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How Alyx and Eli Survive the Citadel
Just how did they survive the explosion. Well I think that perhaps its due to Kleiner. While Gordon, Alyx, Barney and the Resistance stormed the Citadel, what was Kliener working on. The teleport technology of course, so maybe he managed to get it up and running and teleported them the hell out of there just after the G-man adducted Gordon.

Just why the citadel is still standing
Well Aftermath is still set in City 17 so it is definately the same citadel, I think that the explosion at the end was contained by some sort of force field or technology to stop the whole city being destroyed ie giving the Combine time to leave, but it damaged the citadel severely so that it is now standing on its side.

How did Gordon get away from the G-Man
Well I think that it is quite obvious that the G-Man isnt the one resposible for allowing Gordon to return to City 17 so soon- due to the fact he seems to want him for other assignments (Xen?) and the voice at the end of trailer while that may not be evidence its possible a sign that something didnt go to plan. I think that maybe Breen survived the Explosion at the end and rescued Gordon possibly with the consent of the Combine, to fight back against the G-Man, but Gordon escapes and gets back to City 17.

Please add you own, or just flame me about talking bs lol.
 
Dowie said:
How Alyx and Eli Survive the Citadel
Just how did they survive the explosion. Well I think that perhaps its due to Kleiner. While Gordon, Alyx, Barney and the Resistance stormed the Citadel, what was Kliener working on. The teleport technology of course, so maybe he managed to get it up and running and teleported them the hell out of there just after the G-man adducted Gordon.

Just why the citadel is still standing
Well Aftermath is still set in City 17 so it is definately the same citadel, I think that the explosion at the end was contained by some sort of force field or technology to stop the whole city being destroyed ie giving the Combine time to leave, but it damaged the citadel severely so that it is now standing on its side.

How did Gordon get away from the G-Man
Well I think that it is quite obvious that the G-Man isnt the one resposible for allowing Gordon to return to City 17 so soon- due to the fact he seems to want him for other assignments (Xen?) and the voice at the end of trailer while that may not be evidence its possible a sign that something didnt go to plan. I think that maybe Breen survived the Explosion at the end and rescued Gordon possibly with the consent of the Combine, to fight back against the G-Man, but Gordon escapes and gets back to City 17.

Please add you own, or just flame me about talking bs lol.
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1. Eli and Mossman weren't that close to the explosion, and Barney and everyone else was on street level. I doubt Kliener was working on teleportation while he was away, Alyx moved him to a safe spot - a day is not enough time to create a working teleporter, let alone find the equipment. Alyx was probably sent flying backwards...I think people take the explosion way to seriously. I doubt it would keep on expanding, it would probably have been sucked inward. Plus, you escape the citadel with Alyx, as seen in numerous screenshots (And you can't just teleport here there and everywhere anyway, especially since the only teleporter near Alyx and co was the Citadel. Which is clearly in no fit state.

2. Again, people take the explosion far to seriously. What matters is you sent the reactor into meltdown, and that gets worse during the course of Aftermath and ultimately, its going to wipe out the entire city. Not the explosion, but the Citadel in meltdown.

3. I don't think its quite obvious. Its possible that one of the new offers he was referring to, is getting everyone out of the city. Your most likely still in the employ of Gman, the voice at the end of trailer could mean anything.

Yes, Breen probably did survive. But I don't think he'd help you survive, since he was at the bottom of the reactor and you were at the tip...I mean, you've done so much damage that Breen may not even consider being allies with you.
 
I don't see anyone denying that? Since its already been confirmed anyway.
 
We will see about that.

DOWIE STOP TALKING BS LOL. RANT RANT FLAME FLAME :flame:

:upstare:
 
What evidence is there that someone can interfere with what the Gman does?

In my opinion, Gman slows down time at the end of HL2 to ensure that Gordon (and possibly Alyx) is kept alive since he constantly proves his worth.
As the Gman says, he has received several offers for Gordon's services and this could be the reason Gordon is sent back abruptly.
 
hi_ted said:
In my opinion, Gman slows down time at the end of HL2 .
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I think he actually slowed down Gordons perception of time, not time itself. Its ridiculous to think he can actually stop time :P
 
I don't think what you saw at the end of HL2 was an "explosion" per se. Because of the nature of dark matter, it might have expanded to a point, stopped, and then reconctracted and IMPLODED upon itself thus creating a singularity that will eventually consume/destroy City 17.
 
