Can Doctor's be trusted in UK?

[Alig]

Was it just me that didn't know we had Doctors on the sex offenders register? Doctor's that have been jailed for indecency and the GMC only suspend them from work for 6 - 12 months and allow them to come back as a doctor? :flame: WTF is that all about? when i goto the Doctor's i don't want to be talking to someone that could of been jailed for these things!. I want to talk to someone i can trust, someone professional.

Get these,

Doctor1. Gets caught masturbating outside a school, Twice!. Puts an add in the paper for school children/school leavers for a part time cleaning job in his appartment under a false name, has a 15year old school girl come round who lets herself in as he comes out of his bedroom completely naked and says "I like to walk around my house naked". Gets a £800 fine, a caution and suspended for a couple of months, then allowed back to his job as a doctor.

Doctor2. Has his secretary download files to his job PC of kiddie porn who is oblivious to whats in the files. Has pictures of naked children in his office draws, his home PC is full of kiddie porn. Sexually abuses 7 women while doing internal check-up's. He gets caught eventually, gets 5 years in prison (2.5 years), gets put on the sex offenders register for life meaning he could'nt even get a Caretaker job at a school. 5 years later he is allowed to go back to his job as a Doctor working on his own, 1to1 check-ups on children and women behind closed door's.

The GMC head director says you can phone or use the internet to check up on Doctors and whether or not they have had any previous convictions. Both these doctor's are clean according to GMC.

There is seriously something wrong with this country. Doctors are supposed to be people you can trust and feel comfortable around and be able to talk about anything to them. UK is the worst place in the world.

Sorry for ranting, i'm just mad at this.

 

[The Dark Elf]

Meh all doctors around the world are still human beings, same flaws apply.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Private Health/Insurance with companies that won't hire SOB's like that > Socialism/Taxation with government handled allowances for offenders.

 

[kingthebadger]

haha, and my little brother got sent down 18 months for kicking someones ass, omfg ..

 

[h00dlum]

Its seems very common that rich and powerfull people have very sick fetishes..

 

[Burn]

As much as sex offenders suck. Unless they ask you to take your clothes off, you should'nt let it bother you. Remember x-cons or x-sex offenders can change. Or whatever.

Dont remove your pants.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

As much as sex offenders suck. Unless they ask you to take your clothes off, you should'nt let it bother you. Remember x-cons or x-sex offenders can change. Or whatever.

Dont remove your pants.

Good advice...last time I removed my pants at the doctors, they called the police.

But I was there for a cough.

Its seems very common that rich and powerfull people have very sick fetishes..

"Seems" being the operative word. It may look that way, but most rich and "powerful" people, you never actually hear about. Its only when they do something "sick" that someone takes notice of them. Besides, doctors in this country are not particually rich, and nowadays not so powerful.

 

[Burn]

Last time I removed my clothes for a doc was ages ago when I was ab out 12 or so I guess, I was really sick (turned out I needed an operation) and he needed me to lift my shirt abit and pull my skirt down enough for him to get to my tummy.

Now that i think about it...... :S Shit.

 

[DoctorGordon3]

Meh all doctors around the world are still human beings, same flaws apply.

Thats no excuse.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Thats no excuse.

Its no excuse, but its a valid reason.

 

[Ikerous]

Trust the doctors? You cant trust anyone in the UK!
I mean, for God's sake, they call cookies biscuits. Wtf?

 

[oldagerocker]

Trust the doctors? You cant trust anyone in the UK!
I mean, for God's sake, they call cookies biscuits. Wtf?

Watch it Ikerous, we might start spelling differently too, then you're in trouble.
You get dodgy Doctors, you get dodgy road sweepers, you get dodgy teachers, dodgy footballers, dodgy estate agents etc... the diffference is that Doctors are in a complete position of trust and when they abuse that trust, they should be completely struck off and criminal proceedings should incur. I think the GMC are being alittle more linient is because there is a shortage of Doctors, but even if they get struck off here, they can always work abroad in other countries afaik, and carry on with their crime, atleast keeping them here will mean they have some control over them and they can be monitored.

 

[Alig]

Meh all doctors around the world are still human beings, same flaws apply.

Thats not my point on the matter. Think about the situations you can be in with a Doctor for a second.

As much as sex offenders suck. Unless they ask you to take your clothes off, you should'nt let it bother you. Remember x-cons or x-sex offenders can change. Or whatever.

Dont remove your pants.

