, and something else to another, i would like to know why.


can ya tell i like conspiracies?

as well, i KNOW that there was a harddrive stolen at E3 2003...but not who's
the hack attempts/success i heard here first.



EDIT: i'll give it a day...if noone can post a link, them most people complaining about the game not being released are making unfounded remarks, and any animosity towards valve is uncalledfor.

MODS: can you verify the release date with an official statement?
 
It's common knowledge they were pushing September 30th last year. Mostly in e-mails and gaming events.

Unless, you're asking for an official statement that they said "September 30th of 2003," in which case, I don't believe they ever clearly stated 2003, and that's why alot of people claim VALVe never said it'd hit in 2003.

It was implied. Anyway, check the VALVe info thread.
 
Shuzer said:
It's common knowledge they were pushing September 30th last year. Mostly in e-mails and gaming events.

Unless, you're asking for an official statement that they said "September 30th of 2003," in which case, I don't believe they ever clearly stated 2003, and that's why alot of people claim VALVe never said it'd hit in 2003.

It was implied. Anyway, check the VALVe info thread.
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Implied...i don't think so. only the benchmark was talked about in the hardware world.
 
cadaveca said:
Implied...i don't think so. only the benchmark was talked about in the hardware world.
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No, they stated September 30th FOR THE GAME 6 days up until the release, then it went quiet. We didn't even get word of a delay. Also, I have the original PC Gamer that broke the HL2 story, and in it, it has an overview of what VALVe plans, and they're saying it's on schedule for a release on September 30th.

I'm not sure what you're asking for. They most definitely did say the GAME was due on the 30th. If you're asking for a quote of "September 30 2003," I can't provide you with one. Because, I myself, don't remember them ever saying 2003. If that's what you're asking for.
 
I first heard about HL2 in PC Gamer (US), and in that article, Gabe Newell was quoted saying something along the lines that HL2 will rleased on September 30, 2003.

I would point out the specific part of the article, but I no longer have the issue. I remember the release date because it floored me how quickly they went from silence to an announced release date.

However, this is pointless because it never made the release date.
 
blahblahblah said:
I first heard about HL2 in PC Gamer (US), and in that article, Gabe Newell was quoted saying something along the lines that HL2 will rleased on September 30, 2003.

I would point out the specific part of the article, but I no longer have the issue. I remember the release date because it floored me how quickly they went from silence to an announced release date.

However, this is pointless because it never made the release date.
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I'll dig up my issue and check if it does indeed say 2003. I know for a fact that it's mentioned in that issue atleast 3 times that it was due out on September 30th.


Edit: On the "Making of Half-Life 2 'special 16-page supplement'," it does indeed say "Release date: September 30, 2003."

Also, inside the magazine, "When is it coming out? Sept. 30, 2003. That's not a misprint: In less than six months, before Doom III and long before Duek Nukem Forever ships, you'll be playing Half-Life 2."

So, there you have it. That was the official date. September 30th, 2003. I was wrong, 2003 was specifically mentioned.

This was the first PC Gamer US issue that broke the initial HL2 story information.
 
so no official link?


c'mon now. that's like me saying MY dates are official....to bad mine are frm last year.


edit: i'm not saying you are wrong, but i'd really like for someone to prove me wrong. Then, when i approach Valve on the issue, i have something to back it up. Some post in a forum just isn't enough.
 
didn't you just make a thread about this? it doesn't make any more sense now, so why bother.
 
epmode said:
didn't you just make a thread about this? it doesn't make any more sense now, so why bother.
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do you have a link to prove me wrong? I have gabe's actual powerpoint presentation.
 
Valve is not hiding HL2 in a CS:S release, if that's where your going with this.
 
cadaveca said:
where's the link? not that i say you don't know the truth, but i need a link to an official source(ie. valve).

I saw shaderday...i saw Gabe with my own eyes say BENCHMARK.
If they then said game, i think valve should have some explaining to do, as the shaderday presentation made it quite clear the game was far from done. If valve reported one thing to one source, and something else to another, i would like to know why.


can ya tell i like conspiracies?

as well, i KNOW that there was a harddrive stolen at E3 2003...but not who's
the hack attempts/success i heard here first.