I think we should all try to contridict the writer guy, he obviously doesnt know what hes on about. :P
 
SFLUFAN said:
I don't think what you saw at the end of HL2 was an "explosion" per se. Because of the nature of dark matter, it might have expanded to a point, stopped, and then reconctracted and IMPLODED upon itself thus creating a singularity that will eventually consume/destroy City 17.
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That sounds about right.
 
As far as im aware, the citadel provides power to almost all of City 17. no citadel = little power. of course they have generators and the likes, but power will be more scarce in aftermath if the citadel is fkuced
 
SFLUFAN said:
I don't think what you saw at the end of HL2 was an "explosion" per se. Because of the nature of dark matter, it might have expanded to a point, stopped, and then reconctracted and IMPLODED upon itself thus creating a singularity that will eventually consume/destroy City 17.
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I'd say it was an explosion. Someone on the forum before, who was aparently knew a bit about physics, said that the explosion turned red way too fast for it to be a very powerful one.
 
Dowie said:
How Alyx and Eli Survive the Citadel
Just how did they survive the explosion. Well I think that perhaps its due to Kleiner. While Gordon, Alyx, Barney and the Resistance stormed the Citadel, what was Kliener working on. The teleport technology of course, so maybe he managed to get it up and running and teleported them the hell out of there just after the G-man adducted Gordon.

Just why the citadel is still standing
Well Aftermath is still set in City 17 so it is definately the same citadel, I think that the explosion at the end was contained by some sort of force field or technology to stop the whole city being destroyed ie giving the Combine time to leave, but it damaged the citadel severely so that it is now standing on its side.

How did Gordon get away from the G-Man
Well I think that it is quite obvious that the G-Man isnt the one resposible for allowing Gordon to return to City 17 so soon- due to the fact he seems to want him for other assignments (Xen?) and the voice at the end of trailer while that may not be evidence its possible a sign that something didnt go to plan. I think that maybe Breen survived the Explosion at the end and rescued Gordon possibly with the consent of the Combine, to fight back against the G-Man, but Gordon escapes and gets back to City 17.

Please add you own, or just flame me about talking bs lol.
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1. He must have reflexes out of the world then - alyx is standing right besides you when it goes off - unless he teleports her in that very microsecond, she'd be a cloud of atoms. But i don't know anything about Dark Matter energy... It could probably tear reality open, opening a dark hole or something. Guess whatever wierd effect would come, could expand gradually so Alyx and Eli had time to get out of there relatively safe - also makes for a good end of the city... Long count down, where the last minutes show rapid destruction resulting in a fast and total destruction when it finally reaches its end.

2. The citadel survived the seven hour war, and i'm sure that at least one neuclear missile has found its way to it, since every other weapon didnt work - and that didn't do much to it. If the effect is as i stated above, it probably wouldn't fall until the very last - or stay as a dead and broken monument of Gordons victory - would make an excellent playground for the future children population, now that the suppression field will be down. (Yes, read Parrabellum - and i do find a such thing as a suppression field scary as hell...)

3. Concerning Gordon? I don't know... Maybe the effect of the Dark Matter explosion or implosion sucks Gordon out of the stasis G-Man is about to bring him into - would explain G-Mans anger... Something is beyond G-Mans power, whatever great wizard he is. And i don't assume Gordon will feel that bad about it, since very few would find it that ammusing being a puppet in some unknown persons play.

Anyhow, we'll be kickin' ass again... And i hope we'll get out of City 17, seeing how the Combine has scarred the earth, and telling them gently with a shotgun how we feel about it.

Viva le resistance!
 
ríomhaire said:
I'd say it was an explosion. Someone on the forum before, who was aparently knew a bit about physics, said that the explosion turned red way too fast for it to be a very powerful one.
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Don't forget Breen was also trying to teleport, maybe for a brief instance it finally opened and sucked in the brunt of the damage.
 
cquinn said:
I'm pretty sure the Citadels were built after the combine invasion of earth.
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As far as i've read, the citadels came in the shape of cubes who strook earth. They then started growing into what they are in the game - in Raising the Bar it said something about an intro having all this, but it got cancelled. (Where you would see the Citadel come alive, swallowing the city as it grew)

Since striders, gunships etc. is build in the Citadels, i think that the seven hour war first started when they was ready to unleash hell. You gotta remember that the portal storms simply threw Xen lifeforms to earth, and that has nothing to do with any war - however it did mean that cities fell because of headcrabs & the zombies to follow. But that was only the beginning of the end :)

My above post is based on this - that i think the citadels have survived more than any earthly structure could.
 