I've got a 3 year old sister so there's always gunna be a worry about 'that guy' over there. I would'nt want to be in the same town as a paedophile or ex ones for that matter. People don't change after they've grown up...there becomes a stage in life when you stop altering the way you go about things and what you think and do. I used to be cocky, eager, backchat anyone, speak my mind, not care if i make someone feel bad, but now i'm 19 and i've grown up i've become polite, lazy, respect people, care about people close to me and not interupt people.

Grown men previously convicted off criminal offenses won't ever change in there life. Particually paedophiles because at the end of the day, its a 'fetish' to them, so to speak and we all have at least one fetish that we'll probably have for the rest of our lifes.

Trust the doctors? You cant trust anyone in the UK!
I mean, for God's sake, they call cookies biscuits. Wtf?

Eh! We made the language man Your the weirdo's calling crisps "chips" and chips "fries".

Watch it Ikerous, we might start spelling differently too, then you're in trouble. You get dodgy Doctors, you get dodgy road sweepers, you get dodgy teachers, dodgy footballers, dodgy estate agents etc... the diffference is that Doctors are in a complete position of trust and when they abuse that trust, they should be completely struck off and criminal proceedings should incur. I think the GMC are being alittle more linient is because there is a shortage of Doctors, but even if they get struck off here, they can always work abroad in other countries afaik, and carry on with their crime, atleast keeping them here will mean they have some control over them and they can be monitored.

Finally, someone saw the issue.

 

[<RJMC>]

omg thats looks serious

uk goverment should take extreme ways

 

[mortiz]

Private Health/Insurance with companies that won't hire SOB's like that > Socialism/Taxation with government handled allowances for offenders.

There are major disadvantages to that system aswell. There are far more people in the U.S. without Medical insurance who should something happen to them wouldn't be able to afford proper medical care than there are perverted doctors in the U.K.

Personally a government funded health system sounds better to me, and if I can afford it and do want to go private, well I have that choice as well.

The only problem I can see with the NHS is the volume of patients that they have to treat so they can't really afford to throw away doctors, some waiting lists are also pretty bad. We need more good doctors dammit!!!!!!!!

 

[Fat Tony!]

Meh I really dont give a shit most doctors are fine and even those who are not dont do much there a crack head in every job get used to it. After all the number of doctors who are like this is probably about 1 in 100,000. They are very rare indeed. GPs are great, its nice to talk to a doctor.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Meh I really dont give a shit most doctors are fine and even those who are not dont do much there a crack head in every job get used to it. After all the number of doctors who are like this is probably about 1 in 100,000. They are very rare indeed. GPs are great, its nice to talk to a doctor.

Well...if you can understand him. My doctor is Indian, and he has a very strong accent. I've had to ask him to repeat what he said a few times. Hes competant though, which at the end of the day is what really matters.


The NHS really needs a shake up though. A good example of a potential disaster is with my dad. He get an infection shortly before we went on holiday, which is where it manifested itself. After the first day my dad started getting really ill and so on about the third day after we decided it wasn't simply the flu or something of the like (my uncle, who has been to many exotic places had an idea right from the start that it was something different) we took him to the doctor. We were in France by the way. The doctor quickly diagnosed my dad and gave him some medication, and not just your average antibiotic (which we later found out would have been ineffective), it was pretty powerful stuff. Also after giving him the medicine, they sent off results from the tests my dad underwent to the lab to confirm what the doctor suspected. We got the information back after 2 days. The doctor advised us to give the same test results to a doctor in the UK so they could analyse the data and tell us what we needed to do.
The lab over here said we would have to wait a week. After a week passed, we found out they had lost the data and it was another 5 days before we finaly got it back. My dad told us a few days later that the doctor in France had told him that if he hadn't seen the doctor, he would have been dead within less than 48 hours, and there was basically no two ways about it. If we had seena doctor in the UK, he would have at most given the low level, cheaper drug until the test results got back...of course, in the time it would have taken (Minimum a week) my dad would have died. We of course paid for the more expensive drug we got in France, which is why I suspect we were given it so readily.

 

[Fat Tony!]

Yeah but its a free health service, you cant expect quality for nothing. Its people who go into doctors for coughs or when they cut themselves that waste the money. Oh and the elderly, the UK has become more and more of a dependent population the working vs non working ratio is starting to look worrying now. But id rather have it like this then have to pay for it like In the U.S

 

[Lemonking]

they call French fries CHIPS thats sick...

 

[Fat Tony!]

they call French fries CHIPS thats sick...

noo we made the language first your sick

 

[ComradeBadger]

I don't trust Docters period. Any medical professional in fact. But that's just me

 

[Burn]

I don't trust Docters period. Any medical professional in fact. But that's just me

...And thats why Badger will die young. XD

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Yeah but its a free health service, you cant expect quality for nothing. Its people who go into doctors for coughs or when they cut themselves that waste the money. Oh and the elderly, the UK has become more and more of a dependent population the working vs non working ratio is starting to look worrying now. But id rather have it like this then have to pay for it like In the U.S

Its not free though is it, its paid for in tax.

they call French fries CHIPS thats sick...