EDIT: i'll give it a day...if noone can post a link, them most people complaining about the game not being released are making unfounded remarks, and any animosity towards valve is uncalledfor.

MODS: can you verify the release date with an official statement?
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http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/news_6072668.html

Since you are too lazy, there is the link.

Umm, this one too:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/news_6075803.html
 
Why would it be a delay if it didn't have an official release date before the delay? Otherwise it would just be... in progress.. or something...

EDIT: Ment for cadaveca... not you guys ;)
 
Neutrino said:
Valve is not hiding HL2 in a CS:S release, if that's where your going with this.
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not at all.

like i said before , i have his powerpoint, which clearly states that the BENCHMARK was to be released. From my perspective, that does not translate to game, and i think some people may have misunderstood the situation.

For anyone giveing me info, thankyou. You have helped me greatly, and i truly appreciate it.


SHUZER, which edition was that? and who wrote the article?
 
See, the thing about the benchmark release was, we HEARD that it was to be released on the 30th. This sparked many a dozen topics saying "If the benchmark is to be released on the 30th, this must mean HL2 has been delayed!"

I remember those topics very clearly. The 30th date being for the benchmark spelled disaster for HL2's release, and many knew it.

As for the issue, "June 2003 - Volume 10 - Number 6"
The cover is all about HL2. It was the first HL2 issue for any magazine, AFAIK.

And if you MUST know, Chuck Osborn wrote the preview. The same guy we got the exclusive review from.
 
blahblahblah said:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/halflife2/preview_6027872.html

first paragraph

more proof again
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here's the ign link...
VU Games spokespeople today said over the phone that the title would in fact not ship to retail until "Holiday 2003,"
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VuGames, not valve.
i want something that came from valve.


i seem to remember Gabe being a little miffed at shader day about the rumors. They all seem to come from vivendi, not valve. That would make it look like vivendi was the culprit as spreading the info.

remember, before you get defensive, i'm not saying you are wrong..i truly need help compiling info.
 
Why? Why do you think people give Doug Lombardi such a bad name? He was PUSHING September 30th a WEEK before the date. He said "It'll be tight, but we'll make it."
 
I cannot publish something not based on fact. Vivendi and valve have always been at odds, since vivendi took over sierra. Vivendi may have been pressuring valve, and maybe, just maybe, at that time Lombardi was trying to push the rest of valve for the release last year. But i know that DX9b was in the wroks, and not official. does not seem to make much sense to me to publish something that will be outdated in 4 months. HL2 currently resembles an anime in it's graphical quality, and i think that the smoothness is going to be hard to beat. this whole "feeling" is most accurately displayed using DX9 shaders...and the comparison between the binks from last year and now is quite drastic.

i want people's opinion...seems to me that the media overplayed the benchmark as the game.
 
Ok... I'm sorry but I'm really confused now what this thread is about...?? :)

What are you trying to do? Write an essay? Start a discussion about the graphics? Asking what happened to the benchmark? Pondering the relationship between Valve and Vivendi?
 
cadaveca said:
here's the ign link...
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Gabe Newell's emphatic and constant claims at E3 2003 that the highly anticipated Half-Life sequel (we thinks it be Half-Life 2) would release on September 30th 2003 and exactly September 30th...
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Proof from the same link. You are not making any sense. Multiple sources have confirmed that Valve Software stated a release date of September 30.
 
cadaveca said:
i want people's opinion...seems to me that the media overplayed the benchmark as the game.
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No, they didn't. The release date for the game was sept 30. This is a well known fact. No one is questioning this including Valve. Gabe even gave an explanation a while back as to why they missed the release date and said it was just due to poor planning.
 
First off, Sierra wasn't even disbanded as of September 30th 2003. That happened THIS year.

Second, like I said, once we heard that the BENCHMARK was also due out on the 30th, we all got worried. Seeing as how that was supposed to be HL2's release date (and yes, many MANY e-mails proved this, go look through the valve info thread, shouldn't be too hard to find a few), people made many topics "HL2 must be delayed. They wouldn't release the benchmark if they were to release the game!" "The benchmark is being released at the same time so people can judge whether or not it'll run on their systems!" etc etc..