The citadels were the centre of the Combine invasion, they appeared within an instant and thats where all the forces came from. Clearly, a nuclear missile was not launched into the citadel...otherwise there really wouldn't be that much of City 17 left.
 
Ah yes, of course... Don't know why that fact passed right past me. Lesser bombs could have been used - the crater around the Citadel does not exclude this possibility. (Although that is made by the Citadel itself)

I just think that the material it's built of, is extraordinary resistant - able to withstand the human technology of warfare. Another citadel could have been hit though, and the conclusion that it did nothing else than kill the remaining human population and polute the area was made. Gotta be at least one nuclear missile fired, somewhere in the world... Else it doesn't fit with my idea of alien invasion :p
 
Surrogate said:
Ah yes, of course... Don't know why that fact passed right past me. Lesser bombs could have been used - the crater around the Citadel does not exclude this possibility. (Although that is made by the Citadel itself)

I just think that the material it's built of, is extraordinary resistant - able to withstand the human technology of warfare. Another citadel could have been hit though, and the conclusion that it did nothing else than kill the remaining human population and polute the area was made. Gotta be at least one nuclear missile fired, somewhere in the world... Else it doesn't fit with my idea of alien invasion :p
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Excuse my stupidity but if a nuke had struck wouldnt it have pretty much obliterated City 17?
 
Surrogate said:
3. Concerning Gordon? I don't know... Maybe the effect of the Dark Matter explosion or implosion sucks Gordon out of the stasis G-Man is about to bring him into - would explain G-Mans anger... Something is beyond G-Mans power, whatever great wizard he is. And i don't assume Gordon will feel that bad about it, since very few would find it that ammusing being a puppet in some unknown persons play.
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Sounds right to me
 
Can you see the 'Reason' as you're staff, or you're just being you?

The Citadels are mostly invincible, but why did someone say "it was on it's side"
now you're just getting me confused.

It will be good to see the rest of the Xen creatures back in the game again.
 
Both. Whoah, non-staff can't see the reason? I didn't know that.
 
Combine communication is a mess, the portal to the combine planet is closed, since Gordon destroyed the portal wich will lead to an explosion in the Dark Energy reactor, when that happens, the Citadel is doomed, so are City 17. Dr.Breen and the remaining Combines are trapped on Earth, fighting to the end. Probably desperate and with communication that is a mess. My guess is that the Combine will evacuate their troops from the City, or perhaps they will be punished by permanent off-world duty since they can't catch Freeman.
All Combine barricades that stops antlions and other creatures from entering the city is penetrated after the incident at the Citadel, and the mess in the streets below. The city is overrunned by aliens, and human resistance tries to escape and fight off remaining Combines.
 
I think that the Combine are going to try to destroy City 17 with the rebels still there.
 
MTG_Maro said:
I think that the Combine are going to try to destroy City 17 with the rebels still there.
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They wouldn't do that, and whats more, the Citadel is about to wipe out City 17 with it in meltdown an all.
 
Samon said:
Yes, Breen probably did survive. But I don't think he'd help you survive, since he was at the bottom of the reactor and you were at the tip...I mean, you've done so much damage that Breen may not even consider being allies with you.
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Like he ever did.
 
On the one hand, it'd make sense dramatically and narratively if he was dead. On the other, he's too cool a villain to be in only one game, and Valve isn't finished with the Combine occupation of Earth by any means...
 
Sulkdodds said:
On the one hand, it'd make sense dramatically and narratively if he was dead. On the other, he's too cool a villain to be in only one game, and Valve isn't finished with the Combine occupation of Earth by any means...
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I'd like for him to be alive. His speaches are so cool. And he is a great villan.
 
The best thing about Breen being a villian is because he thinks what he's doing is right and he saved mankind. And he is at least partialy in the right.
 
ríomhaire said:
The best thing about Breen being a villian is because he thinks what he's doing is right and he saved mankind. And he is at least partialy in the right.
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I never thought that Breen was thinking of mankind. Perhaps at first, yes. When he surrendered the Earth he was clrealy thinking of humanity, but overall it was for himself, and it still is. He really doesn't care, his lines reflect this and with him so willing to get off of the Citadel, its clear he just wants to endulge himself in another world and race, bugger humanity.

I think its obvious that Breens been twisted and manipulated by the Combine advisor, its what it does, and its been preying on Breen, turning him over the years. Breens out for himself.
 
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