Chips are not french fries.

 

[Fat Tony!]

Its not free though is it, its paid for in tax

Yeah obviously, however you pay a lot less with the national health care then going private.

 

[Steve]

Chips are not french fries.

Ummm...arruuuu? What are chips, if not lengthwise sliced potatoes cooked in oil?

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Ummm...arruuuu? What are chips, if not lengthwise sliced potatoes cooked in oil?

French fries here are long and thin...chips are not. However, that doesn't mean french fries aren't chips

 

[Fat Tony!]

Farrow is stupid of course french fries are chips

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Farrow is stupid of course french fries are chips

That wasn't very kind of you to say was it...especially so soon after my last post.

 

[ComradeBadger]

...And thats why Badger will die young. XD

Meanie ;(

 

[oldagerocker]

Our NHS does have problems, like Farrows up there... but it's getting slowly better than a few years back and i believe a free Medical service paid for out of everyones taxes is a good thing, only how the money is spent... why should i pay for NHS Smoking helpline? when i dont smoke.
But im sure someday when i need an expensive drug or treatment, all them peoples taxes that i helped get off smoking will pay for my treatment.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

I think its a dispicable thing.


But its by far in the minority.



Also.... bad people everywhere. Allways have been... allways will be. Fact of life really. Unfortunatly...

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Yeah I don't see a problem with the smoking help line in the long run. I also quite like the idea of not treating patients without extra payment for illness they caused themselves. Such as smokers.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Yeah I don't see a problem with the smoking help line in the long run. I also quite like the idea of not treating patients without extra payment for illness they caused themselves. Such as smokers.

I allways thought it was wrong for us to pay for treatment to patients that have their problems due to smoking or hard drugs or what have you..

But it would be immoral to just turn them away....

:rolling:

 

[Alig]

Meh I really dont give a shit most doctors are fine and even those who are not dont do much there a crack head in every job get used to it. After all the number of doctors who are like this is probably about 1 in 100,000. They are very rare indeed. GPs are great, its nice to talk to a doctor.

So lets say you was a girl, 20 years old and went to see your doctor for a private matter concerning sex and how it is un-comfortable for you. You'd be willing to talk to a doctor that has been banged up for having pictures of naked children in his draw, right next to where your sat down, or has sexually abused teenagers...i'm quite sure you would'nt want to talk to a doctor convicted of them things.

Anyway, my point isn't what doctor's do to get off. My point is doctor's that have done them things should'nt ever be allowed to ****ing work as a doctor, regardless of how short staffed our NHS is...they are ****ing pervert's and paedophiles and should be on death row (which should be introduced, AGAIN in UK), not on the proffesional side of a desk in your local doctor's. :angry:

@The smoking thing. I'm a smoker, so kiss my arse I pay just as much as you do for the NHS, your no better than i am because you don't smoke. Not to mention the government don't exactly do anything to help people stop smoking, no, instead they put 20 cigs to £5, so they can't start treating smokers differently, if it was'nt partly for smokers you would'nt have a road outside your house, or a pavement, or a street lamp. Anyway i smoke duty free cigs so i don't give a shit about UK prices of cigs...its just as conning as petrol is.

You also can't start treating drug addicts as something lower than you when it comes to health because most drug addicts do drugs because they get depressed and the UK government, again, won't pay money to help them give up drugs...i know from smoking you can't just give up an addiction at the click of a finger, and no...I DON'T DO DRUGS either!.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

I allways thought it was wrong for us to pay for treatment to patients that have their problems due to smoking or hard drugs or what have you..

But it would be immoral to just turn them away....

:rolling:

Its not turning them away though, its just making them pay more. Its not punishment, its just the consequences of their actions which they should have realised when they put the ciggarette in their mouth(Or whatever). If a person wants to smoke...fine, just don't make me pay for it by smoking near me, or using my tax.

Alig, carry on smoking and you won't be laughing....No really, its hard to laugh without lungs.

 

[Alig]

Its not turning them away though, its just making them pay more. Its not punishment, its just the consequences of their actions which they should have realised when they put the ciggarette in their mouth(Or whatever). If a person wants to smoke...fine, just don't make me pay for it by smoking near me, or using my tax.

Heh, Do you drink?