The "media overplaying the benchmark as the game" is a stupid statement; seeing as how, most of the release information was from user e-mails.

Besides, people have given you a few links for confirmation, plus I've ripped direct quotes from PC Gamer's HL2 cover story last year.
 
i would like to know if anyone actually has a link, or something, where valve themselves say the game was to be released sept 30th 2003. In the shaderday presentation, you should have seen the looks that Gabe gave Lombardi.
 
blahblahblah said:
Proof from the same link. You are not making any sense. Multiple sources have confirmed that Valve Software stated a release date of September 30.
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those sources are getting the info from e3 2003 @ the shaderday presentation, where Gabe said BENCHMARK, not game. Lombardi on the other hand...

did any of you read the hardocp article? how, form Gabe's presentation, can you say that the game is going to be released. Weh nthe guests asked when the game was going to be released, Lombardi skirted the question, like he knew something. I personally think the animisity towards lombardi comes from him siding with vivendi.

when vivendi bought out sierra, shuzer, they got the HL2 contract. vivendi disbanding seirra has not even entered the equation. i'm still in september last year.
 
MetalliMyers said:
Yeah, it was supposed to be release on Sept. 30 of last year, but the code theft made them delay the game for over a year. Since rebuilding the code would take a long time, they would have to spruce up the game, and add features to meet the quality of games that would be coming out at the time they would get to release it. Supposedly, that is why the game was delayed for more than a year.
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Why would they have to "rebuild" the code? They would still retain a copy of the original code on many machines at Valve I'm sure. And I believe that they code that was stolen was only part of the complete Source engine.
 
cadaveca said:
when vivendi bought out sierra, shuzer, they got the HL2 contract. vivendi disbanding seirra has not even entered the equation. i'm still in september last year.
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Vivendi has ALWAYS been Sierra's parent company. It's not until recently that Sierra has ceased to exist, and Vivendi simply carries the name of Sierra for notoriety.
 
maybe if your lazy ass actually READ the valve only thread, and read the ENDLESS times GABE NEWELL PERSONALLY tells us sept. 30th over 100x...

...seriously, how are you going to argue with half the people here that were around when it happend. like me.

is this kid for real, what a tard
 
cadaveca why the **** would the stolen build have displayed in the top right corner of the screen "4 days until 9/30/03" if that date meant **** all?

what u trying to say we all imagined a sept 30 2003 release? the game hasnt actually been delayed at all?
 
i still remember how gabe SAID HIMSELF sept 30th not 6 days before they delayed...

infact, why don't you E-MAIL gabe yourself...

IDIOT
 
Wow, someone actually didn't know about September 30th last year... haha... that's funny!
 
your saying "give me proof"

why not ask the big man himself, and then you can cry to your mom after gabe pwnz you.

seriously, it's a landmark event that tore the souls out of gamers all over the communitee.

and you think it never happend... how lazy are you, it's all over!
 
I think, what he's trying to say is, Gabe knew the game wouldn't hit the 30th. But it was Vivendi's date, and Lombardi stuck by it, just because that was the date Vivendi set.

I'm checking through the VALVe info thread to see if Gabe ever did personally say the 30th, so far he's given a few "no comments' to release questions.

Although, I can tell you as much as valve employees DID push the 30th, and that was the official date. Not for the benchmark. That date was set long before the public or press ever heard of a benchmark.

Still looking to see if Gabe ever personally said the 30th, but here's one from Doug:

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showpost.php?p=112632&postcount=244
 
>_< oh the ignorance of some people is unbearable, especially when they think they can open their big mouths without researching first.
 
Sigh....

http://www.homelanfed.com/index.php?id=14716
HomeLAN - Many people have said that though they were impressed by the E3 Half-Life 2 demo they still don't think Valve will make its September 30 release date. Can you give us an update on the game's progress and whether it will indeed make that date?

Gabe Newell - The date's still September 30th.
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Why don't you try looking it up before making these wild theories? Took me like 30 seconds to find on google, and that was just one instance of it. I found a few more too.
 
Ah. There you go, direct from Gabe. Looks like cadaveca's theory has gone down the tubes.
 
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