Answer's probably yes, so why exactly should i be paying for you to damage your health? and you not me?. Do you drive? why should i pay for the roads you drive on or anyone elses for that matter?. There are alot of things i don't/can't do, yet every month something like %17 of my wage is taken AWAY from me to pay for these things i don't do. Stop being so smug.

Alig, carry on smoking and you won't be laughing....No really, its hard to laugh without lungs.

Same could be said about you when you get old, and you can't walk because your incapable of walking, or take a piss because you might fall over, or have a bath because you might drown on your own. I went round my Great-Gran's for 10 years from 75 to 85 every other week who never smoked, was healthy and yet, still could'nt do anything except sit and watch TV.

At least when i die. I'll die a painful death but upto my death i'll be capable of holding my own.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Its not turning them away though, its just making them pay more. Its not punishment, its just the consequences of their actions which they should have realised when they put the ciggarette in their mouth(Or whatever). If a person wants to smoke...fine, just don't make me pay for it by smoking near me, or using my tax.

Alig, carry on smoking and you won't be laughing....No really, its hard to laugh without lungs.

Yeah but most people that smoke are in the lower income brackets. They might not be able to pay...



Meh, I live in the Northeast and pretty soon they are going to bad smoking in public places. I'm gona have so much fun enforceing that.

/me imagines walking up to chavs and calmly asking them to leave.... bahahah *hillarious consequences ensue*

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Heh, Do you drink?

Answer's probably yes, so why exactly should i be paying for you to damage your health? and you not me?. Do you drive? why should i pay for the roads you drive on or anyone elses for that matter?. There are alot of things i don't/can't do, yet every month something like %17 of my wage is taken AWAY from me to pay for these things i don't do. Stop being so smug.

I do drink...but the amount I drink is not unhealthy. Your comment about the road is really quite invalid, simply because you aren't paying for the damage people are causing to themselves. Roads are there for people to use, they are part of the infastructure of this country. The idea of making people such as smokers either pay more or quite before seeing a doctor for treatment is to save us all money. You've got to see the difference between tax being used to help us run our lives, and tax being used to carry people through life.

I do drink...but the amount I drink is not unhealthy. Your comment about the road is really quite invalid, simply because you aren't paying for the damage people are causing to themselves. Roads are there for people to use, they are part of the infastructure of this country. The idea of making people such as smokers either pay more or quite before seeing a doctor for treatment is to save us all money. You've got to see the difference between tax being used to help us run our lives, and tax being used to carry people through life.

Same could be said about you when you get old, and you can't walk because your incapable of walking, or take a piss because you might fall over, or have a bath because you might drown on your own. I went round my Great-Gran's for 10 years from 75 to 85 every other week who never smoked, was healthy and yet, still could'nt do anything except sit and watch TV.

At least when i die. I'll die a painful death but upto my death i'll be capable of holding my own.

Actually, the way I live I doubt that. Besides, that is due to age and not due to something I have chosen to do which I know harms my body.

Yeah but most people that smoke are in the lower income brackets. They might not be able to pay...

Consider the amount of money spent on cigs...

 

[Alig]

Yeah but most people that smoke are in the lower income brackets. They might not be able to pay...



Meh, I live in the Northeast and pretty soon they are going to bad smoking in public places. I'm gona have so much fun enforceing that.

/me imagines walking up to chavs and calmly asking them to leave.... bahahah *hillarious consequences ensue*

They'll probably dock it out in your eye . I'd love to see you asking smokers to stop smoking. Ever seen what happens to people when they are deprived of something they actually need?

I do drink...but the amount I drink is not unhealthy. Your comment about the road is really quite invalid, simply because you aren't paying for the damage people are causing to themselves. Roads are there for people to use, they are part of the infastructure of this country. The idea of making people such as smokers either pay more or quite before seeing a doctor for treatment is to save us all money. You've got to see the difference between tax being used to help us run our lives, and tax being used to carry people through life.

So you drink. Drinking twice a week is more than enough to damage your kidneys in the long run. Give me one reason, just one, why you should pay less NI because you don't smoke.

At the ammount of people that smoke in UK, i'd argue that if no one smoked, this country would be selling petrol at £15 a gallon, a loaf of bread at £3.50, a pint of milk at £1.50. You pay what? £70 NI a month earning about £1200 a month.

Before you start becoming 'snobby' about where your NI goes, i'd be more bothered about my tax/NI going to immigrants lifes/health and unemployed people who just bum out every day.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

They'll probably dock it out in your eye . I'd love to see you asking smokers to stop smoking. Ever seen what happens to people when they are deprived of something they actually need?

You don't know how much of an angry person I am at the moment! :thumbs: